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Latex224

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Dear Patrons,

First and foremost, I want to sincerely apologize for the long silence. Unfortunately, some things didn’t go as planned. I had hoped that this post would be the last one before the game’s release, and my goal was to finish everything before Christmas. However, there will be a delay. This is due to some decisions I made which, as it turns out, were not the best, and now I’m facing the consequences.

I understand this might sound like a vague excuse, but unfortunately, I can’t go into full detail about everything. So, I’ll focus on what’s important and game-related.

The game will continue in the same form and spirit as it has been so far. One of the significant changes will be ensuring that no relationship in the game feels forced—players will have greater freedom in how they approach the story. This will not be a remastered version but rather a continuation of the same narrative.

The game will retain its title, Victoria in Big City. Of course, there will be some improvements and refinements—though not everything will be included in the next update, you can expect to see them in future updates.

This doesn’t mean that all the work I’ve done since the last update has gone to waste. During this period, I’ve primarily focused on creating new scenes that continue Victoria’s adventures. I understand that the gap between updates has been too long, and I regret that certain circumstances have made it this way.

I do have a plan for the future to ensure things look different moving forward, and I hope I’ll be able to put it into action. This project is incredibly important to me, and I’ve devoted countless hours to it over the past few years. I just need to ask for a little more patience from you. Believe me, I’m just as eager to release this update as you are to play it.

Sometimes, we need to take a step back to move two steps forward.

Thank you all for your incredible support and belief in this project. It means the world to me, and I deeply appreciate it.


Warm regards,

Groover

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Thanks 4 the share Sorrow. :)
 

88stanford88

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LOL My off topic thread about Victoria has done the miracle..
Victoria will be back without any remastering expansion ... bc this game is perfect as is!
 

88stanford88

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Thank you Sorrow85 for posting the first real post of Groover Games when I recognize him and his style
Dear Patrons,

First and foremost, I want to sincerely apologize for the long silence. Unfortunately, some things didn’t go as planned. I had hoped that this post would be the last one before the game’s release, and my goal was to finish everything before Christmas. However, there will be a delay. This is due to some decisions I made which, as it turns out, were not the best, and now I’m facing the consequences.
You are a great developer Groover Games... and I love your production called VIBC
I'm glad you finally wrote a post with such sincerity... for me as you know, it has always been clear ever since the bombastic Special Announcement posted here by Obranyi that your intentions as Groover Games your intentions were made in good faith, but unfortunately when one is lured by the thought of having collaborators who.... as I read in May 2024 blatantly wanted to change your style (and in fact convinced you to change the title too so that you could add characters that would take over
I understand this might sound like a vague excuse, but unfortunately, I can’t go into full detail about everything. So, I’ll focus on what’s important and game-related.
It sound sincere and honest... finally you are back in yourself... and I really appreciate what you write here
The game will continue in the same form and spirit as it has been so far. One of the significant changes will be ensuring that no relationship in the game feels forced—players will have greater freedom in how they approach the story. This will not be a remastered version but rather a continuation of the same narrative.
This is music to my ears... you are the best.... i don't really like to say that ‘i said this from the start’ but...... i said something very similar in this post that only a few (2/3 or more they are short updates were needed to close the first season
I wrote my old post in may 2024 in response to that incomprehensible announcement with a real sadness on my part because I loved and I still love playing with your VICB.
The game will retain its title, Victoria in Big City. Of course, there will be some improvements and refinements—though not everything will be included in the next update, you can expect to see them in future updates.
WOW this is a real relief Victoria is the protagonist of your great story
This doesn’t mean that all the work I’ve done since the last update has gone to waste. During this period, I’ve primarily focused on creating new scenes that continue Victoria’s adventures. I understand that the gap between updates has been too long, and I regret that certain circumstances have made it this way.
It would be enough for me to see the beautiful poker scene ... Screenshot 2024-12-20 at 13.38.05.jpg the one you posted in May
that's all it would take to make a brief update, perhaps, but one that would reawaken the optimism lost in these months of random lies from the guards who used to call me a troll...
I am here as the super fan of your work
if I may ask GrooversGames What beautiful and classy evening dress did you prepare for the poker night with Victoria?
I do have a plan for the future to ensure things look different moving forward, and I hope I’ll be able to put it into action. This project is incredibly important to me, and I’ve devoted countless hours to it over the past few years. I just need to ask for a little more patience from you. Believe me, I’m just as eager to release this update as you are to play it.
Thank you!
As I said you can just post a small update ... of course you have to do that something that fot with the style of the 0.55
haste is not a good thing when you are writing an interactive story with images(VN)
your game is very very good!
Thank you all for your incredible support and belief in this project. It means the world to me, and I deeply appreciate it.


Warm regards,
Say hello to our hot Victoria

And Merry Christmas
 

88stanford88

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The developer is withholding a substantial amount of information about the difficulties he has encountered. I wonder why?
I believe that starting a collaboration in a story/game that is far enough along in the progress of the story and getting several heads to agree who may not be in complete agreement with what has already been published... is very complicated... Groover trusted... in fact he wanted to come out already 6 months ago... but to put in another artist who has different ideas and style would have made this beautiful VN become a jumble of new scenes disconnected from the paths that are already very well outlined
In these cases one can certainly add a new path but it must be consistent with what has already been written...
You can't turn a dramatic story with betrayal and loyalty into a comic and funny story...
the game as it is in version 0.55 is down to the halfway point so it would be enough to add the second half to close the season...

i believe the story will not be abandoned... of course there will be some delay...
but just keep communicating with sincerity to gain renewed trust...

i am a musician and i understand the audience... the audience feels when an artist is lying... only truth leads to harmony...
and though I don't know the details... I see that what was missing between groover and the new collaborator(s) was precisely HARMONY in their intentions
 

88stanford88

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What a clown! How can he still be credible to those who support him?
if you like the game... you will support him

He made a mistake and he admitted it... that does him credit
he probably asked for help from others because he knew he had work commitments and he thought having a collaborator was a good idea... I think he has now learned his lesson... better to make small updates... one or two update/year (as it was.. his game started in 2020 ands marked sd abandoned for about 1 year than 0.55 comes out... but to see a beautiful story turned upside down by people who want to change it... and who want to change the sense of the plot
change the perfect plot of VIBC is far worse than having few updates...
He spoke with sincerity
I have always said that VIBC had no need for remastering... so now I will give him my support.

And many many other users here was marked as troll just when they were raising doubts about the need for remastering.

He now deserve to be supported alsi if the new update will came in the summer or later!
even those who came here to distribute false news with long posts about how great the new game would be.....
They was the real TROLLS! I don't want to support trolls... but now... let's see.... for sure something serious happened with the collaborators who wanted to ruin this game
 
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int00h

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oh crap, it's real bullshit.

if you spent 9 months
During this period, I’ve primarily focused on creating new scenes that continue Victoria’s adventures.
you have at least a few completed scenes.
it's so easy to take a few scenes, write a code for them in a couple of days, spend one day for testing\bugfixing and release an update.
very easy. no one will prove to me it's impossible to do it before Christmas.
easily as hell.

of course if you have a few completed scenes in 9 months. of course. :LOL:
 
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Dear Patrons,

First and foremost, I want to sincerely apologize for the long silence. Unfortunately, some things didn’t go as planned. I had hoped that this post would be the last one before the game’s release, and my goal was to finish everything before Christmas. However, there will be a delay. This is due to some decisions I made which, as it turns out, were not the best, and now I’m facing the consequences.

I understand this might sound like a vague excuse, but unfortunately, I can’t go into full detail about everything. So, I’ll focus on what’s important and game-related.

The game will continue in the same form and spirit as it has been so far. One of the significant changes will be ensuring that no relationship in the game feels forced—players will have greater freedom in how they approach the story. This will not be a remastered version but rather a continuation of the same narrative.

The game will retain its title, Victoria in Big City. Of course, there will be some improvements and refinements—though not everything will be included in the next update, you can expect to see them in future updates.

This doesn’t mean that all the work I’ve done since the last update has gone to waste. During this period, I’ve primarily focused on creating new scenes that continue Victoria’s adventures. I understand that the gap between updates has been too long, and I regret that certain circumstances have made it this way.

I do have a plan for the future to ensure things look different moving forward, and I hope I’ll be able to put it into action. This project is incredibly important to me, and I’ve devoted countless hours to it over the past few years. I just need to ask for a little more patience from you. Believe me, I’m just as eager to release this update as you are to play it.

Sometimes, we need to take a step back to move two steps forward.

Thank you all for your incredible support and belief in this project. It means the world to me, and I deeply appreciate it.


Warm regards,

Groover

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Dear Patrons,

First and foremost, I want to sincerely apologize for the long silence. Unfortunately, some things didn’t go as planned. I had hoped that this post would be the last one before the game’s release, and my goal was to finish everything before Christmas. However, there will be a delay. This is due to some decisions I made which, as it turns out, were not the best, and now I’m facing the consequences.

I understand this might sound like a vague excuse, but unfortunately, I can’t go into full detail about everything. So, I’ll focus on what’s important and game-related.

The game will continue in the same form and spirit as it has been so far. One of the significant changes will be ensuring that no relationship in the game feels forced—players will have greater freedom in how they approach the story. This will not be a remastered version but rather a continuation of the same narrative.

The game will retain its title, Victoria in Big City. Of course, there will be some improvements and refinements—though not everything will be included in the next update, you can expect to see them in future updates.

This doesn’t mean that all the work I’ve done since the last update has gone to waste. During this period, I’ve primarily focused on creating new scenes that continue Victoria’s adventures. I understand that the gap between updates has been too long, and I regret that certain circumstances have made it this way.

I do have a plan for the future to ensure things look different moving forward, and I hope I’ll be able to put it into action. This project is incredibly important to me, and I’ve devoted countless hours to it over the past few years. I just need to ask for a little more patience from you. Believe me, I’m just as eager to release this update as you are to play it.

Sometimes, we need to take a step back to move two steps forward.

Thank you all for your incredible support and belief in this project. It means the world to me, and I deeply appreciate it.


Warm regards,

Groover

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Thanks for the update Sorrow85, much appreciated.


I find it amusing the people running victory laps saying "I told you so" like they won something. Who cares we are still in the same boat we were in yesterday, a month ago or 6 months ago. With the same people visiting this thread, the ones that have been crying and whining for months. The release will be released if and when it's ready, the same as always and until that time play another title.

Don't bother to come at me because I am ignoring any responses I have other titles to play.

Happy Holidays
 

88stanford88

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I don't think so, for me to support a game in addition to liking it, it must have a good frequency of development. Some of them, I stopped doing that, for that very reason.
As you wish... the first developer I start supporting was Terebonkoff ... and Lida's adventures was marked as abandoned...
I didn't want to believe it and downloaded from his patreon page all the bug fixes that weren't available then... plus I sent messages to him...
and I realized that he would not do it abandoned...he is just very slow....
I really like Lida and I appreciate the creativity of beauty....
anyway people are not all the same and that gives me hope

do what you feel! I never judge others

I hope this post will not be deleted as OFF TOPIC :D :D :D (it is a bit OT)
 
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88stanford88

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I find it amusing the people running victory laps saying "I told you so" like they won something. Who cares we are still in the same boat we were in yesterday, a month ago or 6 months ago. With the same people visiting this thread, the ones that have been crying and whining for months. The release will be released if and when it's ready, the same as always and until that time play another title.
at least we got rid of the recurring lies and the truth has arrived
and my posts will no longer be deleted :LOL:
Don't bother to come at me because I am ignoring any responses I have other titles to play.

Happy Holidays
I don't want to bother you and it's okay for you to have your own opinions...I don't want to change your mind...I just write what I think...I like to be present in the discussion that led to a solution today..it is rare to witness a bath of realism
and I love to play again VIBC by knowing that some day there will be an update without changing the Title

I wish all the best for the Christmas holidays
 
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