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Are the updates very short or I'm doing something wrong ? Is there any content that I'm missing after the bathhouse scene ?
- Aug 5, 2017
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Not fond of the idea of 'free roam', but if you decide to keep this form then take notes from Long Live The Princess, keep it simple and don't add billions of locations or buttons you need to click to navigate to other rooms, locations or whatever. For example, navigating the castle was already a bit confusing since the game doesn't tell you where you will be going when you hover the mouse over one of the many buttons.
Again, referring Long Live The Princess, keep the insides of buildings simple by adding a easy to navigate menu which highlights all the rooms or other locations/actions you could visit/perform with one click of the mouse. See screenshots:
A part of a clear map to navigate to other locations within a city:
And once more another easy to use map to navigate the wilderness:
I hope these examples can give you some ideas that you could work out so the game would be smooth sailing even with a added free roam element.
Also, Morrigan is totally a babe, loved the new scenes with her! Keep up the good work!
Again, referring Long Live The Princess, keep the insides of buildings simple by adding a easy to navigate menu which highlights all the rooms or other locations/actions you could visit/perform with one click of the mouse. See screenshots:
A part of a clear map to navigate to other locations within a city:
And once more another easy to use map to navigate the wilderness:
I hope these examples can give you some ideas that you could work out so the game would be smooth sailing even with a added free roam element.
Also, Morrigan is totally a babe, loved the new scenes with her! Keep up the good work!
- Jun 9, 2018
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DAM! This was such a good game. Free roam just ruins it completely. Having to search for content is never good. When you get your partner all hot n ready, do you then go hide in your neighbors house and then tell your partner to search for you throughout the neighborhood so they can bang you? I'm trying not to be rude and saying F u Dev but.. I hope for the best with this game.
- May 10, 2018
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game style shift midgame is quickest way to kill the flow and chase folks off that played the game because of how it was...this will be a delete most likely..i'll give it a try..BUT..i've seen this happen before and it killed other games..only saw one switch back after the dev got the message he fucked up..so..like i said..i'll try it..but past experience dosnt make me feel good about this.
- Mar 8, 2019
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I agree with the dev's free roam decision.
Why?
Because he added choices with Love/seduction/etc stats which lack enough choices to adequately expand upon with a respectable reward/punishment (have enough)/(not enough) system. Here we can grind stats properly.
It'll also give us a chance to explore the castle, and while that's nice... I seriously need to stress to the dev: give us a map of some kind. Don't let us wander aimlessly till we find something. The current click to go to that room over there is just awful as it leads to us not knowing the ideal path to the location.
The renders are solid and the story is deeper than the Marianna Trench. The characters are both likeable and their expositions are interesting.
This guy is making art at this point, not porn.
Why?
Because he added choices with Love/seduction/etc stats which lack enough choices to adequately expand upon with a respectable reward/punishment (have enough)/(not enough) system. Here we can grind stats properly.
It'll also give us a chance to explore the castle, and while that's nice... I seriously need to stress to the dev: give us a map of some kind. Don't let us wander aimlessly till we find something. The current click to go to that room over there is just awful as it leads to us not knowing the ideal path to the location.
The renders are solid and the story is deeper than the Marianna Trench. The characters are both likeable and their expositions are interesting.
This guy is making art at this point, not porn.
- Nov 18, 2018
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Man, is it me or does the majority of the sex he has happen off screen with these supposed "whores" he keeps banging?
One thing I don't like about this game are the time skips and the missing information. Like, last I knew Anete was saved from the witch, now suddenly she's dying? The fuck happened in the in between time?
One thing I don't like about this game are the time skips and the missing information. Like, last I knew Anete was saved from the witch, now suddenly she's dying? The fuck happened in the in between time?
- Jun 21, 2017
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the real reason most hate free raom is that they cant rush thru to sex areas. if the maker wants to do free roam let them its their game and their vision.
- Nov 18, 2018
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Free Roam is one of those things that needs to happen from the start of the game, not the middle. Look at the utter abomination that is Indecent Desires. That dev has fucked his game up so bad he's tried to rework the free roam 3 times and has made no progress on the game.
The system you had in place was working fine. Honestly Freeroam should be limited to Unity and RPGM games and should stay out of Ren'py except in limited quantities. It should by no means be something that is going to be used a lot in the game.
The system you had in place was working fine. Honestly Freeroam should be limited to Unity and RPGM games and should stay out of Ren'py except in limited quantities. It should by no means be something that is going to be used a lot in the game.
- Aug 21, 2018
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Free roam is no art. There is not a single (okay, maybe 1-2) game out there where free roam adds ANYTHING fun to a game.
And I dont get your point with the stats ... there is NEVER a good reason to grind stats. Just decisions you can give enough "stats"/points whatever to give the player the freedom he needs. There are enough good games out there that show how much diversity is possible (e.g. Good Girl gone Bad) with a pure VN.
Grinding stats is just easier and you can stretch your game a lot without much effort.
In the end everyone will just use console to skip the grind and maybe, then something will break or content is skipped.
90% of all free roam games are just pure linear games where you have to trigger the events in the correct order. The "free" in free-roam is just an illusion ...
- Jun 9, 2018
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Dam straight. I don't like scene repeats. I HATE grind. This is what turns me off completely. You got me invested with the story in the VN style. That cliff hanger kept me with anticipation for the next update. Then you just say screw you to us "here's a free roam update, go find the content your dam selves"
Even if you started your game as a free roam grind fest, I doubt you'd have as many patreon backers as you do now. I'll admit I would've just skipped it as well.
The game started off so great.
- Nov 20, 2018
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OK, I have confirmed that no one's reported this yet, APD13. It's not a big bug at all, but I figured you should know. After refusing to give in to Morrígan, she's looking under his bed at all the dirt and everything. Meanwhile, Aelric is thinking about her willfulness, etc., and there's a single card of dialogue that reads, "line_room_morr_tease_01 =" followed by his thoughts. Just thought you should know. 
- Nov 20, 2018
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CookieMonster666 but i can't find her. or i'm missing the yard.. i checked all the places and didn't find her..
Hi mates,
I've read all your comments regarding free roaming and let's open a bottle of beer while we talk
First of all, it is beta and there are things to be implemented in the future for the free roaming.
Why did I've to implement the free roaming feature? First of all, I was thinking that in the future, the players can interact with other characters and enjoy some scenes as much as they want. So after the update is gone, a user can replay the game just to interact with his or her favorite character. In the current state, if you finish the update, I don't know if there is any reason to open the game the second time until the next update comes.
So I had in mind to create an environment where the player can enjoy it's favorite characters at any time, in actions that would be available only through free roaming. I only want to create an experience that will not end with an update.
I've read that there are opinions that this update is short. The script had around 36 pages. When developing a game with multiple choices, the work is doubled but you have to do it, for the user to choose the path he/she wants to go.
I've read all your comments regarding free roaming and let's open a bottle of beer while we talk
First of all, it is beta and there are things to be implemented in the future for the free roaming.
Why did I've to implement the free roaming feature? First of all, I was thinking that in the future, the players can interact with other characters and enjoy some scenes as much as they want. So after the update is gone, a user can replay the game just to interact with his or her favorite character. In the current state, if you finish the update, I don't know if there is any reason to open the game the second time until the next update comes.
So I had in mind to create an environment where the player can enjoy it's favorite characters at any time, in actions that would be available only through free roaming. I only want to create an experience that will not end with an update.
I've read that there are opinions that this update is short. The script had around 36 pages. When developing a game with multiple choices, the work is doubled but you have to do it, for the user to choose the path he/she wants to go.
- Nov 20, 2018
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OK, I've attached screenshots, because one of the targets you're supposed to click is a bit hard to notice at first. It's also slightly easier just to show rather than to describe where you need to click. This is the series of clicks you'll need to get to her again (in the bath).
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