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kitsunedawn

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Aug 17, 2017
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all these highroaders on a pirate forum for porn games

im dead

Honestly, the majority of developers don't really see this, from those I've spoken with, as well as those who are members here, as a "pirate forum". That doesn't mean there aren't those who classify it as such, but honestly about 80 percent of the developers out there don't really see it that way. Rather, they see it as advertisement. One of the more frustrating thing about Sex type games, is actually finding them. Patreon historically makes searching for any game difficult, and if you don't really know the exact set of key words that you need to input into whatever search engine you want; you're never going to find anything.

This site does something that Patreon doesn't allow, and while itch.io does, it's a heck of a lot easier and in some cases cheaper to use. As to what it does, the site compiles most every single game that's being produced at any given time, and it puts them in a place where a user can quickly poke through, showing every change the developer has made, every update, and gives some information about the game as well as links to that developer's pateron, or whatever "payment" site they use. So if a user wants to pay for a title's development, they can choose to do so.

Based soley off that, the site is less a pirate forum, as you assume, and more a repository. A place where games can be tried, inspected, and if a person wants to continue down the rabbit hole of the developer's site, they have the option to do so. It is not, however, a true pirate forum. Sure, it may have started as one, but things change, they evolve; and sadly, based purely off of some key differences with other 'pirate' sites... this doesn't fit that standard.

So what are the differences?

The most important is how every game here has some form of attribution to the developer. Where possible, there's a link to that developer's patreon, or sometimes multiple links to the various payment systems they use. True pirate sites don't care about the developers, and thus they don't link back to who produced whatever game is on offer, allowing users to pay for it if they wish.

The second most important difference is the simple fact that a large number of the developers are actively present here, and are active members of this community. While that does happen at some other sites, typically those are "take it down or we'll sue you" type of interactions. Not like here were the majority are the developers listening to the bugs, or errors people have found, and working to better a game. Even though the people here haven't paid whatever monthly fee the patreon users have.

The last major difference, is the lack of virus content injected into the games being offered. I know that sounds like I'm over-reacting, but the fact remains that with true "pirate" sites, somewhere around 50 to 60 percent of the games will contain a virus. Sometimes this is a false positive due to how cracks and such work. However some of those are actual malicious viruses being injected into users computers in an effort to steal information, steal passwords, or do general damage. The last point coming from developers themselves who seek to punish the people downloading their game. What better way to sour a person from stealing the game, than to make them suspect the site they stole it from damaged their computer?

In the end, while you have two camps here, one arguing "pirate site" as you did and others aruging something else... The fact remains that neither is right, and yet, neither is wrong. This place is something more than a piracy forum, but by the same token it's something less than a full on advertisement site. It falls into this gray area in this regard. Hence my classification of a "Repository". It's little better than a better implemented version of itch.io, with some piracy tendencies.
 

kitsunedawn

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No shade to Aroma Sensei, but one flaw I noticed about her artwork is same face syndrome. I like her work, but nearly all her female faces look the same with a different mask of makeup and features like piercings or freckles.
Yeah. I have seen artists that do that. It's like they find one style, and go "I'll make this everything."
 
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tastefultoy

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Honestly, the majority of developers don't really see this, from those I've spoken with, as well as those who are members here, as a "pirate forum". That doesn't mean there aren't those who classify it as such, but honestly about 80 percent of the developers out there don't really see it that way. Rather, they see it as advertisement. One of the more frustrating thing about Sex type games, is actually finding them. Patreon historically makes searching for any game difficult, and if you don't really know the exact set of key words that you need to input into whatever search engine you want; you're never going to find anything.

This site does something that Patreon doesn't allow, and while itch.io does, it's a heck of a lot easier and in some cases cheaper to use. As to what it does, the site compiles most every single game that's being produced at any given time, and it puts them in a place where a user can quickly poke through, showing every change the developer has made, every update, and gives some information about the game as well as links to that developer's pateron, or whatever "payment" site they use. So if a user wants to pay for a title's development, they can choose to do so.

Based soley off that, the site is less a pirate forum, as you assume, and more a repository. A place where games can be tried, inspected, and if a person wants to continue down the rabbit hole of the developer's site, they have the option to do so. It is not, however, a true pirate forum. Sure, it may have started as one, but things change, they evolve; and sadly, based purely off of some key differences with other 'pirate' sites... this doesn't fit that standard.

So what are the differences?

The most important is how every game here has some form of attribution to the developer. Where possible, there's a link to that developer's patreon, or sometimes multiple links to the various payment systems they use. True pirate sites don't care about the developers, and thus they don't link back to who produced whatever game is on offer, allowing users to pay for it if they wish.

The second most important difference is the simple fact that a large number of the developers are actively present here, and are active members of this community. While that does happen at some other sites, typically those are "take it down or we'll sue you" type of interactions. Not like here were the majority are the developers listening to the bugs, or errors people have found, and working to better a game. Even though the people here haven't paid whatever monthly fee the patreon users have.

The last major difference, is the lack of virus content injected into the games being offered. I know that sounds like I'm over-reacting, but the fact remains that with true "pirate" sites, somewhere around 50 to 60 percent of the games will contain a virus. Sometimes this is a false positive due to how cracks and such work. However some of those are actual malicious viruses being injected into users computers in an effort to steal information, steal passwords, or do general damage. The last point coming from developers themselves who seek to punish the people downloading their game. What better way to sour a person from stealing the game, than to make them suspect the site they stole it from damaged their computer?

In the end, while you have two camps here, one arguing "pirate site" as you did and others aruging something else... The fact remains that neither is right, and yet, neither is wrong. This place is something more than a piracy forum, but by the same token it's something less than a full on advertisement site. It falls into this gray area in this regard. Hence my classification of a "Repository". It's little better than a better implemented version of itch.io, with some piracy tendencies.
A repository...
... of games that people get for free instead of paying for them.
Yeah, that's just a cute name for a pirate website.

There's a very valid discussion to be had about the value of piracy. About whether it hurts or helps the developer and in which cases it does each of these. I myself have bought and helped fund games that I wouldn't have discovered if not for this website. But there can be no discussion about whether a forum that mainly contains pirated software is or isn't a pirate forum. Any attempt to make it sound like something other than it is... Is just exactly that.
 
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A repository...
... of games that people get for free instead of paying for them.
Yeah, that's just a cute name for a pirate website.

There's a very valid discussion to be had about the value of piracy. About whether it hurts or helps the developer and in which cases it does each of these. I myself have bought and helped fund games that I wouldn't have discovered if not for this website. But there can be no discussion about whether a forum that mainly contains pirated software is or isn't a pirate forum. Any attempt to make it sound like something other than it is... Is just exactly that.
He/She just used a word to emphazise the difference between this site and regular piracy sites. It was claimed in the whole posting that this is still a piracy site, but with other intention than the regular ones you will find. I think it's a valid point to search for differentation.

I mainly download the content here for free, but in some cases i invested my money into some development of games just because i was rooted to the patreon page of the developer. I came from real piracy sites where I never backed someone just because i was too lazy to search for the developer or there was no hint of them in the description. So I have to say thats this piracy site here is not the regular one you will find in the Internet.

Just call it piracy with benefits if you want. ;)
 
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Sneak Monkey

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Fuck me... Shut the fuck up you lot.
Really promising game here with beautiful art by aroma sensei, I wanted to see where it was going, it's only a couple of stages into development and already it's artistically more interesting than most games here.
But you all had to go and be twats about something you hadn't actually bothered to check up on and berate someone for making a game and sharing it for free... Have you personally asked aroma sensei if her work was being used without her permission? Presumption really is a killer of all things good, jumping the gun like everyone has done has completely halted creativity and put a stop to someone making something to share, for free... Free you fucknuts.

I'm sad to see you've had to stop and aroma has pulled out, shame as it looked fun and like it could go somewhere. Try not to take it to heart, people tend to overreact for no reason sometimes, it happens.
 

psvan

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Dec 23, 2019
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I'm quite curious why this is getting backing on patreon. The game will be exactly as it was on the first release. They already used all of aromasenseis "frozen" art. What else are people hopping for them to add..

Unless... they kept stealing the rest of her art, oh no they wouldn't.
 

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Ortus
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Aroma sensei is a moron. Makes fanart of copyrighted characters but is upset people use their art for other works? Wow
The amount work you put into transforming the source material matters morally.

Had she just used screenshots of frozen without editing them to make a game that would be kind of on the same level of this.

Also who you are "attacking" matters. Using characters from a souless billion dollar company that exploits people, for a much smaller piece of work, is not the same as ripping art from a single artists who's income depends on it and profiting on it.
 

Nazeaj

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So where is the english language? I only see an american flag :eek:

I'm kidding, nice game I like it but very short and fast
 
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Lil Caster

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Uh, I get that it's pirated and all but doesn't that also apply to some of the HTML games from porn videos?

I don't think I see the Difference but hey it would be nice to put credit to the one who made the Art.