VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9b] [BaiBai]

[DatWanGai]

No, she's a gold digger. She's also a slut, but her dialogue hints several times in no uncertain terms at her being a gold digger. Such as her suddenly developing interest in leo once he mentions that he might inherit a lot of money from his dad.

Eh. Next update guess i'll have to re-read the older parts or I just wasn't interested enough in her to pay attention.

 

[duckydoodoo]

While there have certainly been plenty of plans for this game that have changed over the years I can confidently assure you that this point still stands.

the poster named themself hugh janus, as in huge anus or a "big asshole", i wouldnt concern myself with them if i were you

 

[NeoEros]

From what I have seen and heard, most(at least a large group of number) of chinese player don't like this game, because it contains the content of "送女", which is a toxic point in chinese monopoly harem novel or game that the mc willingly to be cuckold.

The chinese word "送女" mean the mc willingly giving the girl who are interested in mc(no matter she is interested in mc's money, charm, power, etc) to another male character. The girl's type is not limited in main Li, side Li or even npc, as long as the girl have a more detail description in the story or maybe some chemistry between her and mc will fulfill the type label. Normally the mc who are doing this will describe their action as for the greater goods, help the buddy or using this to fulfill their goal.

So in this game, mc's pushing melena towards leon action in chinese's eyes is considered as "送女", even mc is not interested in melena, and that make this game have a quite negative rating in the chinese AVN clique, even many saying the story telling are quite emotional and the word's full of passion.

tbh I genuinely forgot who this Melena is lol. I had to download this game again, opened it, didn't see her name in the relationship chart, replayed the latest chapter again, finally saw her bitchy face, and I was like, "This is what all these fuss is about?" Her appearance is lackluster compared to other blonde LIs in the game, her attitude reeks of gold-digger type, MC (and me lol) wasn't interested in her at all, and most of all, we already have quite a lot of LIs to take care of... I honestly don't see the point of all these arguments. Maybe it's because I prefer forming a decent-sized harem where MC and girls are mentally connected, I just think being the main character of the game doesn't mean we have to fuck every hole that exists lol. These guys really suffer from some twisted (aha!) version of main character syndrome.

 

[Hugh Janus 88]

the poster named themself hugh janus, as in huge anus or a "big asshole", i wouldnt concern myself with them if i were you

That's rich coming from a person of such high and respectable user name.

 

[wiseold6996]

Well, as long she keeps leo's dumbass face away from us. It's good. Because I don't want to do another wingman episode for him

 

[The Lamb Sauce]

I almost forgot this peak for a minute. Is it gonna be a huge update considering the 11 months development?

 

[DougsLeftNut]

She was a lousy person best suited for giving Leo a reason not to hang around anymore.

Yep. Any excuse to get Leo off somewhere else is a good move to me.

 

[w123t4]

tbh I genuinely forgot who this Melena is lol. I had to download this game again, opened it, didn't see her name in the relationship chart, replayed the latest chapter again, finally saw her bitchy face, and I was like, "This is what all these fuss is about?" Her appearance is lackluster compared to other blonde LIs in the game, her attitude reeks of gold-digger type, MC (and me lol) wasn't interested in her at all, and most of all, we already have quite a lot of LIs to take care of... I honestly don't see the point of all these arguments. Maybe it's because I prefer forming a decent-sized harem where MC and girls are mentally connected, I just think being the main character of the game doesn't mean we have to fuck every hole that exists lol. These guys really suffer from some twisted (aha!) version of main character syndrome.

From what I know, their standard for Li is kind of different. They think the Li is identified not by the author but by the reader/player, if a female character describe in detail in the story then the player will start to develop feelings to her(no matter good or bad) and decided she is a Li or not. Moreover, they think if a character is well described in the story then it must be useful in later story(the rule Chekhov's gun), otherwise it will be pointless to make her appear and describe so detail to players.

In Melena's case, a large group of chinese player think she is like a side Li(even she is not in the relationship page) as she is described in the story in detail, related to one of the main Li, have some interested towards mc(even it is only for mc's fame) and may some how affect the story future. Then, after mc send her to leo, in their view is the main character send one of the Li to another male character, which consider as a willingly cuckold aka "送女", become a toxic point for this game and lead to a negative rating.

Btw, if someone still not understand why "送女" is a toxic point for them you need to also understand the definition of main character in their view. The chinese think the main character known as the main character is beacuse the story is mainly focus around the main character, all the character is described as to service the main character just like in the solar system all the planet move around the sun(mc), having another sun in the middle of story is kind of bad(unless the setting is set at the beginning).

Besides, as being the main character they think he is the winner as being the main focus, so either the winner take all or that thing not appear in the story, and the "thing" is including all the female characters. I remeber one of the chinese player common the game in negative rating and describe the atcion of mc towards melena in the word "The mc just like fed the food by others. The food is already in his mouth, instead of chewing and swallowing, he just spit the food into other's dish".

Hope these can make you understand more.

 

[OWSam000]

The Melena bullshit again.
Pushing Melena to Leo or encourage Leo to develop relationship with her is both bad move. How can you let a obvious gold digger corrupt your best friend that may probably make him another version of mc past pathetic self that end up dying alone.

 

[w123t4]

I don't get why some people get so hung up on melena. She's not nearly as attractive as any of the LIs and her personality sucks. And it doesn't even suck in a fun way. If she were bratty and arrogant, then you'd have the whole "breaking the brat"-appeal. If she were tsundere, there would be the fun of breaking through her shell.
But she's neither, she's just a gold digger. And there's no further depth beyond that. There's no hint of there being a decent person hiding under there. She isn't doing it out of economic anxiety, her family is rich. She's just a gold digger for the sake of it. She's into the mc right now because he is popular and for nothing else.
It's just bitch all the way down.

Well I can quite answer this question and it is also related to what I write above about how chinese think about this game.

In chinese internet there are a famous meme as"好女孩不要錯過,壞女孩不要放過", translate into english is "Don't miss the good girl, and don't waste the bad girl", which is easy to look into the meaning just by words: When you meet the good girl, don't miss her and let her go; When you meet the bad girl, don't waste the opportunity to satisfy your need.

While I think one of the reason why the chinese giving a bad rating to this game by the mc's action toward melena is thinking it just like a willingly cuckold(aka 送女), the another reason I think is saying how can mc waste the good opportunity not to fuck a easy pussy to satisfy his need(by according to the famous chinese meme above).

 

[Hugh Janus 88]

The Melena bullshit again.
Pushing Melena to Leo or encourage Leo to develop relationship with her is both bad move. How can you let a obvious gold digger corrupt your best friend that may probably make him another version of mc past pathetic self that end up dying alone.

Exactly! What to do with a golddigger?

a) push her to you best friend and ruin his life?

b) see through her and smash her violently pulling hee pigtails to teach her a lesson?

That's a no brainer, I dunno how these guys don't get it.


P.S.: there's still time... MC can still teach her the lesson while teaching his friend also the valuable lesson of not trusting that type of girl. Better lose his friendship them lose his life getting married to her.

 

[Small-pp-22]

The Melena bullshit again.
Pushing Melena to Leo or encourage Leo to develop relationship with her is both bad move. How can you let a obvious gold digger corrupt your best friend that may probably make him another version of mc past pathetic self that end up dying alone.

Nah, Ben will supply him with his products and he'll use them to make Melena his bitch. Trust

 

[XK271]

Leo sucks and deserves hell. As long as that hell keeps him from showing up in the rest of the game, all is good.

 

[Alandir]

Well I can quite answer this question and it is also related to what I write above about how chinese think about this game.

In chinese internet there are a famous meme as"好女孩不要錯過,壞女孩不要放過", translate into english is "Don't miss the good girl, and don't waste the bad girl", which is easy to look into the meaning just by words: When you meet the good girl, don't miss her and let her go; When you meet the bad girl, don't waste the opportunity to satisfy your need.

While I think one of the reason why the chinese giving a bad rating to this game by the mc's action toward melena is thinking it just like a willingly cuckold(aka 送女), the another reason I think is saying how can mc waste the good opportunity not to fuck a easy pussy to satisfy his need(by according to the famous chinese meme above).

Well the chinese gonna chinese I guess. From my experience you can't really stop these things. As long as your story isn't tailor made for that specific audience, the chinese and/or south koreans get upset about it. No real reason fussing over it.

 

[dolfe67]

From what I know, their standard for Li is kind of different. They think the Li is identified not by the author but by the reader/player, if a female character describe in detail in the story then the player will start to develop feelings to her(no matter good or bad) and decided she is a Li or not. Moreover, they think if a character is well described in the story then it must be useful in later story(the rule Chekhov's gun), otherwise it will be pointless to make her appear and describe so detail to players.

In Melena's case, a large group of chinese player think she is like a side Li(even she is not in the relationship page) as she is described in the story in detail, related to one of the main Li, have some interested towards mc(even it is only for mc's fame) and may some how affect the story future. Then, after mc send her to leo, in their view is the main character send one of the Li to another male character, which consider as a willingly cuckold aka "送女", become a toxic point for this game and lead to a negative rating.

Btw, if someone still not understand why "送女" is a toxic point for them you need to also understand the definition of main character in their view. The chinese think the main character known as the main character is beacuse the story is mainly focus around the main character, all the character is described as to service the main character just like in the solar system all the planet move around the sun(mc), having another sun in the middle of story is kind of bad(unless the setting is set at the beginning).

Besides, as being the main character they think he is the winner as being the main focus, so either the winner take all or that thing not appear in the story, and the "thing" is including all the female characters. I remeber one of the chinese player common the game in negative rating and describe the atcion of mc towards melena in the word "The mc just like fed the food by others. The food is already in his mouth, instead of chewing and swallowing, he just spit the food into other's dish".

Hope these can make you understand more.

Well ok but you don't have to be chinese to have that mindset. There might be more chinese players like that, but they're also a lot more

 

[Gilber_bestram@176]

From what I know, their standard for Li is kind of different. They think the Li is identified not by the author but by the reader/player, if a female character describe in detail in the story then the player will start to develop feelings to her(no matter good or bad) and decided she is a Li or not. Moreover, they think if a character is well described in the story then it must be useful in later story(the rule Chekhov's gun), otherwise it will be pointless to make her appear and describe so detail to players.

In Melena's case, a large group of chinese player think she is like a side Li(even she is not in the relationship page) as she is described in the story in detail, related to one of the main Li, have some interested towards mc(even it is only for mc's fame) and may some how affect the story future. Then, after mc send her to leo, in their view is the main character send one of the Li to another male character, which consider as a willingly cuckold aka "送女", become a toxic point for this game and lead to a negative rating.

Btw, if someone still not understand why "送女" is a toxic point for them you need to also understand the definition of main character in their view. The chinese think the main character known as the main character is beacuse the story is mainly focus around the main character, all the character is described as to service the main character just like in the solar system all the planet move around the sun(mc), having another sun in the middle of story is kind of bad(unless the setting is set at the beginning).

Besides, as being the main character they think he is the winner as being the main focus, so either the winner take all or that thing not appear in the story, and the "thing" is including all the female characters. I remeber one of the chinese player common the game in negative rating and describe the atcion of mc towards melena in the word "The mc just like fed the food by others. The food is already in his mouth, instead of chewing and swallowing, he just spit the food into other's dish".

Hope these can make you understand more.

Geez, no wonder all the xianxia novel I happened to skim through, all the male characters is either evil, stupid and evil, ugly and evil, prideful and evil and all being put down by the MC, and all female belong to his harem.

 

[w123t4]

Geez, no wonder all the xianxia novel I happened to skim through, all the male characters is either evil, stupid and evil, ugly and evil, prideful and evil and all being put down by the MC, and all female belong to his harem.

Well, xianxia novel is the most critical area that suit what I was talking about, every male characters in the story if not mc's friend(or even some are friend of the mc) will be tricked, being cuckold and took down by the mc. All beautiful female characters in the story will be either in mc's harem, being his fwb, or got fucked by him once. If the non-adult novel website not banned incest openly even mc's family members like sis or mom will be taken by him(which has another special meme term called "kfc family bucket" for having a family's all female family members in a harem).
Despite these winner take all and fuck all plot become more and more toxic as this plot repeat over and over, still lots of reader like to read this kind of story, and in the game aspect is similar to the novel aspect.

 

[Chucke1992]

From what I have seen and heard, most(at least a large group of number) of chinese player don't like this game, because it contains the content of "送女", which is a toxic point in chinese monopoly harem novel or game that the mc willingly to be cuckold.

The chinese word "送女" mean the mc willingly giving the girl who are interested in mc(no matter she is interested in mc's money, charm, power, etc) to another male character. The girl's type is not limited in main Li, side Li or even npc, as long as the girl have a more detail description in the story or maybe some chemistry between her and mc will fulfill the type label. Normally the mc who are doing this will describe their action as for the greater goods, help the buddy or using this to fulfill their goal.

So in this game, mc's pushing melena towards leon action in chinese's eyes is considered as "送女", even mc is not interested in melena, and that make this game have a quite negative rating in the chinese AVN clique, even many saying the story telling are quite emotional and the word's full of passion.

Oh, the game is made by chinese dev? Cool.

Shame that a huge chunk of players do not like it but I can understand them though. No womb should be left behind.

Despite these winner take all and fuck all plot become more and more toxic as this plot repeat over and over, still lots of reader like to read this kind of story, and in the game aspect is similar to the novel aspect.

Personally I am more impressed by their ability to write thousands of chapters. Sure, the plot is basically on repeat in every new country/continent/planet/realm but they pump out chapters like crazy.

 

[dolfe67]

Oh, the game is made by chinese dev? Cool.

Which game, Twisted Memories? No the dev is german afaik. I don't know why that user is talking about chinese players on this site, I doubt there are many of them out here.

 

[HentaiKami]

Which game, Twisted Memories? No the dev is german afaik. I don't know why that user is talking about chinese players on this site, I doubt there are many of them out here.

While true, there do seem to be lots of people of similar thinking, that any female character that isn't ugly must be LI. Even when there's no reason for anyone to really think like that if they read the story.