dopplerprox

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Hi guys
What does download image pack do? I did not notice any change?

Also I found the Shark eye transformation give a flat 2 reflex, super cheap and spamable.
you can use the target-able catnip to change the eyes and re use shark bite for more eye transformation.
 
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Belphegor007

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I want to see what has changed since I played a couple years ago and want to try kineticist, but I heard it's pretty bad and damage falls off fast so should I even bother.
 

looseylucy

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It can also just be hereditary.
Wish him the best... and I hope AI art and writing improve enough so this game can be completed within 20 years.
What? AI art and writing has surpassed the level needed for this kind of stuff years ago (just prohibitively expensive). I think when people here think of AI, they think of the average MTL used on this site still running on GPT3..
 

Candy1970

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Damn is there a nerf for the pirate base every thing there is like dead game over ...... I am at lvl 11 should i be higher before attempting it or what ?? I beat the overseer just barely ......then before i could even recharge my shield i am in another battle ...defeated ........got to start the spacewalk and some stupid drone wastes me .......game over

so the mining sentries KILL YOU .........the drones KILL YOU lose to the psycho bitch enough times and game over ......
FRUSTRATING ..........
 
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DipYourFingersOnMyAss

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did someone have the latest image pack?
for some reason my game wont fucking download the image pack its always stuck at 10/4268
i already deleting the roaming image pack and it still wont work
 
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Yes, Kineticist is the worst class in the game for sure.

Merc have cleave, which work really well stun baton, savicite light maul, and lava hammer. Allow you to keep stunning even multiple enemies, savicite light maul with cleave allow you to spread lust damage to every lust effected enemies every turns while potentially stunning them. And sturm and drang works really well with heavy lust ray, stunning enemies while shooting lust damage which can crits. It's very easy to win this game, even late game with these builts.

Smuggler, I would argue, the best class in the game. It has stealth field generator to allow you keep dodging, can keep dodging with jumper jumpsuit, but the thing that makes smuggler the best in the game is sneak attack and aimed shot. Again, it's work really well with stun baton, savicite light maul, and lava hammer. If you want to play as ranged smuggler with this strat, you will have to use shock bow, which is pretty weak, but aimed shot makes it works even in late game. You can just keep spamming stealth field generator/flash grenade and basic attack and win at late game. And twist the knife makes it even easier and they give it assassination now. I find playing as smuggler is the easiest. I don't have to think or keep trying. Even the newest boss in the train was so easy with smuggler, a complete joke.

Next is the tech specialist, I feel like at early and mid game, it's more about defensive job, but late game, it got overclock, which work very well with stun baton, savicite light maul, and lava hammer. Basically attack thrice with high stun potential, with a very thicc shield, I like using the thicc shield with salamender defense system, which cause very high damage if your shield point gone to zero. The deployable turret is also very good, it's the only skill that allow you to summon a companion. Basically you get two very strong options at level 11. There's also the attack drone built, which allow you to use the electric tamwolf or the fire drone you get from uveto lab. Very solid job. And molten shot nukes your enemy while leaving burn status. I saw many people said it's the best job but I think smuggler is still better due to the stun baton, savicite light maul, and lava hammer/sneak attack/twist the knife/assassination combo.

And last and the least.... We have Kineticist... The worst job in the game... This class is so bad that it's the only job I have difficulty of beating Hureya with... This job is a combo job. Basically there's two builds in this game, which both are bad... First one is magic build, which rely on combo. Basically you want to freeze your opponent, use mind crush to break the ice to deal additional damage and stun them, and then use acid cloud to crits and then use gravity flux to trip your opponent and geometrical spike to crits. It takes a lot of energies and the status effects might not hit, so the combo can fail easily. The second one is magical fighter, either melee or ranged, and it's still suck because concussive augmentation and haste has turn limits, unlike second attack/second shot, which took turns and energy. And I don't get why Fenoxo make blind immunity or poison cleanse as Kineticist latest skills when the other jobs get assassination, blood frenzy, and molten shot. It was already the weakest job! I only need few turns to beat the ancient bot or the bird at phadea with other classes but it's take so long with Kineticist and if I get unlucky, I might lose because debuff miss. And don't forget grappling opponents as well. Unlike limber, mind trick need a lot of energies, more than static burst.

Unless you like playing as a magician force user or role playing as a character. I don't recommend playing as Kineticist.
 
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Alterism

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It's not really all that bad. The really really early game is rough due to how little you have access to. Frankly the early early game sucks.
A lot.
I hate it.
Until you get to Tarkus you're down there in the trenches. By late game, Kineticist eventually can waltz about with like 71 intellect and 69 Will and manhandle the entirety of Dhaal.

Even before that, by the mid game, while it may not outscale the other classes in raw damage, it does scale substantially more easily (that is, with less trips to the gym or conversations with Syri) whilst also becoming effectively immortal due to it's tools.

The (probably) hardest part of kineticist is picking the right combination of skills for the build you want to go down. Unlike the other classes, I'd say it's exceptionally easier to just flat out brick your character.

After that it's just getting the right gear.
Kineticist gets 13 minimum defense for free at max level. Those 0 defense pieces in the game that have 5-10 Crit bonus? You can rock them without much drawback.

Crit's especially noteworthy because of how free it makes single fights due to Deep Impact. Each crit stacks the stun debuff. So, you mentioned Hureya. This is after 3 turns.


5 Entire turns of stun. Sundered on top of that. Obviously no enemy can even possibly move let alone survive. It's like a Magma Crusher but with every single weapon instead.
The damage isn't too shabby. If you get a frost crit on a sundered target you're reaching ludicrous heights only kineticists can get (if lucky)


and it's still suck because concussive augmentation and haste has turn limits
The best part about those two is that they don't really use turns. Concussive Augmentation is a free action (so is levitation) and haste attacks as part of the cast.
It costs energy but you have 200 of it. It also has comparatively substantially more on it's regain.
Mercenary can restore half, Tech Specialist restores 33+, Smuggler has IIRC 60-75 +25% (at low health)
Kineticist get's 75% or 150+ (more if you opt to take the accessory that gives 25% additional).

Is it as broken OP as Smuggler and Tech? Nah. But it's not that bad.
 

jfmherokiller

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The best part about those two is that they don't really use turns. Concussive Augmentation is a free action (so is levitation) and haste attacks as part of the cast.
It costs energy but you have 200 of it. It also has comparatively substantially more on it's regain.
Mercenary can restore half, Tech Specialist restores 33+, Smuggler has IIRC 60-75 +25% (at low health)
Kineticist get's 75% or 150+ (more if you opt to take the accessory that gives 25% additional).

Is it as broken OP as Smuggler and Tech? Nah. But it's not that bad.
funfact tech atleast early js conversion could become even more broken because you could merge classes together and be a tech person who throws grenades or pulls out a minigun.
 

Belphegor007

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Been playing kineticist and it fucking sucks.
I don't particularly care if it gets broken later on considering all the other classes are strong from the start with no real noticable drop off.
The biggest side is that for one tits combat is not fun and there is a lot of it.
Designing a class that requires setting up combos and managing a resource is not exactly fun nor engaging in this game.

There is no fun in a high skill ceiling when every other class has a low floor that can kill shit in their sleep.
Every class looks at kineticist and says, "look what they need just to mimic even a fraction of our power."
 
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jfmherokiller

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Been playing kineticist and it fucking sucks.
I don't particularly care if it gets broken later on considering all the other classes are strong from the start with no real noticable drop off.
The biggest side is that for one tits combat is not fun and there is a lot of it.
Designing a class that requires setting up combos and managing a resource is not exactly fun nor engaging in this game.

There is no fun in a high skill ceiling when every other class has a low floor that can kill shit in their sleep.
Every class looks at kineticist and says, "look what they need just to mimic even a fraction of our power."
as more an outsider to the class it seemed like they decided to make kin the darksouls class but didnt make it an engaging darksouls class.
 
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