VN Ren'Py Unleashed [v0.6.5b] [CarbonBlue]

[CarbonBlue]

I suspect in this case it's the "Novel" part of the VN that's brought things to a screeching halt. A lot of these guys don't even roughly map out the stories they're trying to tell.

I can confidently say that anytime anyone makes any kind of assumption about me or my motivations, you're going to be wrong.

Unleashed been roughly mapped out since day one. It hasn't all been written, of course, and scenes get added and retracted all the time while in the process, but the beats have all been there. Also there is no story, just events.

Then explain to me why not abandoning this project instead of milking your patrons for more money???

Because this project isn't abandoned. FFS you've got Milfy City in your signature, don't act like you're offended by games that take a long time.

 

[dorleans90]

I can confidently say that anytime anyone makes any kind of assumption about me or my motivations, you're going to be wrong.

Unleashed been roughly mapped out since day one. It hasn't all been written, of course, and scenes get added and retracted all the time while in the process, but the beats have all been there. Also there is no story, just events.

Because this project isn't abandoned. FFS you've got Milfy City in your signature, don't act like you're offended by games that take a long time.

Alright, fair enough. Also, five years is actually a perfectly normal amount to time for a novel to take, now I think about it.

This is just a theory I came up with to account for the bizarrely high number popular, successful games that lie abandoned. I noticed a majority of them suddenly ceased at the exact same point in their narratives, which also happens to be a notorious hump among aspiring writers in more traditional forms. I wondered if perhaps due to their creators' origins in the gaming industry, they may not have benefited from the only useful thing anyone ever learns in creative writing classes - how to get through writers' block.

Keep in mind the most popular explanation on this site is that you're all greedy conmen looking to live lives of idle leisure off your patreon accounts.

Which... I mean, there are a lot stupid theories, but that one's systematically idiotic in a way that makes me suspect it originated as satire. Yet somehow it's the only theory.

Point is, I'm working in the dark here. The only other thing I could come up with is that there's some kind of obscure, unique combination of psychological stressors involved in making porn games that leads to burnout rates higher than a front line combat regiments'.

I didn't mean to say Unleashed was abandoned though. I didn't realize that was a matter of genuine dispute, so I assumed I could refer to "abandoned games" without anyone imagining it was one of them. I was really wrong about that, as it quite obvious now that I reread the... um, what I'll charitably refer to as "discussion".
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Ok , new theory - it's clearly F95 zone. That's the mysterious psychological stressor in play. Do yourself a favor and stop reading these threads. There's nothing to worthwhile here. Just a bunch of assholes bitching at you for not giving them free stuff fast enough.

 

[CarbonBlue]

This is just a theory I came up with to account for the bizarrely high number popular, successful games that lie abandoned. I noticed a majority of them suddenly ceased at the exact same point in their narratives, which also happens to be a notorious hump among aspiring writers in more traditional forms.

Yeah, that's not wrong. My guess is that it has more to do with burnout and/or life circumstances getting in the way, but each creator is different. It is a shit ton of work doing a VN and it's not something you learn in writing classes. You can't just write the story - you have to visualize the presentation. And that's something I still struggle with: when I write a scene I describe the render at the same time, kind of a descriptive storyboarding. But sometimes I can't get the scene to look like what I wanted, or sometimes I actually get a better/different visual that turns the scene in a different direction.

I guess it's more akin to a movie director. But you're picking out the clothing, creating the look of the characters, you're learning daz3d, photoshop, denoising, caesium, handbrake, XnConvert, a movie editor, renpy, etc. That's not to complain, this job is still a blast, but I'd wager most people here have no idea the amount of work that goes into it. It doesn't help that we've got frickin' robots like DrPinkCake making us amateurs look bad.

I didn't mean to say Unleashed was abandoned though. I didn't realize that was a matter of genuine dispute

I don't know that I'd say it's a matter of genuine dispute. F95zone is a game in itself to a lot of people. They're not only playing the VN's, they're super interested in the business side of things - who is doing well on Patreon, who is rising and who is falling, etc. It's kind of the same in the movies with how much people love to look at box office returns. And anyone who's been here a while has been hurt by a great game getting abandoned (for me, Demon Boy still hurts). So we got people here playing the F95zone game where it's fun for them to root against me, and it's no skin off their teeth to say some of the dumbest shit imaginable. But I'm not the only game that gets that treatment and it's not a stressor on me because they are easily ignored.

 

[dorleans90]

Then explain to me why not abandoning this project instead of milking your patrons for more money???

How is he "milking" them? Anyone dissatisfied with the frequency or size of project's updates is free to cease their support at any time. That information is made publicly available, for free, even to non-subscribers. If someone still has supporters, they either have reasons of their own of which you are unaware or too negligent to bother keeping track.

I'm not sure what about it you think could serve to mislead a grown person. In general, if large numbers of strangers are doing something and you don't understand why, it's considered more reasonable to assume ignorance on your part than brain damage on theirs. Due to Occam's razor and not multiplying causes beyond necessity and such.

Or are you under the impression that the rest of humanity lacks your own astounding intellectual capacity to add two and two together?

 

[granny gumjobs]

So we got people here playing the F95zone game where it's fun for them to root against me, and it's no skin off their teeth to say some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

The same goes for the developer Carbonblue. Just look at all the dumbest shit imaginable.










I'm not gonna give an estimate until I know for sure but I do know that its coming soon but I don't know when but I don't want to give an estimate on something that is coming soon.

"Will be coming soon." So you don't want to give an estimate but you just did? Makes sense if you don't think about it.

Add that one to the dumbest shit pile. Keep posting Carbon so we can keep playing F95zone: The Game.

 

[Otter123]

The same goes for the developer Carbonblue. Just look at all the dumbest shit imaginable.

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I'm not gonna give an estimate until I know for sure but I do know that its coming soon but I don't know when but I don't want to give an estimate on something that is coming soon.

"Will be coming soon." So you don't want to give an estimate but you just did? Makes sense if you don't think about it.

Add that one to the dumbest shit pile. Keep posting Carbon so we can keep playing F95zone: The Game.

He guaranteed an update before the end of the year. Are we expecting no update or the usual 20 hidden renders that he updates the game with to prevent f95 from marking this crap as abandoned?

 

[CarbonBlue]

You would honestly have to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet to think that I'd release an update just to avoid an abandoned tag on F95zone.

 

[Matt2012021]

That's real smart insult fans of your vn blows the mind how you still support on this vn

 

[Otter123]

You would honestly have to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet to think that I'd release an update just to avoid an abandoned tag on F95zone.

You literally did it a few months ago. Nobody could even figure out what new renders you added to the game because it was such bullshit right at the end of your 1 year before being marked as abandoned LOL