VN Ren'Py UC8 [v0.3.5.1] [Dark Griffin Games]

[Quetzzz]

I'm just surprised for realism sake, even though it's an AVN with porn logic. You don't find many 37 year olds in relationships with under 25's. That's a big age gap. There's no harem tag so if we are supposed to choose, yes it's Jo only at the moment, the rest of the official LI's seem unrealistic, I thought they would all be side chicks. There's no chemistry so far with Amber, Rachel or Erin, no shared life experiences and Leslie really passed me by. I thought Stacy, Tink and Jackie seemed possible and much more obvious as choices. Greta makes more sense than Amber or Erin, she would a great 'Mom' for Kinley.

I'll have to be completely honest here... I've recently replayed this game from the start and just played its latest update... But I don't have a clue who half of these names are. Jo I remember because there is actual chemistry there, as well as a certain deliberate intention.
You have a good point, I think. I had the impression that all chicks were side chicks and all sex was casual. And, on some level, that's fine. Some relationships start out with casual intimacy and progress further. Others start from friendship and mutual respect.
One LI I didn't expect to be in the list is Tink. I remember her being clear she was only looking for a casual stuffing, not the whole relationship thing. (I could be wrong.)

If we're going by the creep rule, then the MC could date anyone between the ages of 25 and 60. I'd agree that 25 is relatively young, but I'd also look at their life experience. A 25-year-old who has been working and living independently for 5 years is an entirely different person than a 25-year-old who just finished university. Personally, I couldn't see myself being in an LTR with someone that young, but that's mostly due to long-term thinking. But other people make other choices, and people often have several reasons for picking a certain partner. A 25-year-old who never had financial stability might find a financially stable older guy more attractive, and if this guy has a very nurturing and caring side to him, then he'd be compatible with her in that regard.

So yeah... Collecting my own thoughts on this, I think you're right when looking at realism. And narratively, it could've helped if the MC clarified what he was looking for. His balls are constantly empty, so is he even looking for something long-term, and what does he want to get out of a relationship? The usual reasons of companionship and sexual security don't really fly in the MC's situation.

 

[FatGiant]

I'm just surprised for realism sake, even though it's an AVN with porn logic, the dev has mentioned the importance of realism a lot, in how the characters look, his past experiences in previous jobs and the plot. You don't find many 37 year olds in relationships with under 25's. That's a big age gap. There's no harem tag so if we are supposed to choose, yes it's Jo only at the moment, the rest of the official LI's seem unrealistic, I thought they would all be side chicks. There's no chemistry so far with Amber, Rachel or Erin, no shared life experiences and Leslie really passed me by. I thought Stacy, Tink and Jackie seemed possible and much more obvious as choices. Greta makes more sense than Amber or Erin, she would a great 'Mom' for Kinley.

I'll have to make two saves. Against my own rules, and against my feelings for non-harem games. I can't EVER say No to Tink. Or Jo. The others, so far, I haven't connected that much. Sure, they're young, lalalalalala, but... I dunno, they don't feel like relationship material. No, not even the awesome Jack.

Tink, we share a LOT of history. Jo, I dunno, we click like 2 puzzle pieces. It's simple, it's easy, it's comfortable, it JUST feels right.

About 37 year olds and 25 year olds, well, I think it happens a whole lot more than you think. It hits the perfect point there. The woman is fully grown, she wants stability, a family oriented guy. The man, wants something fresh, a young but mature woman, a nice young body with a fresh but fully developed mind. By that time, he's already established professionally, she's done with school and it's rising in her career. He can be "the mentor", she can be "the protégée". She'll make his ex-wife climb walls (don't minimize this), he'll make her exes feel inadequate. For him it feels like a "Hurrah", for her it feels like a "At Last".

Yeah, it happens a LOT more than you think. In fact I think that if you look around, you'll find that 25 year old girls are the MAIN reason for many divorces.

But, strangely, 37 year old women, and 25 year old men, is not as common. It still happens, but a lot less. What will surprise you (maybe) is that 37 year old women also go for 25 year old girls.

Basically, 25 years old girls, are in VERY high demand. And to be completely honest, as they should be.

Peace

 

[Quetzzz]

But, strangely, 37 year old women, and 25 year old men, is not as common. It still happens, but a lot less. What will surprise you (maybe) is that 37 year old women also go for 25 year old girls.

That's interesting, isn't it? It makes me wonder why so many games include the cougar trope of the aggressively hungry older lady and the eager boy who just wants to motorboat those titties.

 

[FatGiant]

That's interesting, isn't it? It makes me wonder why so many games include the cougar trope of the aggressively hungry older lady and the eager boy who just wants to motorboat those titties.

The thing is, the cougar, will not drop her husband for the boy. While the man, well, he'll drop EVERYTHING for the 25 year old girl. I've seen some that moved to other continents. That went to live in squalor with her, leaving mansions, cars, fortunes behind.

While the cougars? Well, they get a new pool boy the next month. They use them, they don't fall in love with them. The men do.

It is exceedingly rare to see couples like Cher and her husband. While Autumn-Spring weddings for men, are VERY common.

So, yeah, those fantasies, of young men being captured by cougars, they do happen, they just end very differently in IRL.

Peace

 

[Quetzzz]

The thing is, the cougar, will not drop her husband for the boy. While the man, well, he'll drop EVERYTHING for the 25 year old girl. I've seen some that moved to other continents. That went to live in squalor with her, leaving mansions, cars, fortunes behind.

Yeah, you're right. Great observation!

So, yeah, those fantasies, of young men being captured by cougars, they do happen, they just end very differently in IRL.

Fantasy / nightmare... Potato / potahto.

 

[Scooter_Tramp]

yeah, I'm a 70's baby.

60's Harley Riding hippie...
I may be old but I saw all the cool bands... I'd like to say I have the t-shirts to prove it but sadly most of them have been stolen...
(You move in with a buddy, you're at work one night and when you get home there is a 100 people you don't know in your place, there's 3 strangers sleeping in your bed and 3/4 of the cool shit you own is just gone!)

 

[Dryparn]

What's with Kaylas ass? Her ass looks like it got an allergic reaction to her runaway stage 12 ass cancer.

 

[DaFinker]

That was all through the compassionate route.

There were two choices:
1. Be gentle
2. Yell at her

Everything I mentioned happened after choosing Be Gentle.

God only knows what would have happened if I had chosen the cruel (yelling) option.
MC probably would have thrown her off the top of the building..

If I recall correctly, she kicks him in the nuts. He gets some sympathy and she gets apologetic. And, yeah, as someone else said, she reacts the way she does because of her history and trust issues. It's very reasonable given the totality of her experience and circumstances.

 

[FuhQ6969]

a mod would have to rewrite and render scenes to do that....so dont hold your breath

Yeah it's why I said unlikely, at least for awhile. Without the .duf files for Daz AI would have to reverse engineer the models from the renders and would probably need multiple angles to do it at least semi-accurately. Could probably do it manually with a shitload of trial and error and tweaking, but people with that amount of free time just make their own AVN, as not counting the dozen Big Brother remakes and reboots there's only a few that I know of that took an abandoned AVN and ran with it by rebuilding the asset list from scratch, though in the near future hopefully that changes once AI makes that process massively easier.

 

[Grif1001]

I'm just surprised for realism sake, even though it's an AVN with porn logic, the dev has mentioned the importance of realism a lot, in how the characters look, his past experiences in previous jobs and the plot. You don't find many 37 year olds in relationships with under 25's. That's a big age gap. There's no harem tag so if we are supposed to choose, yes it's Jo only at the moment, the rest of the official LI's seem unrealistic, I thought they would all be side chicks. There's no chemistry so far with Amber, Rachel or Erin, no shared life experiences and Leslie really passed me by. I thought Stacy, Tink and Jackie seemed possible and much more obvious as choices. Greta makes more sense than Amber or Erin, she would a great 'Mom' for Kinley.

So, in response to all of this discussion (some of what I willl mention was in other posts) the reason that some of the other's, like Stacy, and Jackie are only side chicks is because they are there to keep the "Porn minded I'm only here to fap" occupied as the story is built around the potential LI's. Other than Tink, every lewd option so far had been with a side chick for that reason.

Tink is special and has earlier lewd scenes because she and the MC had a previous relationship in their past that was left pretty much unresolved due to each of them, for various reasons, walking away without closure. She can be an LI if you choose for her to be one. As for the comment one person made about Tink saying that she wasn't looking for anything serious. That was in a text and she was lying through her teeth. She wants the MC so bad that she will take him being in her life in any way she can have him. she has loved him for years and thought that she lost him and would rather tell him to play the field and enjoy his freedom and still come to her bed whenever he wants to, over pressuring him to make a choice that might have him saying that it's too soon after his divorce and just pushing her away. He is her forever love, the one that got away and now she has the chance to have him again and she will do anything to hold on to him, even if that means sharing him with others. That's what that text conversation was about. I thought I had written that so that it came through in the undertones, but if not I'm making that clear now. Tink's heart belongs to the MC, each player gets to choose if they want it.

The other LI's, Joanna, Amber, Leslie, Rachel, and Erin, are still in the process of developing their stories.

Jo's story is further along in her story arc due in large part to the relationship between her daughter, Jamie, and Kinley.
Erin's story is the next progressed. You may have noticed from the main menu, that Erin is the "Poster LI' for the story. and yes, I know some of you were mad at how she acted early on, but her explosion of stress to be followed by someone who instead of just yelling at her, took the time to educate her and help her grow and then took so much off her shoulders and actually made her job fun again for her caused the MC to become someone that she believes in wholeheartedly. In her eyes he is the Leader she has been hoping for and she is now completely loyal to him and it's not hard or uncomon for a relationship with that kind of loyalty to shift into a deeper intimacy.
Rachel has poped up a few times so far, the girls both like her, and after a brief meal in this latest episode, we now have a date set up with her in the next release.
Amber almost felt like a throw away character with the breif bank scene, but then she brought us the change order and she was lookin really good in those pants! So we took her to get ice cream and we are at the begining of her journey.
Leslie is even further back than Amber along her route as all we have done so far is meet her. this next release will see her coming to the house to either do Martial Arts or Weight Training with you and Kayla.

Also, Keep in mind that ALL the interactions in the game are YOUR choice. With the exception of the backstory girls [at the UC30, Tink, Sharron(the girls mom), and Masie(the ex wife)] you can play the game and choose for the MC to have sex with no one at all, if you want. So it's always funny to me when people complain about certain girls... Then don't choose her. I don't go to the ice cream shop and complain about all the flavors I don't like. I just enjoy the ones I do.
I try to write the story in such a way that if you played it with no sex at all you would still have moments of laughter and moments of tears and would enjoy the story regardles of the sex. The game is STORY centric. I try to my best to make it as close to reality as "porn logic" will allow, yet also throw in some over the top campiness from time to time like you might see in any good comedy movie.

 

[HornyyPussy]

So it's always funny to me when people complaine about certain girls... Then don't choose her. I don't go to the ice cream shop and complain about all the flavors I don't like. I just enjoy the ones I do.

Yeah, as you may have noticed, that's not really how it works around here most of the time

I love how you're building the story and I'm usually on the Pokemon path but I can curb myself collecting to what you will allow (magnanimous of me, I know ).

 

[snakeplisskin]

Yeah, as you may have noticed, that's not really how it works around here most of the time

I love how you're building the story and I'm usually on the Pokemon path but I can curb myself collecting to what you will allow (magnanimous of me, I know ).

Who are you? And what did you do with HP?

 

[Grif1001]

So, now that we are officially in the Season of Giving, I thought I'd bring back this little gift from a few years ago. A UC8 exclusive, and my favorite Christmas Song, written but not performed by your's truly... Back by popular demand here's...

Christmas Time to Get Lost!

 

[Quetzzz]

Also, Keep in mind that ALL the interactions in the game are YOUR choice. With the exception of the backstory girls [at the UC30, Tink, Sharron(the girls mom), and Masie(the ex wife)] you can play the game and choose for the MC to have sex with no one at all, if you want. So it's always funny to me when people complaine about certain girls... Then don't choose her. I don't go to the ice cream shop and complain about all the flavors I don't like. I just enjoy the ones I do.
I try to write the story in such a way that if you played it with no sex at all you would still have moments of laughter and moments of tears and would enjoy the story regardles of the sex. The game is STORY centric. I try to my best to make it as close to reality as "porn logic" will allow, yet also throw in some over the top campiness from time to time like you might see in any good comedy movie.

A small suggestion relating to choices. What do you think of color-coding choices depending on their importance? Choices that have a large impact on the story or Lis could have a different color than those that are unimportant, like for side chicks. This would signal to players that they're free to follow the porn whenever they want without consequences while making clear that not all LIs and interactions are equal.

Another thing that might need clarification through gameplay is how the MC himself looks at relationships. With the way he's happy to fuck around casually, it would be striking if he suddenly thought monogamy was a good idea, even if players largely opted out of encounters. I'm a bit premature here, because this situation hasn't arisen yet, and going by porn logic, it could be likely that all permanent LIs are still fine with him sleeping around.

Yeah, as you may have noticed, that's not really how it works around here most of the time

To go with the analogy, I think it's fair to ask at an ice cream shop why they aren't offering milkshakes. Or, in my case, I'll always be a proponent of less exaggerated boobs, but I'm fully aware and respectful of the dev making the game he wants to make.

 

[Grif1001]

A small suggestion relating to choices. What do you think of color-coding choices depending on their importance? Choices that have a large impact on the story or Lis could have a different color than those that are unimportant, like for side chicks. This would signal to players that they're free to follow the porn whenever they want without consequences while making clear that not all LIs and interactions are equal.

Another thing that might need clarification through gameplay is how the MC himself looks at relationships. With the way he's happy to fuck around casually, it would be striking if he suddenly thought monogamy was a good idea, even if players largely opted out of encounters. I'm a bit premature here, because this situation hasn't arisen yet, and going by porn logic, it could be likely that all permanent LIs are still fine with him sleeping around.


To go with the analogy, I think it's fair to ask at an ice cream shop why they aren't offering milkshakes. Or, in my case, I'll always be a proponent of less exaggerated boobs, but I'm fully aware and respectful of the dev making the game he wants to make.

I will think about this first suggestion, however when I started this I had teamed up with Sancho to do the moding and he was doing that with the choices in the mod, so I didn't worry about it. I don't know if Koda is doing this now that he took over the mod but I would assume so. I do tend to let you know if you are about to choose an option that will permanently close a path with an LI or SC.

There is a recent announcement in the DGG discord that addresses this second part to some extent...

To the final point, I actually try to keep the boobs fairly average in size, if you look at all the boobs you've seen in the game, Erin, Greta, Gail, Mina, Vivian, Alexis, Tasha, Jo, and Tink are all pretty average. Poppy and Marcy are on the smaller side, Kayla Abby, and Gina are at the top end of average, and Daphne, Jackie, and Imani are on the larger scale. I try to have a little bit of something for everyone to look at. They aren't all just huge, lol

 

[Quetzzz]

To the final point, I actually try to keep the boobs fairly average in size, if you look at all the boobs you've seen in the game, Erin, Greta, Gail, Mina, Vivian, Alexis, Tasha, Jo, and Tink are all pretty average. Poppy and Marcy are on the smaller side, Kayla Abby, and Gina are at the top end of average, and Daphne, Jackie, and Imani are on the larger scale. I try to have a little bit of something for everyone to look at. They aren't all just huge, lol

I'm a bit facetious here, but many of those average sizes I'd call large.
Still, I'm not complaining. The game is fun, and like you said, I'm free to ignore or reject anyone I want. So that's all good.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Who are you? And what did you do with HP?

What can I say, I like the game to such an extent that I'm willing to forego the usual full Pokemon

 

[swmeek]

I would like if it were ever possible for the two girls from the UC 30 to come work at the UC 8.

 

[Elhemeer]

I would like if it were ever possible for the two girls from the UC 30 to come work at the UC 8.

You know there were at least half-a-dozen girls there ... plus I'm pretty sure he's supposed to be at least a couple states away, if not half-way across the U.S. ...

 

[Quetzzz]

You know there were at least half-a-dozen girls there ... plus I'm pretty sure he's supposed to be at least a couple states away, if not half-way across the U.S. ...

There are always ways to write around that... Please welcome the UC-Exchange program!