Unity Virt-A-Mate [v1.22.0.3] [Meshed VR]
Smopy
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I've been watching a lot of VaM related content recently and I got curious on how this thing works but a still have a lot of question about it, so if somebody that is knowledgeable enough to answer would be amazing:
1. How exactly does VaM performance? I've read some posts about the performance/FPS and is not great per say and my PC is kinda "old". I'm afraid I'm going to waste my time trying to run VaM. (Judging by what I see, VaM is probably CPU bound and RAM intensive, I'm unclear if GPU is something to worry about)
2. How much I have to worry about cache size? Again, from what I've seen, VaM consumes a lot of space, especially because of the cache size. My storage space is kinda limited and I really don't want to keep clearing the cache every time I do anything on it.
3. How bad is to the rabbit hole of dependencies in VaM? I saw that there are many dependencies that need more dependencies, just knowing that I got PTSD from modding Skyrim.
4. Just because I'm kind of paranoid, how safe is VaM or the Hub? I'm not familiar with VaM and the Hub so I don't know what is sus or safe to use, especially considering how many dependencies are needed, that goes for VaM as well.
And that's basically it, I know that I left little info on some parts just to make this as short as possible.
1. How exactly does VaM performance? I've read some posts about the performance/FPS and is not great per say and my PC is kinda "old". I'm afraid I'm going to waste my time trying to run VaM. (Judging by what I see, VaM is probably CPU bound and RAM intensive, I'm unclear if GPU is something to worry about)
2. How much I have to worry about cache size? Again, from what I've seen, VaM consumes a lot of space, especially because of the cache size. My storage space is kinda limited and I really don't want to keep clearing the cache every time I do anything on it.
3. How bad is to the rabbit hole of dependencies in VaM? I saw that there are many dependencies that need more dependencies, just knowing that I got PTSD from modding Skyrim.
4. Just because I'm kind of paranoid, how safe is VaM or the Hub? I'm not familiar with VaM and the Hub so I don't know what is sus or safe to use, especially considering how many dependencies are needed, that goes for VaM as well.
And that's basically it, I know that I left little info on some parts just to make this as short as possible.
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SpicyHotBeef
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1. Im running an i7 10700 with an RTX3080 10gb, 32gb of RAM and I get 70fps with 1 person in scene, 30fps with 2. That's with custom settings and a really small scene with basic light setup.
2. I'd suggest allocating 500gb for VaM. Currently at 300gb for the whole file size. Cache @ 100gb. You can clear it if you want, or delete looks and scenes that you don't use anymore.
3. Also had that dilemma when i started, it's not rly that confusing-the hub provides. (unless you don't get it there, and your sources are from creators in afdiian or arca.live). I keep track using folders inside AddonPackages so I don't get confused. Some provides all the dependencies, some don't. Up to you if you deem a var file with missing dependencies as usable or not.
4. Virus-wise? So far I don't get any sketchy files from the hub. I use the hub in the browser and inside VaM itself. Can't say the same for the ones on patreon, afdiian and arca.
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brasileirinho
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It can be really heavy, but you can limit a lot of GPU usage by lowering Hair physics and other stuff. But the CPU usage can't really be lowered, so that's why people say VAM is CPU bound. I strongly suggest to use Givemefps plugin and limit hair multiplier to something like 10~15, and increase hair width by 50% ~100% (width does not impact performance). I used to run vam on an RX570 1080p and got decent performance in some scenes.
Cache size is hard to say. If you always use the same stuff, it will be smaller. But expect more than 10GB. But you don't NEED cache, it just makes loading faster.
I don't usually have problems with dependencies. I mean, the lack of dependencies. My main problem is to find the unused stuff occupying space needlessly.
I'm gonna bet VAM is pretty safe. If it wasn't, someone would have already spotted it, and it would cause a major backlash.
Smopy
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Yes, I meant in terms of viruses, I'm not familiar with VaM or Hub so I don't know how heavily moderated the Hub is to not let some weird dependency or sketchy file pass. All I know about VaM is from the videos made on it, that's why I'm asking if is safe (VaM itself and the Hub), it's probably me being super paranoid about this kinda of stuff cuz I know little about this project.
oof yeah I don't think I'll be able to run VaM smoothly then, unfortunally I still daily use a i5-7400 (maybe the CPU will be fine), 1050Ti (which is worse than the RX570) and 16GB
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Tomboy Enjoyer
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It depends, if you use VR or Desktop Mode. Desktop performes WAY better than VR.
Iam running a Ryzen 5 5600 overclocked to the brim and a GTX 1080ti also overclocked. I prefer 1080p.
Tbh load times are the real Issue.
My VaM (around 150GB) is placed on a M2 SSD with 3GB/s speed read and write (I know there are better ones) but some scenes take minutes to load. I only have 16GB of RAM so I tweaked the pagefile abit. VaM never crashed since then.
I also extended the gpu timeout time with regedit to give VaM more time to cache the textures otherwise it often crashes when loading 4k or 8k body textures.
Also you can tweak the GPU settings in windows for example for nvidia, force VaM to NOT use power saving mode, set anistrophic filtering for VaM to "high performance" and so on.
I also finetuned and debloated my windows installation as good as I could to let the operating system draws as less memory, CPU and GPU ussage as possible.
In VR (depends on the scene of course) ussually I get 50-60fps in a 2 Person scene. 3some scenes are playable as well in VR with 30-40 FPS. (Tbh those "low" FPS are not THAT bad when playing in VR) I often use only 1 or 2 light sources.
I leave soft body physics set to off, because it draws ALOT of CPU. High quality physics are just fine Imo.
Desktop FPS are usually between 60-100 (Also depending on the scene!)
Hair is the real FPS killer in VaM. Body hair, and especially complex long women hair.
My fps are dropping below 20 when a character has long 4k hair. Toning the hair physics down per hair Preset or replacing it + removing male hair is always recommended. If you are playing in POV you dont need male hair anyways.
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I have a BJ scene, which contains a chair(a furniture atom), a guy(an atom), sitting on that chair, a girl(an atom), doing a BJ for the guy, and a few clicking buttons(right next to them). One button is cumshot button and another button is Clean-up button. So, either of those two buttons can be clicked by moving a mouse cursor right on them and making a left-mouse-click.
Question: is there any plugin existing for VAM that would allow to do the following: instead of moving a mouse cursor right on the button to making a left-mouse-click on it, instead to bind that action to a particular keyboard key, for example a 'spacebar' key. So, instead of moving a mouse cursor right on a button(Atom) and make a left-mouse-click, I could just press spacebar on my keyboard and it would do the same. So the Button(atom) in the Scene(Cumshot button, for example), would no longer be needed to be clicked(or triggered) only just by the mouse, but also by 'spacebar' key (on the keyboard). I hope my question is quite clear
Is there any plugin that would allow doing that???
Question: is there any plugin existing for VAM that would allow to do the following: instead of moving a mouse cursor right on the button to making a left-mouse-click on it, instead to bind that action to a particular keyboard key, for example a 'spacebar' key. So, instead of moving a mouse cursor right on a button(Atom) and make a left-mouse-click, I could just press spacebar on my keyboard and it would do the same. So the Button(atom) in the Scene(Cumshot button, for example), would no longer be needed to be clicked(or triggered) only just by the mouse, but also by 'spacebar' key (on the keyboard). I hope my question is quite clear
Is there any plugin that would allow doing that???
I have a similiar setup, same Ryzen and RAM. How have you adjusted the pagefile?
VaM has a desktop mode. It's actually been around for a while, but I've been using it for so long I don't actually know how well that option is advertised.
theMickey_
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I'm not sure where this "VR only" comes from, because since I use VaM (has been 5-6 years at least, I started with version 1.5 or so...) it always had a Desktop mode. That being said -- the real beauty of VaM is the VR part of it ;-)
Coincidentally, 1.5 is when desktop mode was added (as an alpha feature according to the patreon).
Tomboy Enjoyer
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If you set it like this, windows does NOT start with a small pagefile and extend it more and more which also draws quite alot of CPU. I don't like having the pagefile on the system partition.
Also check your autostart with CCleaner (free version is more than enough). There are alot of hidden shit like msedge update and unessesary shit which always runs in the background. You can permanently delete alot of system apps with Revo uninstaller as well if you are planning to use as much resources for VaM as possible. It also helps in all games you play btw.
It does quite make a difference. Skyrim with +600 mods for example does not crash anymore with the adjusted pagefile.
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evaw
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Mine is 12gb.. so you mean set the page file to a smaller size helps with performance?
Tomboy Enjoyer
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Maybe it speeds up the loading times abit if you only have 16GB of ram. The main reason is, to let VaM use as much RAM as needed to prevent crashes. It's not the ultimate solution but it helps.
Maybe the RAM consumtion will be lower when VaM 2.0 is released.
For performance, you can tweak the nvidia settings and disable any background recording crap like gamebar and or shadowplay. It gives a 5-15fps performance boost depending on your hardware.
guys, need some help.
downloaded this cloth from kemono and it has a lot of customized variations. But every variation that I click doesnt work.
erros like:
!> Error during texture load: Path Custom/Clothing/Shared/FreePacks/pixabay/polka-dots-2811537_1920 BW.jpg is not valid
!> Error during texture load: Path Custom/Clothing/Shared/FreePacks/pixabay/polka-dots-2811537_1920 BW.jpg is not valid
does anyone here have this cloth without erros or knows how to fix it?
downloaded this cloth from kemono and it has a lot of customized variations. But every variation that I click doesnt work.
erros like:
!> Error during texture load: Path Custom/Clothing/Shared/FreePacks/pixabay/polka-dots-2811537_1920 BW.jpg is not valid
!> Error during texture load: Path Custom/Clothing/Shared/FreePacks/pixabay/polka-dots-2811537_1920 BW.jpg is not valid
does anyone here have this cloth without erros or knows how to fix it?
someone here asked same question on the hub ,Acid bubbles keybindings pluginI have a BJ scene, which contains a chair(a furniture atom), a guy(an atom), sitting on that chair, a girl(an atom), doing a BJ for the guy, and a few clicking buttons(right next to them). One button is cumshot button and another button is Clean-up button. So, either of those two buttons can be clicked by moving a mouse cursor right on them and making a left-mouse-click.
Question: is there any plugin existing for VAM that would allow to do the following: instead of moving a mouse cursor right on the button to making a left-mouse-click on it, instead to bind that action to a particular keyboard key, for example a 'spacebar' key. So, instead of moving a mouse cursor right on a button(Atom) and make a left-mouse-click, I could just press spacebar on my keyboard and it would do the same. So the Button(atom) in the Scene(Cumshot button, for example), would no longer be needed to be clicked(or triggered) only just by the mouse, but also by 'spacebar' key (on the keyboard). I hope my question is quite clear
Is there any plugin that would allow doing that???
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