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VN Ren'Py UC8 [v0.3.5.1] [Dark Griffin Games]

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Bozeman75 said:
My argument is just that that could have been accomplished with him still snapping at her, and even ordering her around and threatening her with the police to do what he says.
But then before it got to the point of the hotel and her thinking she was going to be sexually assaulted the MC could have stepped back and just told her that he was trying to help her and would not hurt her.
He knew he was scaring her.
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Yeah, I think that's completely fair. From the perspective of a character-driven narrative, there's no real argument against it. In my opinion, though, this game isn't a character-driven narrative. If the MC made clear that he wouldn't even think of raping her, then this immediately gets rid of the tension that the dev was building up. Instead, he forces the MC to be more aloof, so we get the moment of catharsis in the hotel room.

I'm not really arguing in favor of either, just trying to explain why I didn't mind this scene happening the way it did. There certainly was an aspect of the scene feeling forced, but the positive feelings it elicited were more powerful for me than that little frustration.

Considering the alternative scenario where the MC tells her she's safe before reaching the hotel... Would she have been in the state of mind to believe it? It wouldn't be farfetched for her to think he was placating her to keep her quiet, but that her fate was sealed. But, on the other hand, I don't think there's a sign of the MC even considering this. (It's been a while.)
 
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Quetzzz said:
Yeah, I think that's completely fair. From the perspective of a character-driven narrative, there's no real argument against it. In my opinion, though, this game isn't a character-driven narrative. If the MC made clear that he wouldn't even think of raping her, then this immediately gets rid of the tension that the dev was building up. Instead, he forces the MC to be more aloof, so we get the moment of catharsis in the hotel room.

I'm not really arguing in favor of either, just trying to explain why I didn't mind this scene happening the way it did. There certainly was an aspect of the scene feeling forced, but the positive feelings it elicited were more powerful for me than that little frustration.

Considering the alternative scenario where the MC tells her she's safe before reaching the hotel... Would she have been in the state of mind to believe it? It wouldn't be farfetched for her to think he was placating her to keep her quiet, but that her fate was sealed. But, on the other hand, I don't think there's a sign of the MC even considering this. (It's been a while.)
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I know the scene was harsh. I meant it to be. I meant it to be even harsher than it needed to be, specifically to cause the player to question Jason's motives. By writing the scene this way it helps cause the player to have a stronger attachment to Poppy than you would have had I written it with him being nice and reassuring to her. I want the player to care for Poppy even at the expense of their trust for Jason.

As I have said before, Poppy will not be an LI in UC8. But she is still one of the MOST central characters to the story. As far as non-LI's go,she is second only to Kinley. and that is saying something considering that Peter already has a planed spin off AVN, and that Mike and Mary(The neighbors) are planned to have cameo's in every AVN I make because Mike is me in AVN form. and Mary is a non-LI because, sorry, but if I make a fake wife for a characte based on myself, I'm not sharing her :ROFLMAO: :p

I may be throwing out bread crumbs here, but Poppy is so crucial to the story that the player has to have a deep and instant conection to her. I want the player to feel like Poppy is priceless and needs to be protected, even if the first time they feel that was is by feeling that she needs to be protected from Jason.

Trust me, it will all make sense in the end.
 
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Quetzzz said:
Boo! :ROFLMAO:
Kidding aside, I was hoping she'd become an LI someday because I like her design. She would've been a bit of a counterweight to all the massive boobs that are thrown at the MC. :LOL:
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There is a "rumor" going around that she will be an LI in an upcoming AVN.

Also, Marcy has smaller boobs...
 
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Grif1001 said:
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I know the scene was harsh. I meant it to be. I meant it to be even harsher than it needed to be, specifically to cause the player to question Jason's motives. By writing the scene this way it helps cause the player to have a stronger attachment to Poppy than you would have had I written it with him being nice and reassuring to her. I want the player to care for Poppy even at the expense of their trust for Jason.

As I have said before, Poppy will not be an LI in UC8. But she is still one of the MOST central characters to the story. As far as non-LI's go,she is second only to Kinley. and that is saying something considering that Peter already has a planed spin off AVN, and that Mike and Mary(The neighbors) are planned to have cameo's in every AVN I make because Mike is me in AVN form. and Mary is a non-LI because, sorry, but if I make a fake wife for a characte based on myself, I'm not sharing her :ROFLMAO: :p

I may be throwing out bread crumbs here, but Poppy is so crucial to the story that the player has to have a deep and instant conection to her. I want the player to feel like Poppy is priceless and needs to be protected, even if the first time they feel that was is by feeling that she needs to be protected from Jason.

Trust me, it will all make sense in the end.
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That's fair - I'm enjoying the story so far.

My opinion is just that up to the Poppy scene every interaction the MC has had with women has been kind and supportive.
And then seemingly out of nowhere we see him be abusive to Poppy, someone who as you say needs to be protected.

I don't know if it was your intent, but you've established that the MC has an abusive side to him that can come out towards women.
 
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First off, thanks for pointing out the musical references. Early 70s kid, but I often didn't know the album names. I had thought the "girls just wanna have fun" comment seemed out of place, but after seeing your list it clicked. Some really solid choices there.

Second, having worked retail for several years in my youth, yeah the stories are kind of wild. Had a woman get a job where I worked my first job specifically because she wanted to know me better, in the groping me in the stock room kind of way. I was a teen, so of course I gave her what she wanted, but looking back that might be called something else now. And the older women (double to triple my age) that would fake weakness and ask if that strong young man could come help them. Oh, the female coworkers never let me forget some of those. At the same place, I had a store manager that had allegedly gotten several employees pregnant over a span of 5-6 years before I started. He left the company while I was there after he knocked up an employee at least 10 years younger than him. All of that while I was 16.

Third, a little sad about Poppy and Mary. Good to see Mary has a twin sister.

Is there an official list of LIs in the game?
 
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This will get you started, It needs to be updated though...

Just check the bottom of each slide where it says "Romantic Content?"

 
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Grif1001 said:
This will get you started, It needs to be updated though...

Just check the bottom of each slide where it says "Romantic Content?"

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That's a young group of ages as LI's for a 37 year old. I'm surprised more of the older side chicks aren't possible LI's.
 
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Mii88 said:
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That's a young group of ages as LI's for a 37 year old. I'm surprised more of the older side chicks aren't possible LI's.
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So far, Jo is my favorite. I like the chemistry they have. But when we were asked about wanting a relationship with her, I didn't know what to reply. From a meta perspective, the game is very much a "fuck em all", and a relationship insinuates monogamy unless clearly agreed otherwise. So I didn't know if I'd be declaring a certain intent.

As for young girls... I think it's still very reasonable for an AVN. A few are 19, but others are 20 or even 25+. And arguably, for side chicks, it matters even less because we're not talking about anything long-term.
 
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