Xythurr
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Well if you do write an essay please break it up into paragraphs for readability.
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Odin Eye Patch
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i think that's totally reasonable i don't know what would have to change to get updates out faster bring on more people lower the quality of the content too ease work load im in no position to say the one positive i can give is the dev does talk to the community when a game is in a bad spot in my experience the communication is the first to go i haven't seen that yet so im inclined to give the dev some leeway
Fair and I'm 99% sure you're just joking around but if not let's be real we're on f95 Grammar punctuation etc is the last thing anyone cares about on here.
I don't really get this concern with how long the game will take to finish. I don't play this game to see the ending, I already know how it will end. It's obvious.
It's a harem game, he's gonna end up with a harem, I'm not exactly at the edge of my seat here wondering what will happen in the end.
I play for the journey, to see the how and to see the scenes and the characters interacting.
Because it's fun and hurrying it along artificially, decreasing quality just to get to the ending faster would defeat the point imo. The quality is what I'm here for, not the ending.
Personally I would be fine with one year intervals between updates. I'm not in a rush, I just want this game to not be abandoned.
But I don't think that's what baibai wants. He said himself that he needs his regular affirmations and it's not hard to see why. Things get really hostile on here after a few months and no update, it's not hard to see how that would sap someone's motivation eventually when that hostile period gets longer and longer as the updates take longer.
So I think the best course of action would be to just cut the days in half or even in third. Get updates out faster, keep positivity high.
It's a harem game, he's gonna end up with a harem, I'm not exactly at the edge of my seat here wondering what will happen in the end.
I play for the journey, to see the how and to see the scenes and the characters interacting.
Because it's fun and hurrying it along artificially, decreasing quality just to get to the ending faster would defeat the point imo. The quality is what I'm here for, not the ending.
Personally I would be fine with one year intervals between updates. I'm not in a rush, I just want this game to not be abandoned.
But I don't think that's what baibai wants. He said himself that he needs his regular affirmations and it's not hard to see why. Things get really hostile on here after a few months and no update, it's not hard to see how that would sap someone's motivation eventually when that hostile period gets longer and longer as the updates take longer.
So I think the best course of action would be to just cut the days in half or even in third. Get updates out faster, keep positivity high.
Bobjock
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You get 10 points for Bruce Campbell
nalgonas4ever
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We're running in circles, Baibai already talk about how this long periods of time between updates aren't doing it for him, when the update drops the goal would be to cut that dev time, I agree with someone here who said that witha few days where only one or two things happening would be good for pacing, maybe less demanding scenes and more simple or wholesome ones where not many renders are needed, since I believe one of the charms of the game is the routine of seeing every day gives the narrative flow a good structure. We can only hope Baibai has a plan for this and with enough feedback this game could keep going with healthier update realeses.
Problem with year long release schedules is that it almost never works for these kind of games. Only with overwhelming support like with Eternium can it work out. If a dev knows they don't need to release anything for a year then they almost always become lazy and then the deadline slips they grovel and the cycle continues.
The longer cycle also leads to patrons becoming disincentivized to continue support. Even as a 5 dollar patron for a yearly update release you are paying 60 dollars for a tiny piece of the game. As much as I like the story it simply wouldn't be worth the price of support. I also know that the majority of people here don't pay but many do and those are the ones that keep the projects alive. Someone has to after all.
This guy actually understands the issue:
Most of the "editing criticism" assumes it's just about spotting and correcting spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors - but that's just the fundamental starting point . . . Understand that the placement (or omission) of a comma can change the intended meaning of a sentence, or even a whole paragraph - and only the author can actually make that decision.
Avoiding the use of colloquialisms or contemporary cliches - unless the usage provides "flavor" for a character or the story - is a potential issue, and may not translate very well. Repetitive word usage or phrasing affects dialog or narrative "flow", and is just as distracting for many readers as any typo; which again requires the author to re-think what they want to say, the mood they're trying to create, or the way a particular character would respond.
Depending on enthusiasm or fatigue it could be a simple fix-on-the-fly, or take an hour to rewrite a single paragraph.
HashbrownW
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Any other AVN similar to this? Not the design of characters but has expert narration (like this avn).
It's week the that of time again
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My money is on early January release. Meaning it will be a year-long update (down from updates every 2-3 months, when the game originally released).
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So, looks like it's time... aand:
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Gentlemen, you know the drill, lol
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nalgonas4ever
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I don't think you understand the point of donating, you're not paying for a product, it's not like kickstarter where you can pay for the product and if you give more money you could get more stuff or like any retail store; the point of using patreon is to give your pocketchange or any amount or disposable income you don't need so that the people receiving that money can keep going with their current project and possiby do more in the future, that's how patronage works. Of course many awful devs take advantage of this so they slow as much as possible the workflow and the updates are thin in content. If what you want is to pay one time then just like any other game in the market you'll have to wait for the complete version.
Exactly, and it's even worse when you take in considerations how much pression for a perfect update Baibai strives for, not even acounting that life can be a bitch and working on your spare time get's even harder.
I mean even at the earlier pace this dev was going at (3-ish months per in-game day) this game was going to take years to finish. Now it's just not even remotely practical. This game is as good as dead at this pace.
TosaTo
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I completely agree, but I doubt anything will change with how many fanboys this game has."