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It's certainly fun to play as someone who is the total opposite of you, kinda like your alter ego.
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Personally, I'm hoping once hair dying, piercings, and slutty outfits are unlocked, the game gives players options to choose from.Every person has a dark side, me too, You are right, Dev wants to push people's sentiments.
I pray for her, but I want to see her blonde, tatooed, pierced, while she smokes cigarettes. I'm a bad person
The blonde hair, septum ring, and pink outfit from the banner are okay, but I'd rather pick my own look for Lily.
I feel with both of you. I would even go so far that I think, without feeling sorry for her, corrupting her would not feel as good as it does. I mean, if you are seeing a bad person go down: So what. Ok, I am against the death penalty, but if a serial child murderer is killed, I can hardly resist to find it ok. But if a good guy is killed by bad guys, there are a lot emotions in me. And this also works with a good girl forced to be bad... but my emotions are not alone pity for her, but also arousel. There is something at stake - maybe this is part of the reason.
Do you really can do this? I mean totally opposite? I often try myself, but if the game is done good (meaning realistic with lovable characters and decisions that matter) I find it hard to go completely against my character, at least in the first play-thoughs. I can deviate a lot, maybe instead of going north, I go west or nothr-east, but almost never completely south.
Oh yeah, I liked that Bobby broke the "sexclub-trope". Not the boring: Go to the customers, they touch your legs, next day, they touch your boobs, and then... . Also the boss is not molesting her (yet).
The only thing I find not that perfect is is that she likes being toughed by the bar-guy. This is a little trope, but may be due to Patreon - you have to like the rape so that it is not forced
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All excellent points and well said. There has always been an evil side in me, I guess most of us are like that. But, now in my twilight years, it is totally under control. But, here on this site I can let it free and be as evil as I wish, without anybody getting hurt, which is wonderful. I can visit this realm of evil and corruption, incest, bestiality and anything else and then when I'm done, close my computer and become Clark Kent again. How wonderful can fantasy be? It's FREEDOM.I feel with both of you. I would even go so far that I think, without feeling sorry for her, corrupting her would not feel as good as it does. I mean, if you are seeing a bad person go down: So what. Ok, I am against the death penalty, but if a serial child murderer is killed, I can hardly resist to find it ok. But if a good guy is killed by bad guys, there are a lot emotions in me. And this also works with a good girl forced to be bad... but my emotions are not alone pity for her, but also arousel. There is something at stake - maybe this is part of the reason.
Do you really can do this? I mean totally opposite? I often try myself, but if the game is done good (meaning realistic with lovable characters and decisions that matter) I find it hard to go completely against my character, at least in the first play-thoughs. I can deviate a lot, maybe instead of going north, I go west or nothr-east, but almost never completely south.
Oh yeah, I liked that Bobby broke the "sexclub-trope". Not the boring: Go to the customers, they touch your legs, next day, they touch your boobs, and then... . Also the boss is not molesting her (yet).
The only thing I find not that perfect is is that she likes being toughed by the bar-guy. This is a little trope, but may be due to Patreon - you have to like the rape so that it is not forced
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Every person has a dark side, me too, You are right, Dev wants to push people's sentiments.
I pray for her, but I want to see her blonde, tatooed, pierced, while she smokes cigarettes. I'm a bad person
Awww, you Europeans, smokers!! Yucky, caca, pooh-pooh!!!! You got to get off that stuff. Cancer is a bitch!!!
Sorry, but not a good update.
1. No choices
2. The scene with jack while grabbing lillys butt felt weird since hes talking about how wet she is BUT only tuches her upper ass. So either hes talking about her ass sweat and licks it afterwards or his hand should be a lot lower to touch her pussy... but even then the scene would be weird since i highly doubt that lilly would allow it at her current stage.
1. No choices
2. The scene with jack while grabbing lillys butt felt weird since hes talking about how wet she is BUT only tuches her upper ass. So either hes talking about her ass sweat and licks it afterwards or his hand should be a lot lower to touch her pussy... but even then the scene would be weird since i highly doubt that lilly would allow it at her current stage.
I got the sense that Lilly wasn't allowing any of it but just accepted it as she didn't want to get fired or in trouble with her boss.
I do agree thought it was weird how the dialogue mentioned it was her pussy pretty much but looked like an ass grab.
i'm 50 / 50 on the no choices thing as I didn't mind it on my main save but on my second one yeah I didn't like it
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Thats also my opinion. It would be great if the developer would tell us the reason why he does not use Choices in this Update....but he went radio silent...
I mean...there were Choices in all of the previous Chapters.... Sometimes I don't understand what goes on in a developer's head 
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I've never understood the obsession with choices. Especially in this game, there is one main character and a straightforward plot. All previous choices here have not affected the story and have been cosmetic. Bloat the game with a bunch of choices and then wait half a year for updates until the developer puts it all together. These will either be small non-story-impacting choices, or the choices will increase the game's development time several times over. So, what's the point?Thats also my opinion. It would be great if the developer would tell us the reason why he does not use Choices in this Update....but he went radio silent...
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The words "kinetic" and "visual" have different meanings. They can't be contrasted because a kinetic novel is also a visual novel. The term "visual" has nothing to do with the choices.Choices are mandatory for a KN...otherwise you have a Kinetic Novel or a Comic. Visual novels thrive on the player's ability to shape the story and feel a sense of ownership over the narrative
Agreed. Even the description states that fact: "Lily will start as an innocent waitress in a cafe, and by the end of the story, she will be a stripper and a money-hungry prostitute in a local club."
There is a definitive start and finish that is planned, and I don't think there is going to be a virgin/pure route, unless it was planned from the beginning, which I don't remember Eromantis ever promising.
We'll just have to accept that Lily will do things that we won't have control over... and it's good that things are ramping up. It's about time we see some foreplay/softcore stuff. No one has even groped her yet.
While I don't like the no choice thing in this update it's also not a big deal for me as that's for my second save. For those that it is a big deal I can understand why because there is choices earlier where it is made to seem like we can play as a slut or pure and innocent and go against the design of the game. So I think if those choices never were there or were just different wouldn't be as a big deal for people that honestly don't like it the update because of it.
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True, but people don't understand main goal of this game and coming here whining and crying and trying to influence dev with stupid ideas, it's so fucking common on this site.. why they just don't move and play other games?Agreed. Even the description states that fact: "Lily will start as an innocent waitress in a cafe, and by the end of the story, she will be a stripper and a money-hungry prostitute in a local club."
There is a definitive start and finish that is planned, and I don't think there is going to be a virgin/pure route, unless it was planned from the beginning, which I don't remember Eromantis ever promising.
We'll just have to accept that Lily will do things that we won't have control over... and it's good that things are ramping up. It's about time we see some foreplay/softcore stuff. No one has even groped her yet.
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No no no, you are right, but the image of a whore IS always tied with a smockers.
I haven't played many games that give you choices that go against the main goal / idea of a game. Usually when I see such a choice I do make a 2nd save to go with that playstyle like a non slut one in this game just to see it. With that being said I do wish some devs wouldn't add choices that does go against the main theme to give a illusion there is a second optional path if it really isn't gonna be developed on much compared to the other. ( Not sure if that is the case in this one but ive seen it in a few games)
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I kind of hope if Susan lets Bobby out of the house one day he catches Lilly being a whore when we get to that point haha. I think it could be a fun little interesting scene if that ever happens haha
Wait, are we playing the same game? You can get blackmailed in the cafe, which has an impact later on for sure. Also the party time with the guys in the warehouse will surely influence what can happen in the future.
Besides this, that you dont "like" choice driven games is kind of a lost cause while beeing in a thread outside of a kinetic novel...
For me its the complete opposite. If i dont have any impact on the story, i could also watch porn or tv instead since its also kind of a kinetic visual "novel"...
To each their own i would say.