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Now its 500 per month. Some people got wise to the scam.
This VN is deader that a corpse that's been discovered in an ancient tomb. But hey, a few renders for $500 a month, what a great and generous dev he is.
How about whoever here is complaining creates a game too? Do better then, criticizing won't help him have the energy to complete the game, first question did any of you help with money?
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Criticizing won't help? True, but here is the thing. People didn't start criticizing until it started taking more than a year for 400 renders. How about all the "The next update will be "soon" posts that he makes than a year later its still "soon". Hell the last (insert extreme sarcasm when saying the next word) "update" took 15 months for 90 renders. If that does not deserve criticism than I don't know what does.
Another thing concerning the criticism. Carbon has every person on here on his ignore list that does not kiss his ass. If you give any sort of negative feedback you are ignored so he doesn't see any criticism anyway. Only the positive. He has basically created an echo chamber of people saying he is awesome.
If we did give him positive vibes would that help speed up development? Would it drop from 15 months per update to say a reasonable 4 months? No. No it won't. This guy is a scummy developer. He will literally release a BROKEN update just so he won't miss out on the money. Don't believe me?
Just look at that. He said if it won't be out in May he will pause and then releases a broken update just so he "Won't lose $700". Really shows that all he cares about is money. Thats why he will take 15 months to release something.
Did any of us help with the money? Why the fuck would we after seeing his scamming and scummy actions. Besides, don't you think that $700 per month for 15 months for 90 renders of work is help enough? Do the math bud. Thats 6 renders a month. He has all the financial help he needs for the amount of work he does.
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There are literally numerous people in this thread who have mentioned that they used to support the dev on patreon before realizing that the VN was fully dead and the dev had decided to just scam people out of their money instead lmao
here is the problem i think a lot of us have with the dead horse beating crowd, the game is obviously taking forever, and Mr. Blue has a lot of excuses behind it, but how is he scamming anybody? any folks giving him cash have all the same info we have here and if for whatever reason they don't care enough to cut him off why do you guys care if they do?
The people who have been around forever wasting their money on the dev are a lost cause. Ripping on the dev for his constant lies is just to prevent new people from finding this game and falsely believing that it isn't abandoned and is worth supporting with money. The dev specifically lies about release dates and puts out updates with 20 new renders to prevent the game from being marked as abandoned on this site so that new people will pledge.
To address some of the claims from the haters, since they never cease their bullshit and people shouldn't have to constantly go back a mile to see the truth:
I lie.
- I have never given out a release date with the intention and expectation of not hitting that release date. I do suck at predicting when I will finish, yes. But any time I give a date I fully intend to meet that date. But I will not release something that is not ready.
I released an update in order to keep the Patreon payment for that following month.
- Sort of. It's called a deadline. I self-imposed a hard deadline to disincentivize me from constantly editing, deleting, and re-doing scenes.
I release an update in order to avoid the abandoned tag on F95.
- That's such a stupid claim. An abandoned tag wouldn't affect my income. Not all my income comes from F95. In fact, according to my Patreon analytics, F95 is a minority of my income/traffic. I've said it a hundred times before: when I (or any dev) releases an update, we make money, when we don't we lose money. So an abandoned tag wouldn't matter because I'm losing money for not releasing an update anyways, and the abandoned tag would just be removed when I released an update and wouldn't affect my income at that point either.
They are preventing me from income, or what they consider saving people from a scam.
- Again, F95 is a minority of my income. They're not having an impact.
I've scammed people out of money.
- If a patron feels that I've scammed them I would honestly refund their money. If they're not dicks.
In conclusion: I'm just a dude trying to make the best VN I can make and give people an entertaining experience. I've got a lot of failings and these past few years have been the toughest of my life. I am hoping to do better and I'm not going to make any promises and I plan to simply show everyone with high quality content that will hopefully give people something else to talk about. I'm often available on discord if people want to actually talk to me about things. Thanks for reading!
I lie.
- I have never given out a release date with the intention and expectation of not hitting that release date. I do suck at predicting when I will finish, yes. But any time I give a date I fully intend to meet that date. But I will not release something that is not ready.
I released an update in order to keep the Patreon payment for that following month.
- Sort of. It's called a deadline. I self-imposed a hard deadline to disincentivize me from constantly editing, deleting, and re-doing scenes.
I release an update in order to avoid the abandoned tag on F95.
- That's such a stupid claim. An abandoned tag wouldn't affect my income. Not all my income comes from F95. In fact, according to my Patreon analytics, F95 is a minority of my income/traffic. I've said it a hundred times before: when I (or any dev) releases an update, we make money, when we don't we lose money. So an abandoned tag wouldn't matter because I'm losing money for not releasing an update anyways, and the abandoned tag would just be removed when I released an update and wouldn't affect my income at that point either.
They are preventing me from income, or what they consider saving people from a scam.
- Again, F95 is a minority of my income. They're not having an impact.
I've scammed people out of money.
- If a patron feels that I've scammed them I would honestly refund their money. If they're not dicks.
In conclusion: I'm just a dude trying to make the best VN I can make and give people an entertaining experience. I've got a lot of failings and these past few years have been the toughest of my life. I am hoping to do better and I'm not going to make any promises and I plan to simply show everyone with high quality content that will hopefully give people something else to talk about. I'm often available on discord if people want to actually talk to me about things. Thanks for reading!
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October 2020: v5.2 will be released next week. (Missed that date by 7 months.)
Also October 2020: v5.3 will be released at the end of December. (Missed that by 15 months)
May 2023: v0.6.5 will be in a week or two. (16 months)
The other deadlines didn't mean anything but the single one that you say you will pause payments that is the one that you meet? Sure bud. It was the deadline. It had nothing to do with you missing out on that $700 if you didn't release it.
Want to give people an entertaining experience? Make the game. Put out updates. Stop taking 15 months for 90 renders. Simple.
Oh, last thing about the haters for a long while: I have them on ignore not because they're jerks, but because they have nothing new to say. They keep saying the same crap over and over and over and I'd love it if the mods at F95 actually enforced their rules...
But for whatever reason they do not.
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Only games in active development get the second rule, otherwise there's nothing to talk about at all and we might as well lock the thread.
Anybody else ever get a laugh out of CB constantly saying he has the "haters" blocked/ignored just for him to constantly respond to all of them?