While that's true, it's reasonable to restate this criticism as, "The RPS single combat in this game isn't very fun or engaging." I'd agree with that criticism. Beyond that, how do we actually make this mechanic fun? That's less clear.If you use "defensive" attacks, you'll take basically no damage, allowing you to memorize or write down the enemy attack patterns LOL.
I don't enjoy the combat system either. That's why I just click the chicken and enjoy the rest of the game, which is amazing.
Replied in #54 since this might be OT for this thread Vae Victis - Khan: metagame discussion might be a better place
Name one Porn game with a "good" combat system, I know I've never seen one, I think the one in play here is about as good as you can hope for without a serious investment of time and energy that might be better spent on porn.
In my opinion Sengoku Rance has decent gameplay.
Refresh my memory about what that combat system was like? I seem to remember it as being essentially RPGM style with a little extra boost for the armies. I don't remember anything about the one on one combat.
I'm not attacking Doorknob's design here. In fact, on paper the idea makes sense to me. In practise however, the effort it takes to memorise the enemies pattern is utterly disproportionate to the accomplishment I personally feel for doing so (memorising is a skill I'm not too good at, and one I don't value). Thus, I click the chicken, and enjoy the game. Problem solved.
[of course, "better" here is a very subjective criterion].I wasn't trying to suggest that you were attacking anyone, my point was simply that I personally haven't seen any combat systems in porn games that I liked. IMO The rock, paper, scissor approach seems as good as any and better than most.I'm not attacking Doorknob's design here. In fact, on paper the idea makes sense to me. In practise however, the effort it takes to memorise the enemies pattern is utterly disproportionate to the accomplishment I personally feel for doing so (memorising is a skill I'm not too good at, and one I don't value). Thus, I click the chicken, and enjoy the game. Problem solved.
Some RPGM games have a combat system I do enjoy, eg Roundscape Adoveria or Meltys' Quest. But comparing RPGM to Renpy here feels a bit unfair. Renpy games with combat systems I have played are Tales of Terrara and Raven's Quest, in both cases I feel rather neutral about them (the latter is too grindy for my taste though). My own game is due to get a combat system soonish. We'll see whether I can do better then
Like you said, that was standard turn-based combat, with buffs-debuffs, magic, attack, defend etc. But what matter most is not an idea (it is very hard to invent something new) but the execution. IMO there was good balance between many things. Number of items/abilities/mechanics in comparison with the usability and length of the game, for example (I don't like too high number of useless items or mechanics that don't matter). Lack of "single trick" to win all battles. Hard to explain because devil is in the details but I remember that gameplay was overall fun.
Yeah, thats what I meant when I said
Having a good combat system is cool, but there doesn't seem to be much you can do within the scope of these engines. And even if Doorknob22 had that level of skill/knowledge is it worth it for a story based porn game. Actual AAA RPGs and Slash-em-ups tend to struggle with decent combat systems never mind doing it in Renpy.
You don't need to memorise, just open Notepad & write the pattern down.
Alien Quest: Eve and Iris in the Labyrinth of Demons I find really fun just as regular games (even if they could use some better balancing). Flying Princess: Inter-Breed is also refreshing and fun, even if it's a simple system and has a few glitches (also that can be kinda bullshit at higher difficulties).
I assume you mean get to keep in your base? You don't, you can get Alma and Domia, Fahda stays home.
