RPGM Completed Until Chloe, the New Wife, Falls [Steam] [StudioVR]

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RexUniverse

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SupaHot said:
I do not care about the use of generative neural networks vs. manual work beyond what the end result looks like. That being said, to me this game just seems like a poor use of the technology. The whole point should be that you cut down on the amount of manual work required and can thus create something better with the same amount of effort. For example, you could automatically generate the unimportant parts of an image, then draw the important parts yourself. Or you could relatively easily create multiple variations of the same scene using img2img. But to me it seems that for this game the intent was just to produce something that is "good enough" with low effort.

For context: I would have hoped that with the comparatively lower effort needed to create the images the game would have a pregnancy system and pregnant CG variations. But instead it seems that there is only a single scene with pregnancy.
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And here I was playing the game with hopes with being a mechanic system instead of another ending based in one of the pics they were showing. Maaaaaaaan, I get it must be hard to some to work out the system, but I wished we had more pregnancy mechanic in more games these days.
 
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alibaba34

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AI art is definitely a controversial topic nowadays. Especially in this small thread, whether you voice your approval or not disapproval of the advancement in AI, it will be akin to a squeak in a market full of chaos.

There is only one thing I hope to convey: and that is for anyone who read this, please do feel and think, be honest with yourself, what does AI art actually means for us, and our future?

I have two main points to present:
1. Lost of current talent, and stiffening of future talent.
2. Promoting growth of generic products.

With the ease of creating AI art, at a pleasing level of quality, using just a few prompts, do anyone of you here still any burning desire to learn art from scratch? What about the kids growing up? If you are learning art now, do you have the motivation to continue your path?
The effect of AI art is clearly discouraging the budding young talents and the shakening the veteran artists.

If you are thinking at this point, this is not a problem, right? AI can replace these outdated skillset eventually. AI will be perfect for creating art that is indistinguishable from human-drawn art.

You are right, and I do agree that AI will eventually become so advanced that it will eventually be close to perfect. Almost indistinguishable.
However, you are forgetting that AI, as a machine, doesn't have imagination. Machines runs on maths, relying on raw datas. It will never produce anything innovative. It will give you the most optimal result. The most calculated, precise piece of product. But, in the domain of creative work, which are art and game, this is just an imitation of human's imagination.

Without a healthy amount of passionate new artist, we will see a decline in new artstyle, decline in the continuation of some artstyle, hindering the development of new artstyle and art theory. All of these decline will also affect the data for the AI art . AI art will become stagnant without the emerging artist. We art we see around us, such as Pixvix, will be stagnant.

These leads to my second point.
As the ease of making game becoming even more advance. Game can be almost entirely made using AI, such as generative text, to generate ideas, and scenarios. Generative art to make CG, standing character art, background...
Game that has this kind of skewered ration of human input to machine input, the end result will be a generic game.
Why innovate? why think of a new exciting story and scenario? A new fetish?
This is the problem with generating a creative product. The desire to grow, to create, to innovate, will be cheapened.
The convenience of Ai, will likely create an increasing amount of generic game. Game that has very similar artstyle, very similar mistake, very similar story and scenario.
The data after all, came from us, the human. If we as human don't continue to be creative and innovate, stagnation and decline will happen.

To wrap this up, do think about what does AI means to you. Personally, I think AI is wonderful in reducing laborious work, and that is to be supported. However, when it comes to the creative domain, it will bring more harm in the long run than the immediate benefits. AI art, is like a pandora box, it is already opened. It is a power that cannot be stop. But where and how we as public wants to use is entirely within out hands.

To finally end this discussion, I want to say that whether you enjoy or do not enjoy ai art, it is your own enjoyment, you own choice. There is no right or wrong to it.

I personally, do not enjoy a game that is largely produced with calculation, and not with passion or creativity. It is no fun to me.
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Your argument is quite pessimistic. AI is not going to make an entire game for you with 0 effort. It is only going to drastically reduce the time required to finish some aspects of the game. Yes, AI is never going to innovate and come up with new elemental art styles on its own. However, it is going to shorten the barrier to entry for people with ideas about game design.

You might be a person with a very small idea about a certain game scenario. Yesterday, with no AI tools to help you out that idea may be left buried in your memory. But tomorrow, with advanced tools, you might come up with a quick gameplay slice and release it for public criticism.

AI tools will drastically reduce the iteration time for game devs. Take the example of coomer games that we all like here. Right now it is only confined to some creators who make some half-baked shit and milk Patreon for years. Because the process of making shit from scratch is very hard, there are very few people who make porn games because your skills (if any) are better spent on making mainstream stuff. With AI tools a lot more people will be able to make stuff at a similar level of quality that the Patreon milkers can make right now.

The current hysteria against AI comes from the lack of information, resistance to new innovations, and laziness that is making some people irritated at learning new stuff.
 
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onore

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Lol I think NTR is unironically avoidable. I went the full slut route and still missed a cg (yute 3) which I would assume is obtained by doing non-lewd jobs and not going home with the knight guy.
As for the AI stuff, I'm a simple guy it comes down to whether or not the h art is fappable to or not.
 
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LexiTV

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Art is good but the scene progression is a joke and also the gameplay is pure shit. Overall I quit this game after like an hour or so.
 
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LexiTV

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onore said:
Lol I think NTR is unironically avoidable. I went the full slut route and still missed a cg (yute 3) which I would assume is obtained by doing non-lewd jobs and not going home with the knight guy.
As for the AI stuff, I'm a simple guy it comes down to whether or not the h art is fappable to or not.
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NTR is UNAVOIDABLE. Enemies combat rape the heroine or she gets trapped in various H-traps like stuck in the wall. You can'T avoid any trap / enemy there is.

You can of course avoid a full blown NTR ending you can't avoid NTR. Just by clearing the dungeon you get mandatory NTR scenes.
 
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alibaba34

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Game feels quite a bit shallow as the heroine keeps getting raped left and right in the dungeons but this is never addressed in the plot. There is no point.
 
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Black_Rose

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I think Yuto need his own game :KEK:

She going to fall at the hands of traps to fall for her husband ex-friend I think we now the ending to this without playing :WeSmart:
 
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PhoenixChampion

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monkgi said:
No. Pregnant content is one of the town events you do to make money. It's 1 scene and then never mentioned again.
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Well that's the bigger reason for why I don't want to download this game then.

Seriously I don't mind the AI art because sometimes things get to the point where you want a fetish, but no one is actually making the fetish and you know there is a community for the fetish. I have AI Art for my personal use on my phone because 1: I do not have to disposable income to just keep paying an artist to crank out fap material every other week, 2: Even if I DO have the income- Well that's just an awkward conversation period.

Plus lets say someone DOES decide to download RPG maker and start to make a game- You're asking this person to not only learn how to code a game, but you're also asking this person to learn how to draw, possibly even asking them to have to buy specific equipment so they can get their images onto their computer with some decent quality. Plus, I myself have shaky hands, so lets add that to something that may be a problem.

Plus, again, if you're making your first game and you know someone who can commission the art- How in the hell do you expect some people to have the confidence to ask someone if they can draw sex scenes for a hentai game you're working on?

Listen sometimes AI art is just a sacrifice people are gonna have to accept when it comes to games.

Now admittedly, this game is just another in the line of 'Quick Corruption Hentai' that really is a dime a dozen, but the reason I'm not getting this is because when I'm looking for the Pregnancy Tag I'm looking for it as a game mechanic- Not a one off scene.
 
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rouge_g

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perqontolan2022 said:
is there any save files for this game?
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There's no point. Either you play through the game normal and unlock most everything, or you go straight to the Album on the title screen and choose the option to unlock all Events and CG's.

This game has more effort put into it than you'd expect for an AI asset h-game. There's no hidden limbs, eyes or fingers, it's consistent to the character designs throughout and there's passable audio during events. Would be nice if the sequences were longer and greater variation, but this is not that kind of game. More AI h-game's should at least aim to meet the bar set by this game, because most are much shorter on content and play as a linear visual novel with fake choices.
 
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