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Others Complete [Translation Request] Self Defense Dojo Secret NTR Lesson 護身術道場 秘密のNTRレッスン[RJ01053661]

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Time-limited game with all the main features build on RNG, and on top of that with autosave. That's just awful, more difficult than any darksouls games xD
Well, judging from the dev's blog - they are fixing a lot and lot of stuff in there now, already added manual saves and toggle for auto-save, made fixes for economy and lvlup patterns, etc. Though as i get from the description - they weren't even starting to fix the problematic stuff of rng and balance, for now they are fixing a lot of broken things, among which the more you upgrade chars - the slower related bar fills, as there was error in formula, ending broken and not triggering correctly, area fights are too difficult and ither stuff. I for myself would rather wait till more or less stable version than suffering through this game right now. Though not really much to see, comparing to the 1st game. It feels like it has much less content.
 
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Aruetor said:
Time-limited game with all the main features build on RNG, and on top of that with autosave. That's just awful, more difficult than any darksouls games xD
Well, judging from the dev's blog - they are fixing a lot and lot of stuff in there now, already added manual saves and toggle for auto-save, made fixes for economy and lvlup patterns, etc. Though as i get from the description - they weren't even starting to fix the problematic stuff of rng and balance, for now they are fixing a lot of broken things, among which the more you upgrade chars - the slower related bar fills, as there was error in formula, ending broken and not triggering correctly, area fights are too difficult and ither stuff. I for myself would rather wait till more or less stable version than suffering through this game right now. Though not really much to see, comparing to the 1st game. It feels like it has much less content.
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It has way more content if you're playing for the scenes. It has less CG scenes (which I usually don't like anyway) and way more sprite animation. The massage is equal for all heroines with them with and without towel/underwear depending how excited they are. Sex every heroine has 4 poses in the massage house, and 3 in threesomes, which is around 22 sprite animations just in the massage house. Sadly the Kimono girl doesn't take part in the massage house. In the bar each heroine has around 3-4 (don't remember correctly) sex scenes, with a total of 37 - 42 sprite scenes.
The heroines have more personality too. First game only had 2 heroines + the extra DLC which was kinda not as good. I think this is a step up, animation quality is good, I really like the art. Just the gameplay can be annoying. With the autosave you can save scum anyway, if you close the window before a defeat or being too drunk you can just reload and play from the start of the day. The massage management is the worst part IMO. Takes too long and to unlock the item that enables you to speed up takes too long too.
 
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Aruetor

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bingalinga said:
It has way more content if you're playing for the scenes. It has less CG scenes (which I usually don't like anyway) and way more sprite animation. The massage is equal for all heroines with them with and without towel/underwear depending how excited they are. Sex every heroine has 4 poses in the massage house, and 3 in threesomes, which is around 22 sprite animations just in the massage house. Sadly the Kimono girl doesn't take part in the massage house. In the bar each heroine has around 3-4 (don't remember correctly) sex scenes, with a total of 37 - 42 sprite scenes.
The heroines have more personality too. First game only had 2 heroines + the extra DLC which was kinda not as good. I think this is a step up, animation quality is good, I really like the art. Just the gameplay can be annoying. With the autosave you can save scum anyway, if you close the window before a defeat or being too drunk you can just reload and play from the start of the day. The massage management is the worst part IMO. Takes too long and to unlock the item that enables you to speed up takes too long too.
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I'm talking about balancing overall. Ping-pong fights - have few maps variants for each area which are selected randomly, and have either bunch of normal enemies, or more enemies and boss, or horde of enemies, additional obstacles and 2 bosses. With how the maps built - often you need to travel through the whole map to get to another corner where all the enemies are, and hope you wont hit anything and ricochet back. Your ally icons become unmovable obstacles on the map too, so why you struggle to deal with the enemies asap because of the turns counter - they hit you from anywhere on the map.
Drinking in the bar - also total random in those minigames. MC starts with stamina ~50 and each drink fills it for 25-30 in general, while girls somehow having 110-130 stamina in general and filling ~15 from a glass. so it's making them drink 8-9 times with you drinking no more than 2.
Stats lvlup has the same pricing for MC and all the workers and raises to absurd 100k per lesson, that still gives random number from +1 to +7 instead of 1+ to +3.
And if compare to the 1st game, at least there was a city and some diffirent activities, variety like dojo, cinema, houses. even the 'training' animations themself already were hot, while here it's just a massage... as for animations there were like what? master's room, courtyard, player's room, guests room, toilet, shower. Each (except of the guest room) had 2 sets of events for each girl, with 3-4 poses per event, 3x3 animations for girls in cinema, additional in the houses during the day and night. But yeah, it's not about number, it's more about the variety i guess, this time it's just all the same in the same setting. But we'll see after the whole fixes and maybe DLCs, how it will look in the end.
Because for now savescum tactic being possible as to just clear the game - is not a justification. It's not how it was meant to be played.
 
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" It's not how it was meant to be played. "
Bro any game is meant to be played the way you can play it this idea of you should play how the designers intended is always a dumb excuse. Play however you have more fun or achieve what you want to achieve.
And I think everyone agree its grindy and bad but it's the dude second game. It's a way more complex game than the last one, so only fair to not be perfect. He updated the last one for a while so we should expect the same for this one.
 
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1. Earn money to unlock more rooms and beds idk what trigger this you will have an option to auto and fast the shop my theory is unlocking rooms and bed
2.only use the combat training to the mc because in mission usually u can only use girl and mc
3. At Least 100% 2 area then grind customer and hire all available employees
4.date are simple except miki bcuz other you can just random select convo whick is require to increase willingness to drink together, for rock-paper-scissor use paper then rock win 2 time this usually do it to H-scene and hardest mission for me was enon(gang lady) mission
 
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Tải cái này về giải ném xong bỏ nó vô thư mục game
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xong tời phần "BepInEx\config\AutoTranslatorConfig.ini" sửa "Language=en" thành "Language=vi"
Vào game nó đợi nó một lát thì nó sẽ tự dịch, nhưng mà nó bị lỗi font
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cho mình xin lại link tải được không vì không theo dõi nhóm nên link chết rồi nên mình không tải kịp
 
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bingalinga said:
" It's not how it was meant to be played. "
Bro any game is meant to be played the way you can play it this idea of you should play how the designers intended is always a dumb excuse. Play however you have more fun or achieve what you want to achieve.
And I think everyone agree its grindy and bad but it's the dude second game. It's a way more complex game than the last one, so only fair to not be perfect. He updated the last one for a while so we should expect the same for this one.
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I sure hope so, and he's fixing it now, mentioning those same paiful parts being not balanced or simply broken/bugged. Also i think he mentioned that later on would start to work on dlc and some updates/fixes to the 1st game.
I also hope for additional work on the 1st game, like there is eng translation, but not UI adapted so it looks terrible most of the time, part of content isn't working at all or working incorrectly. I'm not saying the game is bad because it's bad or i want to see it like that at all. On the contrary, it needs some more work to shine, and after the 1st game i probably had high enough expectations for this one ;D
 
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Aruetor said:
I sure hope so, and he's fixing it now, mentioning those same paiful parts being not balanced or simply broken/bugged. Also i think he mentioned that later on would start to work on dlc and some updates/fixes to the 1st game.
I also hope for additional work on the 1st game, like there is eng translation, but not UI adapted so it looks terrible most of the time, part of content isn't working at all or working incorrectly. I'm not saying the game is bad because it's bad or i want to see it like that at all. On the contrary, it needs some more work to shine, and after the 1st game i probably had high enough expectations for this one ;D
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I managed to finish the game fully without knowing a single japanese kanji. You can finish it, if it's entertaining it's another question entirely. He should fix the gallery mode and of course improve gameplay. I can see this being updating for some time since it sold well enough (based on reviews).

It seems he added skip to training anims, which is great, that stuff was slow as hell.
New Game + and some extra anims.
 
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bingalinga said:
I managed to finish the game fully without knowing a single japanese kanji. You can finish it, if it's entertaining it's another question entirely. He should fix the gallery mode and of course improve gameplay. I can see this being updating for some time since it sold well enough (based on reviews).

It seems he added skip to training anims, which is great, that stuff was slow as hell.
New Game + and some extra anims.
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Yeah, me too. I expected a bit more from endings though, and he's adding skip function for intro, he should do the same for the ending. It took so much time for the last day, then fighting stage, then that unskippable ending, then i pick which one, and basically nothing happens. i tried 4 different variants and what a bummer :D
Though now i think if there is a different ending entirely if you don't do anything with the girl - owner of a massage parlor? or if you kick that boss' ass in all the areas(because he's presen in all of them, as the last enemy in the list, with "?" icon) before the end of the game?
 
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