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Of course it was all bogus to take advantage of subscribers. The version that was released this month was originally supposed to be released back in July. Then we were told there was an entire remake of the game. This narrative was repeated over and over again for months until the game was released. Then suddenly we were told none of what was planned was implemented other than a point system that takes like a day to code? Misleading promises have been a staple of this game's development.
Naaa
if you remember correctly the release announced for July it was supposed to be a complete remastering of the whole story...but those trolls who were playing watchdogs on me those months also announced that the title would be changed to a very stupid and meaningless title

Living In Big City:eek:
https://f95zone.to/threads/victoria-in-big-city-v0-6-groovers-games.48016/post-13631590
this is the new Title post
https://f95zone.to/threads/victoria-in-big-city-v0-6-groovers-games.48016/post-13702266

Special Announcement!
Hello My Dear Awesome Fans and Supporters!

I have some very exciting news to share with everyone, and I also want to share the current progress on the upcoming new release.
First and foremost, the hard work being done is coming along nicely and better than expected. This is made possible thanks to taking on a new partnership that is contributing to Groovers Games to help take our AVN Game Project to the next level. Our goal is to deliver a unique, stimulating, and entertaining experience for everyone, and that will start with the new upcoming version of our AVN Game, tentatively scheduled for release in mid-July 2024.
The new improvements and features coming in the new version of Victoria In Big City are significant and exciting, and we want to make sure we do it in the best way possible for all of you to enjoy the experience.

Here is a current list of the new improvements, changes and more coming in the new Remastered version of ViBC:
1) Remastering and Rebranding of ViBC to LiBC:
The new Remastered Special Edition will be: Life in Big City – Featuring Victoria Hearty - Chapter 1 – Version 1.0 – There will be 10 versions for each Chapter in the new remastered edition of our AVN Game moving forward. For example: Chapter 2 will start with Version 11.0 etc., which makes things simple and clear to track new updates.
Some may think a remastering or rebranding of an AVN Game means changing the main story or going off script, which happens often with many AVN Games, and sometimes it ends up confusing their fans and supporters.
With that said, we just want to be clear that is not happening with us. If anything, we are expanding and improving the main story line, and introducing new and exciting characters that will play meaningful roles throughout the story and journey for the main Star MC, Victoria.
2) The existing, main story line will be significantly expanded and improved. This will make your experience more fun, stimulating, immersive and entertaining in many different ways. I don’t want to give away any spoilers, because I want everyone to experience the upcoming new version of our AVN Game for themselves. It is definitely a big upgrade, and I can’t wait to share it with all of you. I also want to be clear about our direction when it comes to the main story. We are staying true to the core of the main story, and simply expanding on it, and introducing new characters that will play impactful and exciting roles. The expanded new stories, and the continuation of the existing main story will definitely be epic, fun and very stimulating. We are going above and beyond with our AVN Game to bring you something, hot, special and truly entertaining!
3) The new upcoming remastered version will have some awesome sound effects for select hot scenes that match the scenes in the best way possible, making the experience more surreal for all of you throughout the story.
4) There will be a new Intro Bio Story for Victoria, which explains the reason for her big move to the Big City, (NYC). This is where the story begins.
5) On Victoria Relationships: Giving everyone a chance to experience an epic, hot, fun and entertaining journey requires flexibility to make the experience for everyone more enjoyable, and that is what we are doing with our new upcoming update.. Victoria will not be forced into any relationship with any character throughout the main story, but she will have the choice to be in a relationship, or multiple relationships, or open relationships, or single and exploring, and this applies to both David and Michael, and all characters in the new remastered version. On Victoria’s Sexuality: As for Victoria’s choices when it comes to having naughty experiences with other women; Victoria will never be a complete Lesbian throughout the story, but she will be open to being Bi-Sexual and having very hot, juicy adventures with some of her girlfriends, as well as new encounters she will experience in future updates. We have already written a few very hot and juicy Lesbian / Bi-Sexual scenes for those that love to see Victoria with other women. We are making sure to give some love to Lesbian lovers of Victoria in our new and future updates!
6) The Paths and choices throughout the story will be improved, along with a new point system that will include, Good Girl, Exhibitionist, Corruption, Bi-Sexual, and Bad Girl, which will automatically add Exhibitionist and Corruption points during some risky and naughty encounters. There will be plenty of those! There will be a clear description for each variable and its meaning, and how Victoria’s traits and journey evolves in this epic, hot and exciting story. Also, when making an important choice and path in the story, we want to make sure you experience the least interruption. So, instead of making multiple little choices for the same path over and over, as with many AVN Games out there, we are making it more efficient so you can enjoy the path you are on without too many interruptions.
7) On new visual improvements and features: Aside from everything mentioned already, you will notice many big changed when you open the AVN Game, including the ability to enable or disable the quick menu, and change the opacity of the textbox.
8) Character Profiles and Descriptions: There will be new character profiles that give a history and description of each character, and how they connect with the MC and each other throughout the story. This will include a profile and des cription for the main Star MC, Victoria as well.
9) On New Character Introductions: We will be introducing new and exciting characters into the main ongoing story over time, as Victoria’s journey continues to unfold. As you experience the new remastered version of our AVN Game, you will see how each character will play a meaningful role along with the main Star MC, Victoria, and between other characters in the main story.
10) On New Upcoming Official Website: Groovers Games will have its own official website soon, and a new U.S. presence, thanks to our new partnership.
These are some of the many things we are currently working on, and planning for our new upcoming remastered AVN Game. We hope that you will enjoy the experience we are creating for all of you as much as we enjoy creating all of this awesome stuff! We are in this for the long term!
PS – I attached some hot teasers from Poker Night Part 2 that will be in the new remastered version coming out in July 2024! Expect more teasers and updates every week!
Stay safe and stay tuned for more future updates as we get closer to launch day! Lastly, I want to thank every one of you for your ongoing awesome support, because all of you made this journey possible, and Victoria thanks you too!

Have a great day and evening, everyone!
Sincerely,
The Groovers Games Team
However, it is too easy to write today the things you say in your post
I understood right away ... and the trolls started barking at my posts predicting exactly what happened
I write this after the bombastic announcement
https://f95zone.to/threads/victoria-in-big-city-v0-6-groovers-games.48016/post-13636626
Practically this game was abandoned!

long explaination for just say that next update will be a downgrade and we have to wait for years for see the continuation of this great story..

Why you don start another episode with new Title? "How Victoria was before go to the Big City"
so you can close this as season1 with a final update... and writting "ENDS of season1" to be continued...?
Than start the S2 about the past of Victoria

I will never delete this great version...
i already added in my backup hard drive!
it would have been better to add just a few flashbacks from the past continuing the corruption of our beloved heroine in the same game!
I suggest you look at my posts written in May 2023 ... while the trolls like JBNYC1 was attacking me
But this version Is very very good
Groover did not listen to the trolls
the title has not changed
The story is continuing as it was...

This game is perfect... and never required an useless expansion remastering!!!

I have some PM from Groover and he explained well what was the problem

In any case this dev was slow since the beginning and the game was declared as abandoned in 2021/22...
Now I'm sure that this dev will never do the same mistake...
we have to wait many many months for the next update... but the TITLE WILL NEVER CHANGE!!!

Thanks to GrooverGames for writing about Victoria and for the perfect renderings in the game!
Screenshot 2025-03-27 at 14.18.32.jpg
I love broken girls.... Victoria is total slut that makes fuckfests in slutville :love::love:

Victoria is back and the game is amazing!!!
 
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She has never had anal sex in her past
Are you sure to play the same game i started today?
What you are talking about?

She comes from a small country town and her boyfriend is Lucas
View attachment 4682737

The first time she has sex in the big city is with Michael and she only does it if you go the Bad Girl route View attachment 4682741 View attachment 4682742
Where did you come up with that Victoria has had anal sex in the past?
She says here that she has never seen a cock that big...why are you spewing all this bullshit?
do you want to derail this thread into nonsense, as you always do?

This is the first time Victoria is having sex outside her engagement with Lucas...

Do you want start your usual crusade against the loser boyfriend?

please stop wrinting nonsense.

Cheers
You completely misunderstood what Zara was saying. She never claimed that Victoria had anal sex in her past, like before the events of the game. What she pointed out is that Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, then later at his club, and with Ben in the morning after the evening at the theater). So that's past tense within the game’s timeline, yet she still acts like it's her first time.

That’s the issue she’s bringing up – the inconsistency in Victoria’s behavior.
 

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You completely misunderstood what Zara was saying. She never claimed that Victoria had anal sex in her past, like before the events of the game. What she pointed out is that Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, then later at his club, and with Ben in the morning after the evening at the theater). So that's past tense within the game’s timeline, yet she still acts like it's her first time.

That’s the issue she’s bringing up – the inconsistency in Victoria’s behavior.
What should Victoria do? Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:
...Do you think the scene would become better that way?
I'm sorry, but I disagree with ZARA!
The sex scenes in this game are top quality... full of details, different camera angles.... they are long to the perfect length, and include very hot dialogues...
I know girls who do the same when they have anal sex.... I don't agree when people complain about the MC's personality.

In the past I had anal sex with my first girlfriend who would not admit to feeling anything about anal sex...I would ask her am I hurting you?...and she would simply say NO.... go harder... while my wife reacted to anal sex as if she had never done it.... every girl has her own character
I think this is part of each person's individual personality.... especially porn actresses are very careful to emphasize the difference by exaggerating their moans and phrases.... while I repeat in the real world sometimes even to avoid being overheard by other house guests...we often tend to fuck in a way that doesn't make too much noise....

So the point is that each person has their own personality... and anal sex is an unnatural way of having sex... for some women it might be humiliating, in any case the asshole is made for getting things out not in... ;) it can be painful een for girls that have done anal many times (some girl said me that if you do anal sex often can be more painful ... can depend by nany different things...
if you do too much exercize your muscles become sore
To clarify now I personal prefer to have only vaginal sex with girls bc it is more “poetic/romantic”...
..I admit that in porn it can be exciting to watch a woman have anal sex, but in reality I have learned that to do this she has to prepare herself well by cleansing with a good enema before doing it.... this fact reduces the poetic atmosphere and spontaneity if you are with your girlfriend, by making the sexual intercourse mechanical and professional..
Spontaneity is very important in sex with your wife...

it's another thing if you choose to have sex with professional escorts who always well prepared for anal and more, but I don't have to be the one to tell them that I want to have anal sex because the girls I pay already know how to be getting ready... and most importantly, you will never smell a bad smell of shit when you pay for fancy prostitutes... they are the same as the porn actresses.

Fortunately, we are talking about 3d models here...but I disagree with Zara's point of view
she write nonsense in this argument!!!

This game is perfect as it is!
We are talking about scenes in porno game... Victoria behaviour during sex scenes is perfect since the beginning!
I really hope that Victoria will never become a broken ass-old-whore who doesn't react when they stick cocks and whole arms into her asshole as if by now her anus is completely prolapsed...

What I read in Zara's post seemed very insulting to me towards this beautiful 3D model called Victoria Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 14.21.22.jpg
This is a classy woman and it is precisely the contrast with her class and purity in always finding it amazing to have sex as if it were the first time that makes Victoria's personality irresistibly attractive
So Zara complaining about Vic's behavior during anal sex (whether it is the first or the tenth time) in my opinion is senseless!.... This is Vic's personality.... not that of a prolapsed bagasse old whore.

I never complain on MC personality in the game i love!!!
I don't like games where the MC has multiple personalities depending on the player's choices. these MCs are just schizophrenic!:cool:

PS; then to be clear before you get to have a prolapsed anus do you know how much pain you have to endure?...go to onlyfans there are girls who tell of the pain they have felt and continue to feel when they insert monstrous dildos in their ass.... and they have to rest for weeks and months if they overdo it
 
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What should Victoria do? Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:
...Do you think the scene would become better that way?
I'm sorry, but I disagree with ZARA!
The sex scenes in this game are top quality... full of details, different camera angles.... they are long to the perfect length, and include very hot dialogues...
I know girls who do the same when they have anal sex.... I don't agree when people complain about the MC's personality.

In the past I had anal sex with my first girlfriend who would not admit to feeling anything about anal sex...I would ask her am I hurting you?...and she would simply say NO.... go harder... while my wife reacted to anal sex as if she had never done it.... every girl has her own character
I think this is part of each person's individual personality.... especially porn actresses are very careful to emphasize the difference by exaggerating their moans and phrases.... while I repeat in the real world sometimes even to avoid being overheard by other house guests...we often tend to fuck in a way that doesn't make too much noise....

So the point is that each person has their own personality... and anal sex is an unnatural way of having sex... for some women it might be humiliating, in any case the asshole is made for getting things out not in... ;) it can be painful een for girls that have done anal many times (some girl said me that if you do anal sex often can be more painful ... can depend by nany different things...
if you do too much exercize your muscles become sore
To clarify now I personal prefer to have only vaginal sex with girls bc it is more “poetic/romantic”...
..I admit that in porn it can be exciting to watch a woman have anal sex, but in reality I have learned that to do this she has to prepare herself well by cleansing with a good enema before doing it.... this fact reduces the poetic atmosphere and spontaneity if you are with your girlfriend, by making the sexual intercourse mechanical and professional..
Spontaneity is very important in sex with your wife...

it's another thing if you choose to have sex with professional escorts who always well prepared for anal and more, but I don't have to be the one to tell them that I want to have anal sex because the girls I pay already know how to be getting ready... and most importantly, you will never smell a bad smell of shit when you pay for fancy prostitutes... they are the same as the porn actresses.

Fortunately, we are talking about 3d models here...but I disagree with Zara's point of view
she write nonsense in this argument!!!

This game is perfect as it is!
We are talking about scenes in porno game... Victoria behaviour during sex scenes is perfect since the beginning!
I really hope that Victoria will never become a broken ass-old-whore who doesn't react when they stick cocks and whole arms into her asshole as if by now her anus is completely prolapsed...

What I read in Zara's post seemed very insulting to me towards this beautiful 3D model called Victoria View attachment 4692502
This is a classy woman and it is precisely the contrast with her class and purity in always finding it amazing to have sex as if it were the first time that makes Victoria's personality irresistibly attractive
So Zara complaining about Vic's behavior during anal sex (whether it is the first or the tenth time) in my opinion is senseless!.... This is Vic's personality.... not that of a prolapsed bagasse old whore.

I never complain on MC personality in the game i love!!!
I don't like games where the MC has multiple personalities depending on the player's choices. these MCs are just schizophrenic!:cool:

PS; then to be clear before you get to have a prolapsed anus do you know how much pain you have to endure?...go to onlyfans there are girls who tell of the pain they have felt and continue to feel when they insert monstrous dildos in their ass.... and they have to rest for weeks and months if they overdo it
Wow, that was quite a monologue. But you’re missing the point entirely. Nobody is saying that Victoria should act like a „broken ass-old-whore” (your words, not mine). Zara simply pointed out a continuity issue in the game’s script.

Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, later at his club, and with Ben after the theater night). Yet, in this scene, she reacts as if it’s her first time ever. That’s a storytelling inconsistency, not a question of whether every woman reacts the same way to anal.

You went on a tangent about real-life experiences, escorts, and „romantic” sex, which are completely irrelevant to the discussion. This is about in-game character consistency, not personal preferences or real-life comparisons.

You may love the game as it is, and that’s fine. But pointing out a narrative inconsistency isn’t „nonsense” – it’s just discussing the writing quality. No need to get so defensive.
 

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Wow, that was quite a monologue. But you’re missing the point entirely. Nobody is saying that Victoria should act like a „broken ass-old-whore” (your words, not mine). Zara simply pointed out a continuity issue in the game’s script.

Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, later at his club, and with Ben after the theater night). Yet, in this scene, she reacts as if it’s her first time ever. That’s a storytelling inconsistency, not a question of whether every woman reacts the same way to anal.

You went on a tangent about real-life experiences, escorts, and „romantic” sex, which are completely irrelevant to the discussion. This is about in-game character consistency, not personal preferences or real-life comparisons.

You may love the game as it is, and that’s fine. But pointing out a narrative inconsistency isn’t „nonsense” – it’s just discussing the writing quality. No need to get so defensive.
Agreed. Zara shared her own experiences and she just compared it with Victoria thus how the writing is strange, but it's interesting how he thinks he knows a woman's body better then a woman herself.
 

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that was quite a monologue. But you’re missing the point entirely. Nobody is saying that Victoria should act like a „broken ass-old-whore”
I said this and i confirm... ... but here is the Zara sentence
as you can see she talks about pain as if after having sex 4 times, Victoria has to pose as an anal slut.
this is not only offensive to a woman but it is false....
pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation!
And it's like she doesn't realise that the pain can turn to pleasure. When she's already experienced that several times already. I brought these points up in the past to the Dev, and it's disappointing that he still hasn't changed these anal scenes to reflect Victoria's previous experiences
pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation! (As in the case of a poker room in front of strangers.)
in the experience of a female friend of mine with whom I had anal sex...if the size of the object you insert causes pain...the pain continues also in other times...of course pain is also pleasure but...what you think during penetration is always the same... is fear mixed with pain and pleasure.

tell me then. suggest how Vic should behave--too easy to complain.... come on give me an example of what Victoria should say for the scene can be even more exciting
 

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he knows a woman's body better then a woman herself.
I know my wife... and the girls I had in my past!
Have you ever talked about sex with your woman?
it's just that every woman has her own personality-every person is different and reacts differently
Victoria has a very specific personality
 

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I said this and i confirm... ... but here is the Zara sentence
as you can see she talks about pain as if after having sex 4 times, Victoria has to pose as an anal slut.
this is not only offensive to a woman but it is false....
pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation!

pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation! (As in the case of a poker room in front of strangers.)
in the experience of a female friend of mine with whom I had anal sex...if the size of the object you insert causes pain...the pain continues also in other times...of course pain is also pleasure but...what you think during penetration is always the same... is fear mixed with pain and pleasure.

tell me then. suggest how Vic should behave--too easy to complain.... come on give me an example of what Victoria should say for the scene can be even more exciting
You keep missing the point. Zara never said Victoria should act like an "anal slut" (your words, not hers). The issue is that her behavior contradicts her past experiences. Victoria had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene, yet every time she acts as if it's her first. That’s a lack of logical continuity, not a matter of pain always being present.

You keep talking about real-life experiences, but this is a VN. And in a VN, character consistency matters. You even said, "I don’t agree when people complain about the MC's personality," which makes no sense in this genre. The whole point of a VN is to connect with the characters, and that’s only possible if they have well-written and coherent personalities. If Victoria’s reactions ignore her past experiences, it breaks immersion.

And no, it's not up to players to rewrite the scenes. A single line of dialogue could have fixed this inconsistency. Something like: "I know what to expect, but it still feels so intense." Instead, the game treats it like it's her first time over and over again, which makes no sense.

So no, the complaint isn’t "nonsense"—it’s basic storytelling logic.
 

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Hope we can back to talk about the game avoiding stupid PT
every girl is different. some like it, some don't ;) i rather peg a guy in the ass, than take one back there ever again. i prefer vaginal :p
I'm over 50... so... now I prefer vagina... I already explain why in my previous post

thanks to be interested in me...

but stop with this stupid OT..
I said my opinion about Zara and the pain during anal sex even it was not the first time...
The way Vic acts is very attractive and changing it would not improve that scene.

But back to the game

I would really like to make a request to GrooversGames
Every time I see her I am undecided which one is the most beautiful Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 16.24.41.jpg

is Katy better than Victoria?
I really hope that in the next update Victoria will go with Katy during the filming of one of her porn movies.... I can't wait for Victoria to talk to Katy about the porn world
You keep missing the point. Zara never said Victoria should act like an "anal slut" (your words, not hers). The issue is that her behavior contradicts her past experiences. Victoria had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene, yet every time she acts as if it's her first. That’s a lack of logical continuity, not a matter of pain always being present.
I'm not missing a shit!!! please stop or I have to put you in my black list

I don't see any lack of logic
Excuse me , I understand that you are defending Zara... but she said bullshit in that sentence I quoted... you are continuing an unnecessary war... because.... what should Victoria say?
Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:

should she say all the names of the men she had anal sex with?
We players know this but there is no way that a girl who has never had sex with people in the poker scene should act like someone who habitually has anal sex
She is working as waitress for the first time for men and.. they are perfect strangers
that would be totally illogical
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I told you what the scene would look like

Here I will post some pics from the Poker scene...
I do not see nothing out of logic in Victoria dialogues

In this scene she has sex with strangers for the first time....
what Zara said in her post makes no sense!!!

SHE IS HAVING SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH TONY AND OTHER POCKER PLAYERS
just before Vic had sex in the bathroom...what was she supposed to say.... PUT DICKS IN MY ASS?

Vic is not A porn start (YET) the dialogues are perfect Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.04.38.jpg Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.05.52.jpg
AND KELLY is a porn star and act like Victoria? you never see Kelly how you can say that she has never be fucked in the ass? Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.07.10.jpg Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.15.59.jpg
Victoria is perfect with her personality!!! Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.10.57.jpg Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.17.01.jpg
I'm sorry for you and Zara but this scene is perfect and fits with the personality of Victoria...
She is having that experience for the first time!!!

she is watching her colleague Kelly's double penetration for the first time
what should she do? Behave like as a porno actress?

She is not yet...

Zara post has no sense!! Victoria has a pudic personality and she has Lucas as her boyfriend!
She will not change her prudish so easily... it is too soon in any case
She will be forever prudish, especially when she meets new men for the first time!
 
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Hope we can back to talk about the game avoiding stupid PT

I'm over 50... so... now I prefer vagina... I already explain why in my previous post

thanks to be interested in me...

but stop with this stupid OT..
I said my opinion about Zara and the pain during anal sex even it was not the first time...
The way Vic acts is very attractive and changing it would not improve that scene.

But back to the game

I would really like to make a request to GrooversGames
Every time I see her I am undecided which one is the most beautiful View attachment 4692820

is Katy better than Victoria?
I really hope that in the next update Victoria will go with Katy during the filming of one of her porn movies.... I can't wait for Victoria to talk to Katy about the porn world

I'm not missing a shit!!! please stop or I have to put you in my black list

I don't see any lack of logic
Excuse me , I understand that you are defending Zara... but she said bullshit in that sentence I quoted... you are continuing an unnecessary war... because.... what should Victoria say?
Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:

should she say all the names of the men she had anal sex with?
We players know this but there is no way that a girl who has never had sex with people in the poker scene should act like someone who habitually has anal sex
She is working as waitress for the first time for men and.. they are perfect strangers
that would be totally illogical
------
I told you what the scene would look like

Here I will post some pics from the Poker scene...
I do not see nothing out of logic in Victoria dialogues

In this scene she has sex with strangers for the first time....
what Zara said in her post makes no sense!!!

SHE IS HAVING SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH TONY AND OTHER POCKER PLAYERS
just before Vic had sex in the bathroom...what was she supposed to say.... PUT DICKS IN MY ASS?




I'm sorry for you and Zara but this scene is perfect and fits with the personality of Victoria...
She is having that experience for the first time!!!

she is watching her colleague Kelly's double penetration for the first time
what should she do? Behave like as a porno actress?

She is not yet...

Zara post has no sense!! Victoria has a pudic personality and she has Lucas as her boyfriend!
She will not change her prudish so easily... it is too soon in any case
She will be forever prudish, especially when she meets new men for the first time!
You're still missing the point. No one is saying that Victoria should suddenly start talking like a pornstar or listing the names of the men she had anal sex with. That's just a strawman argument you're making.

Also, let’s be clear—I’m not "defending" Zara just for the sake of it. I don’t know her, and I don’t need to defend her. The point is, her argument actually makes sense and is based on logic. Whether I agree with her on everything is another matter, but in this case, she is absolutely right.

Zara’s point was simple: Victoria already had anal sex multiple times before. That means her body and mind should not react as if it's her very first time ever. Of course, the situation is new, but that doesn’t reset her past experiences. You yourself wrote, "pain is always felt during insertion, but it depends on the situation and muscle tension." That’s exactly why her reactions should evolve – her body should remember previous experiences, just like in real life.

And regarding your other statement: "I don’t agree when people complain about the MC's personality." This is a Visual Novel. The MC’s personality is one of the most important aspects of the story. If something feels inconsistent, players will naturally notice it.

Also, calling Victoria "prudish" doesn’t make sense when she’s already had multiple anal experiences in a short time. A prudish person wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. So which is it? Either she’s inexperienced and naive, or she’s already experimenting with different things. You can’t have it both ways.

You keep saying that everything is "perfect" and there’s "nothing out of logic," but you ignore the actual criticism and just repeat the same points over and over.
 

Maviarab

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You're still missing the point. No one is saying that Victoria should suddenly start talking like a pornstar or listing the names of the men she had anal sex with. That's just a strawman argument you're making.

Also, let’s be clear—I’m not "defending" Zara just for the sake of it. I don’t know her, and I don’t need to defend her. The point is, her argument actually makes sense and is based on logic. Whether I agree with her on everything is another matter, but in this case, she is absolutely right.

Zara’s point was simple: Victoria already had anal sex multiple times before. That means her body and mind should not react as if it's her very first time ever. Of course, the situation is new, but that doesn’t reset her past experiences. You yourself wrote, "pain is always felt during insertion, but it depends on the situation and muscle tension." That’s exactly why her reactions should evolve – her body should remember previous experiences, just like in real life.

And regarding your other statement: "I don’t agree when people complain about the MC's personality." This is a Visual Novel. The MC’s personality is one of the most important aspects of the story. If something feels inconsistent, players will naturally notice it.

Also, calling Victoria "prudish" doesn’t make sense when she’s already had multiple anal experiences in a short time. A prudish person wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. So which is it? Either she’s inexperienced and naive, or she’s already experimenting with different things. You can’t have it both ways.

You keep saying that everything is "perfect" and there’s "nothing out of logic," but you ignore the actual criticism and just repeat the same points over and over.
Seriously dude...do yourself a favour and walk away now....
 
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