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Some_Dude?

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Sorry, guys, but I won't be able to please everyone. I'm here to tell a story, although the game's theme is pornographic, there is a really cool plot behind it. The game is too complex for me to create a "Perfect" reality. I try to bring the characters as close as I (a mere human) can to real people, they will come with their problems, loves, impulses, flaws, qualities and motivations. You can try to break it and mold it to your shape, but it will be (in my opinion) impossible to keep everyone under "restraints". So, those who cannot idealize this and accept it as it is, I ask you to open your heart and mind and try to understand the game as it is.

You can try to keep everyone under your control, but I won't guarantee that the game will be careful about that. There are characters and stories that are too complex and are fundamental for the plot to follow.

The game is not just about being NTR or not, the characters are following their lives and they already had lives before you arrived in the Capital. You can influence their lives, but they also influence your paths! If I told you that it is possible to make all the characters love you unconditionally, I would be lying, because there will be bad characters, antagonists, you can also relate to them, but putting your own integrity at risk.

Linsey hates cheating, which is why she dumped Bret. But your aunt won't become your toy overnight, she's a powerful woman and doesn't care about you feelings! (At least not for now).
I love what your going for keep at it, the story sounds like its gonna get amazing, also do you know when you will introduce the swapping gender again or is that still a little ways off before it comes?
 
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smnb

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.... You are trying to cover too many topics at the same time, hiding content left and right, to the point that nothing makes sense and there's really no plot at all. ...
After following previous incarnations of the game for long enough, I think I can explain what's going on. What you're expecting is normal game where author has a realistic plan. Starts small, drives it to finish, gains experience. Then moves to next game that can be bigger and better. And so on. Not here, Greono aims at masterpiece at first try, the ultimate game that has something for everyone. Do you want straight, gay or something else? Characters that are big, small, pretty or let's say less pretty? Be a nice guy or complete asshole? Any combination you can imagine, Greono got you covered! Well, not yet, but that seems to be the plan.

Is it good plan? It depends. I'd certainly like to try finished game like that, with "infinite" possibilies, where I'll sooner reach my own limits than author's artificial ones. I believe that it could be amazing experience. But is it a realistic plan? Most likely not. We're only at v002 and it's already insane maze. It should have strong warning for completionists to not even try, because it could damage their mental health. And that will get worse, because remember, all we've seen so far is supposed to be only the very beginning, more like intro. With that in mind, current pace of development doesn't look optimistic either.

On the upside, what do we have to lose? Nothing. So let him try and wish him the best. Who knows, maybe ten years from now, we'll be pleasantly surprised. He has some good ideas. And as shown in the past, the game can attract quite a few supporters. So if he avoids the same mistakes, mainly the urge to redo everything yet again, when he gets some new and even better vision...
 

greono

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After following previous incarnations of the game for long enough, I think I can explain what's going on. What you're expecting is normal game where author has a realistic plan. Starts small, drives it to finish, gains experience. Then moves to next game that can be bigger and better. And so on. Not here, Greono aims at masterpiece at first try, the ultimate game that has something for everyone. Do you want straight, gay or something else? Characters that are big, small, pretty or let's say less pretty? Be a nice guy or complete asshole? Any combination you can imagine, Greono got you covered! Well, not yet, but that seems to be the plan.

Is it good plan? It depends. I'd certainly like to try finished game like that, with "infinite" possibilies, where I'll sooner reach my own limits than author's artificial ones. I believe that it could be amazing experience. But is it a realistic plan? Most likely not. We're only at v002 and it's already insane maze. It should have strong warning for completionists to not even try, because it could damage their mental health. And that will get worse, because remember, all we've seen so far is supposed to be only the very beginning, more like intro. With that in mind, current pace of development doesn't look optimistic either.

On the upside, what do we have to lose? Nothing. So let him try and wish him the best. Who knows, maybe ten years from now, we'll be pleasantly surprised. He has some good ideas. And as shown in the past, the game can attract quite a few supporters. So if he avoids the same mistakes, mainly the urge to redo everything yet again, when he gets some new and even better vision...
My intention is to make the game sandbox after the first transformation, I hope.
And no, I'm not going to redo everything, I'll take this one to the end, whatever the cost!
Really, the only one who loses something is me. I waste nights, days, moments with my family and son to stay here, programming and rendering. But it's my choice, because I want to do something good that I enjoy and that makes me feel good.
 

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My intention is to make the game sandbox after the first transformation, I hope.
And no, I'm not going to redo everything, I'll take this one to the end, whatever the cost!
Really, the only one who loses something is me. I waste nights, days, moments with my family and son to stay here, programming and rendering. But it's my choice, because I want to do something good that I enjoy and that makes me feel good.
I am happy to see you are working on the project again and I enjoy the new update. However, please, those who love you should be on the first place.
 

Ai Shoujo Fan

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My intention is to make the game sandbox after the first transformation, I hope.
And no, I'm not going to redo everything, I'll take this one to the end, whatever the cost!
Really, the only one who loses something is me. I waste nights, days, moments with my family and son to stay here, programming and rendering. But it's my choice, because I want to do something good that I enjoy and that makes me feel good.
Oh no. I don't like Sandbox games. I think that I will probably stop playing when that happens. But it's your game. Do what you want.
 

Ai Shoujo Fan

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Did you give her the pill? Think about it.
I didn't know that there was an option to give anyone a pill yet. I only skimmed through 0.02 to get an idea for the content, but I have not played it seriously yet. I will wait until 0.03 when you have fixed the phone texts and inability to remove the girl's shirt. Will it only be fixed in 0.03? When you were on version 0.01, I think you had multiple versions like version 0.01 Fix 1, 0.01 Fix 2, 0.1 Fix 3 and so on. Can't you do a 0.02 Fix 1 so we won't have to wait until 0.03?

So who can I give a pill to now and at what time can I give it to them? Hopefully not at the train station because you said that the new content in 0.02 won't affect my saves and I can start from when I go into the apartment building for the first time. But I don't mind. If I need to start the game over, I will. It will just take me a long time to remember the best decisions to make to figure out how to get the most number of points. So which girl, and where to give her the pill at?
 

greono

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How can I get to that scene I played the game 6 times over but still cant get that scenes tried a lot of things
The scene in the bathroom will only happen if you don't find Bret in the alley.
 

greono

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I didn't know that there was an option to give anyone a pill yet. I only skimmed through 0.02 to get an idea for the content, but I have not played it seriously yet. I will wait until 0.03 when you have fixed the phone texts and inability to remove the girl's shirt. Will it only be fixed in 0.03? When you were on version 0.01, I think you had multiple versions like version 0.01 Fix 1, 0.01 Fix 2, 0.1 Fix 3 and so on. Can't you do a 0.02 Fix 1 so we won't have to wait until 0.03?

So who can I give a pill to now and at what time can I give it to them? Hopefully not at the train station because you said that the new content in 0.02 won't affect my saves and I can start from when I go into the apartment building for the first time. But I don't mind. If I need to start the game over, I will. It will just take me a long time to remember the best decisions to make to figure out how to get the most number of points. So which girl, and where to give her the pill at?
That part was about giving Lindsey the pill back.
But I'm thinking about releasing an intermediate version with more content at night, changing the chat (NTR removed), talking about Jenny, Jimmy and talking to Cameron on the phone.
 

greono

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Oh no. I don't like Sandbox games. I think that I will probably stop playing when that happens. But it's your game. Do what you want.
I don't like sandbox either, believe me. But I'm going to make a different sandbox, you won't need to keep redoing the same thing a thousand times to increase relationship levels or increase a skill. It will be a mix of "open world" and sandbox. You will go out into the city and I intend to create many different situations throughout the game.
 

greono

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You're not removing the whole genre from the game are you?
No, just the moment Anny grabs Jimmy's dick.
but it will happen again in the future if you let it.
It didn't make sense for her to pick on him and have corruption 0
 
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Zedire

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Zedire said:
And speaking of that scene, is there any way to get back to my sister before or during that event to help her out? During the scene where we go the the guard's office, I avoided peeking and chose 'leave' but literally was forced to peek on the officers (though I have no interest in doing so). Could we get an option to skip that whole scene by leaving immediately after talking to the guard captain and so be able to be there for our sister?
I really wanted to make this skippable, but it would be more content to add and I was already worried about the release time. Believe me, I plan to make this optional soon.
Maybe you could just have the MC spend a little more time with the guard chief guy in his office after learning about the job (before the woman returns). SO like, instead of the MC leaving right away, they might have the option to peek at what the chief is packing (sorta like they did with Bret), only the chief sees them and decides to grope MC a bit.

I mean, first the police chief looks like one of the Village People (heh) so I was sure there would be some good-cop-bad-cop below-the-belt options in his office, and second, his personality seems perfectly on par (if the scene where he molests the female officer is any indication) with using his power and position to manipulate and take advantage of people. I could easily see him groping MC after MC peeked at his dick and then saying 'what are you gonna do about it, tell the police?'. That wouldn't require more than 1/2/3 simple CGs to illustrate. But either way they get interrupted by the female officer and it gives a gay/bisexual MC, who doesn't want to peek on f/m stuff, a choice that works for them and a reason to be late to meet his sister.

Just a thought tho!
 

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No, just the moment Anny grabs Jimmy's dick.
but it will happen again in the future if you let it.
It didn't make sense for her to pick on him and have corruption 0
i hope you add Sharing in the future with the girl you chose as your GF
 
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greono

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I mean, first the police chief looks like one of the Village People (heh) so I was sure there would be some good-cop-bad-cop below-the-belt options in his office, and second, his personality seems perfectly on par (if the scene where he molests the female officer is any indication) with using his power and position to manipulate and take advantage of people.
That's exactly how I see him! HAHA. It's great that I managed to convey that feeling.

Maybe you could just have the MC spend a little more time with the guard chief guy in his office after learning about the job (before the woman returns). SO like, instead of the MC leaving right away, they might have the option to peek at what the chief is packing (sorta like they did with Bret), only the chief sees them and decides to grope MC a bit.

I could easily see him groping MC after MC peeked at his dick and then saying 'what are you gonna do about it, tell the police?'. That wouldn't require more than 1/2/3 simple CGs to illustrate. But either way they get interrupted by the female officer and it gives a gay/bisexual MC, who doesn't want to peek on f/m stuff, a choice that works for them and a reason to be late to meet his sister.
Believe me, I have many ideas similar to this, but for the future. I still can't see something like that happening on day one, but I'll try to think of something.
 
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