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DA22

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It's like Milly said this update.

Her mother may have lied but she must have had a reason to do so which is why she may have a thing for her dad but she doesn't trust him.
Yeah but she should at least also suspect her Aunt a bit and have questions for her especially about those reasons. Sometimes it seems people in this game are way to trusting about words from people who have hurt them on purpose and do not look at their actions. What Mary did to Milly is unforgivable mental abuse, that MC might have deserved but not Milly.

Also I still do not think dev has any idea what it means that you get selected for special ops training so you are able to do operations behind enemy lines and may well get into a position where you can have to command the remaining team members due to fatalities or be last man remaining from your team to complete the mission. :p Someone who cannot do those two things would not even be selected.
 

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It's like Milly said this update.

Her mother may have lied but she must have had a reason to do so which is why she may have a thing for her dad but she doesn't trust him.
That reason is Deb. There is a scene when they're all eating together when Milli asks the MC, why is it the MC never tried reaching out to her, when Deb was in constant contact with Marie. Deb shuts that shit down right away, and quickly changes the subject. MC was clearly reaching out trying to track down his daughter, but never could...I think it's because his sister was the key player in making sure the MC never could. I would go a step further and say Marie found out about it, which is why all the secrecy with Bart weeks before her death. Deb fainted when she learned Marie was dead I think, because she realized that moment that it was because of her it happened.
I think Deb is working for or being manipulated by (bad guys name evades me at the moment) the bad guys, her constant undermining, and essentially making sure he always stays just outside the circle of trust with every member of the household. Deb was willed everything at Maries death...nobody thought that was a little weird? Marie's side piece gets everything?? Millie a couple of times seemed to think everything is left to her, but at the start, Bart clearly said it's Deb, not Milli.

Edit: I'm willing to bet that maybe an update or two from now, it will come to light that Deb is the reason for everything happening from the moment the MC was released from prison. She's the mole that's playing puppet master at the behest of the bad guy.
 
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Well Azrayal I firstly have got to say you must have hit it right because of the discussion thread is alight
this discussion thread is the only 'alight' thing about this game... check the dev's patreon

the dev's been working at this game for nearly a year and what he got out of that is 25 patrons, if that is hitting it right i don't really know what failing is.


I fully believe him when he says this is his first game, I think he has some over reaching plot in his mind and end game.
i don't see it like that. there is no way a dev would go on and create such a spineless bitch of a male MC just due to inexperience, i'm positive this dev is just trolling, he clearly ain't keep this game going in this direction for money, cause he's barely making anything, so i guess his real motive is to have a big laugh at the people taking this game seriously.
 

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Yeah but she should at least also suspect her Aunt a bit and have questions for her especially about those reasons. Sometimes it seems people in this game are way to trusting about words from people who have hurt them on purpose and do not look at their actions. What Mary did to Milly is unforgivable mental abuse, that MC might have deserved but not Milly.

Also I still do not think dev has any idea what it means that you get selected for special ops training so you are able to do operations behind enemy lines and may well get into a position where you can have to command the remaining team members due to fatalities or be last man remaining from your team to complete the mission. :p Someone who cannot do those two things would not even be selected.
I have to admit, if the game hadn't made it clear, I would not have picked spec ops as his profession.

I've seen a lot of games/tv shows/books/films about both serving and ex spec ops in both fiction and documentary scenario's and the general theme seems to be the quiet badass that usually ends up with a hot blonde because hot blondes seem to be the go to love interest of the silent brooding types.
 
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Also I still do not think dev has any idea what it means that you get selected for special ops training so you are able to do operations behind enemy lines and may well get into a position where you can have to command the remaining team members due to fatalities or be last man remaining from your team to complete the mission. :p Someone who cannot do those two things would not even be selected.
I agree with you completely about that. I think if the dev didn't make him an ex special forces badass and instead made him a normal guy in some kind of corporate job that got framed and is in over his head that would make way more sense that no one takes him seriously.

It was even worse when you ask Julia why she listened to Deb instead of the MC and she said Deb seemed to mean it. I don't know about anyone else but if an ex-special forces that's protecting me tells me to do something I'm going to do it.
 

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I have to admit, if the game hadn't made it clear, I would not have picked spec ops as his profession.

I've seen a lot of games/tv shows/books/films about both serving and ex spec ops in both fiction and documentary scenario's and the general theme seems to be the quiet badass that usually ends up with a hot blonde because hot blondes seem to be the go to love interest of the silent brooding types.
Yeah and the ability both to follow orders blindly when under fire and the ability to think and not get under fire when not needed and the ability to complete a mission on your own if needed are crucial parts in the selection process. Someone that can only follow orders would be way too big a risk on a mission behind enemy lines.
 
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I agree with you completely about that. I think if the dev didn't make him an ex special forces badass and instead made him a normal guy in some kind of corporate job that got framed and is in over his head that would make way more sense that no one takes him seriously.

It was even worse when you ask Julia why she listened to Deb instead of the MC and she said Deb seemed to mean it. I don't know about anyone else but if an ex-special forces that's protecting me tells me to do something I'm going to do it.
True that last but Saint Deb can bullshit her way through everything, nobody ever questions her, nobody ever uses their brains around her and takes everything she says at face value despite contradicting evidence and information they do have. It is that this game does not have the mind control tag or else you would be sure she was exercising it. :p
 

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It was even worse when you ask Julia why she listened to Deb instead of the MC and she said Deb seemed to mean it. I don't know about anyone else but if an ex-special forces that's protecting me tells me to do something I'm going to do it.
I think that's the point DA22 is trying to make.

No one takes him seriously because he isn't acting like ex special forces.

He keeps talking about Deb undermining him but he's done absolutely nothing to take control. Blaming other people isn't going to make anyone listen to him, no one is going to follow the commands of a whimpering bitch.

Funny thing is, even being ex spec ops he isn't the most dangerous person in the group, Kumiko is.
 
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True that last but Saint Deb can bullshit her way through everything, nobody ever questions her, nobody ever uses their brains around her and takes everything she says at face value despite contradicting evidence and information they do have. It is that this game does not have the mind control tag or else you would be sure she was exercising it. :p
Also the fact that every woman that sees her gets dripping wet and want to fuck her immediately but I suppose that can be said for every MC in a porn game when they want to build their harem. I can't wait til we save Astrid and she instantly falls in love with Deb and joins her harem. :Kappa:
 

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I think that's the point DA22 is trying to make.

No one takes him seriously because he isn't acting like ex special forces.

He keeps talking about Deb undermining him but he's done absolutely nothing to take control. Blaming other people isn't going to make anyone listen to him, no one is going to follow the commands of a whimpering bitch.

Funny thing is, even being ex spec ops he isn't the most dangerous person in the group, Kumiko is.
Well rinbael said it also correctly in a way, if MC was just some office worker or had just been a career soldier sand grunt with issues, the way he acts might make sense. Not for someone who was selected for spec ops, got through and survived the training and was actually sent on missions. I get that dev might leave him some room to grow, but when it comes to his job he is one of the elite and has to have some experience, brains and skills based on that. :p But it seems those are all given to Saint Deb instead of him, who does not have that background or training.

Besides if he had been just a grunt that blindly followed orders, he would have been no danger whatsoever to those who got him into jali even if he would try to hunt them down, they just would need someone high enough in the chain of command to order him to desist his actions and if you can frame someone into jail you also have that power and it would make way less waves. :p
 
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I think that's the point DA22 is trying to make.

No one takes him seriously because he isn't acting like ex special forces.

He keeps talking about Deb undermining him but he's done absolutely nothing to take control. Blaming other people isn't going to make anyone listen to him, no one is going to follow the commands of a whimpering bitch.

Funny thing is, even being ex spec ops he isn't the most dangerous person in the group, Kumiko is.
Yeah your right I agree. The backstory of the MC doesn't make sense or match his personality He is supposed to be an ex-military bad ass but he is a pathetic bitch and doesn't do anything to change that. Retrieving the past does the Ex-military MC much better Jensen isn't a complete pussy and people take him seriously Cobra Venom does the same thing as well.

I just hope the MC can change at some point and not act like a pathetic sheltered virgin that can barely talk to women without being a creep. Hillside had the same problem and the dev seems to be slowly changing that after seeing the criticism and the game is much better for it.
 
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Avaron1974

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Hillside had the same problem and the dev seems to be slowly changing that after seeing the criticism and the game is much better for it.
The last update for that game was a massive improvement on the MC, hope it keeps up.

Hope the same happens here too.

Sounds weird saying this as a lesbian but watching a woman take over that isn't the main character shouldn't be happening. Sure, have her fuck other women if the game calls for sex scenes and I won't complain about seeing some lesbian action.

However, having what is supposed to be his main priority and the girl who claims to be in love with him also try and fuck her aunt does seem a bit of an odd choice to me.

If the dev wants Deb to have a harem and run the show then she should have been the MC but having the MC take a back seat in his own game hasn't won him any fans.
 

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I hope there will be a choice to end Kumiko later. If you go about offering sex from your servants then you deserve nothing less. But she's on the banner image in OP, so it won't happen. Also, this MC won't do shit.
 
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Avaron1974

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I hope there will be a choice to end Kumiko later. If you go about offering sex from your servants then you deserve nothing less.
She didn't offer sex from her servant.

Play it without skipping.

It was her.

Also seems you skipped over all of her story too.
 
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I hope there will be a choice to end Kumiko later. If you go about offering sex from your servants then you deserve nothing less. But she's on the banner image in OP, so it won't happen. Also, this MC won't do shit.
Umm, while there's plenty of faults in the novel

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I hope there will be a choice to end Kumiko later. If you go about offering sex from your servants then you deserve nothing less. But she's on the banner image in OP, so it won't happen. Also, this MC won't do shit.
You should replay it and accept her offer. It's not what you think...
 

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The last update for that game was a massive improvement on the MC, hope it keeps up.

Hope the same happens here too.

Sounds weird saying this as a lesbian but watching a woman take over that isn't the main character shouldn't be happening. Sure, have her fuck other women if the game calls for sex scenes and I won't complain about seeing some lesbian action.

However, having what is supposed to be his main priority and the girl who claims to be in love with him also try and fuck her aunt does seem a bit of an odd choice to me.

If the dev wants Deb to have a harem and run the show then she should have been the MC but having the MC take a back seat in his own game hasn't won him any fans.
Yeah the stuff with Milly annoys me it's even worse when I don't want to be a creep to her but the game makes me anyway that gets on my nerves I just want to be a good dad to her and the game won't let me. Like I've said before the only character I like is Astrid and I really hope that she doesn't join Deb's harem but going by what I've seen so far that won't happen.

The stuff with Julia was annoying since I chose not to watch it but the game forces me to see it anyway Deb can fuck her all she wants but I really wish I had the option to ignore it.
 

DA22

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Yeah your right I agree. The backstory of the MC doesn't make sense or match his personality He is supposed to be an ex-military bad ass but he is a pathetic bitch and doesn't do anything to change that. Retrieving the past does the Ex-military MC much better Jensen isn't a complete pussy and people take him seriously Cobra Venom does the same thing as well.

I just hope the MC can change at some point and not act like a pathetic sheltered virgin that can barely talk to women without being a creep. Hillside had the same problem and the dev seems to be slowly changing that after seeing the criticism and the game is much better for it.
True and again, if he cant even handle a normal conversation with a woman, how would he ever be selected for special ops where he might have to work with women (though women special ops are rare) or might have to work with non army related women during missions or training?
 
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