Ren'Py Abandoned What a Legend! [v0.6.02] [MagicNuts]

[elbo911]

Hi whichone, I taught you put me on your ignore list. Anyway I still think breaking an extra large update into 2 large updates is a better system then just continuing on, over a year with just a single update.

I still think the world would be a better place if there was only sausage with cheese in it. But hey, what can you do? And also, who besides me even cares?

 

[bingolebongo]

Patrons chose to have updates done this way.

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.

Longer updates + life changing events + risk of project gets abandoned for various reasons = you thought this will go smoothly?

If I had half of your optimism I would joyfully run through life, completely oblivious to everything but happy at the same time.

 

[whichone]

I'm not really sure I agree here. When patreons were asked, I don't think anyone expected updates this long - least of all MagicNuts themselves. I voted for longer updates, but given the choice again, I'd probably vote for a shorter one if this is the alternative.

That's not bashing the developers – you know I'm on the same side of the argument in this thread and I've argued time and again that their reasons for the delays are reasonable. I just think that vote was made under circumstances that aren't 100 % valid for the discussion any longer.

To be fair & correct, this is not "the alternative", it's an exception. There's a vast difference.

Hence referencing them having a new child & 2 separate operations. Those 3 events inevitably added considerable time to an update that was already projected to be the largest they've done yet, so would've naturally taken longer than previous updates.
Plus new child, plus 2 spells out of action.

Most rational people can understand why it's taken longer.

 

[ogapetape]

This Vs. Summertime Saga which will makes their update first lol

The race is on!

 

[FreelancerFL]

But with this speed, we might be Q3/4 of 2024. It better be a huge update...

And the next update I want to see unicorns and mermaids...

I just wanna smash the orc chick in the prison, is that too much to ask for?

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

I just wanna smash the orc chick in the prison, is that too much to ask for?

Well she already escaped, she is in the whorehouse...

Well you probably could go to the whorehouse to smash her.... in the next episode...

If that ever gets finished....

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

"With this speed" it went from being 91.5%, on 28th Dec, to being 92.2%, on 31st Dec.
That means it took 3 days for a 0.7% total increase.
There is 7.8% remaining. If it continues "with this speed", it would take circa 34 days.
Give it a couple of months, it should be close.

They stated a few times that this is the largest update they've done, yet. Given that the previous ones have all been a decent size, I see no cause for alarm.

Yeh I wasn't talking about 91.5 % on 28dec, I posted 91.5% like 2-3 weeks back... So that's a much slower progress...

 

[whichone]

I posted 91.5% like 2-3 weeks back...

You really did not.
Exactly 3 weeks ago, 10th Dec, it was 90.2%.

Spoiler: 10th Dec

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5 days later, 15th Dec, it was 90.7%.
That's "2-3 weeks back". Today, it's 92.2%
2% total increase over the last 3 weeks, with 7.8% remaining.

Gives an estimate of 12 weeks from now, "with this speed".
Not Q3/4. That's a bit needlessly dramatic.

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

You really did not.
Exactly 3 weeks ago, 10th Dec, it was 90.2%.
5 days later, 15th Dec, it was 90.7%.
That's "2-3 weeks back". Today, it's 92.2%
2% total increase over the last 3 weeks, with 7.8% remaining.

Gives an estimate of 12 weeks from now, "with this speed".
Not Q3/4. That's a bit needlessly dramatic.

I hope you are right, it was my previous account where I posted, that some admin squandered again.

 

[whichone]

I hope you are right, it was my previous account where I posted, that some admin squandered again.

Just a rough ballpark mate.
Don't forget, testing can throw up quite a lot of additional work, so that could easily be extended, or shortened.
Consider it all pie in the sky, until it's actually here.

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

Just a rough ballpark mate.
Don't forget, testing can throw up quite a lot of additional work, so that could easily be extended, or shortened.
Consider it all pie in the sky, until it's actually here.

Yeh it's abandon until it's not. Then we get a few months of rest, and people start complaining about it again. I hope quicker. And I hope the next update will be a bit quicker...

 

[whichone]

Yeh it's abandon until it's not. Then we get a few months of rest, and people start complaining about it again. I hope quicker. And I hope the next update will be a bit quicker...

I think everyone hopes for the same, MagicNuts included!
To be fair, given the 3 major events they had, even with another child to take care of, Pistachio not being hospitalised twice & Chestnut also not needing time out to give birth, I think it's a fair to expect the next update to be quicker.

 

[bingolebongo]

Longer updates + life changing events + risk of project gets abandoned for various reasons = you thought this will go smoothly?

If I had half of your optimism I would joyfully run through life, completely oblivious to everything but happy at the same time.

That's making quite a few condescending assumptions.

 

[ProfN42]

...I totally fell in love with Mirtle and Lana's story and I really liked Rose's content and I'm sure I'll love Gomira's too, plus I love orc girls.

Hard agree. Not quite sure I'm seeing the appeal of Gomira yet, but I love a nice "yandere gets worn down/broken down and finally shows a softer side" story. And I trust the Nuts, they've not missed yet - Myrtle, Lana, and Rose have each had wonderful romances with very different personalities. Though I hope we take a break from damsels in distress needing rescuing for a while - Gomira and Holly are tougher than Lassie!

The issue is less Gomira but more sustainability. MagicNuts have taken the path of character specific updates. Obviously some people will find certain characters divisive, such as Gomira. But with each update now taking 1+ years to complete how in hell is this game going to sustain this pace for the decade or so time it needs to finish? Surely interest will dry before then.

That is my big concern. Again I trust the Nuts to tell a great story with quality art. But if the patreon dries up altogether, will they give up bc they have to go back to their day jobs? I want the project to survive because I want to see the ending. And that means I want wise decisions to be made about project planning. I'm not sure putting that all up to a direct democracy vote for patrons is wisest. And as someone else in this thread pointed out, I'm not sure all the patrons would have voted for longer updates if they knew longer updates meant 19+ months.

I'm kinda disappointed when knew that my lovely Maple not get Dev. love this time (can't wait to choose to get her pregnant). But yes, you right all girl that we already make out with had an fantastic story and plot. So why don't give orc girl some love (and love juice of couse).

Finally, a fellow Best Tiny Girl lover! My hope is that not only will we get back "into" Maple, but that Lassie will gain a power from her to shrink down and be tiny, too. Onwards, mighty Fox steed!

A year and a half into development and they're running polls on new mockups and sketches for Gomiras outfits. It's absurd. Reports like that show they are very, very far from an update.

This just shows you don't understand their development process. Just because a girl's route is complete doesn't mean nothing will ever be added for her again. Myrtle has been complete for a long time but they have added new CG's of her as well as a threesome scene. Just because Gomira will soon be complete doesn't mean there'll never be anything new added for her. And once posing is complete, adding a new outfit isn't super complex. If Chestnut feels the creative juices flowing to make Gomira a leather domme outfit or a playboy bunny suit or some cupless fantasy armor, adding it into the game wouldn't be that hard. So you can cool your jets, you've found "proof" of nothing.

This Vs. Summertime Saga which will makes their update first lol

I mean, even if WAL 0.6 takes a bit longer than we hoped, it's still gonna eventually happen, whereas DarkCookie is obviously just scamming at this point. Unfair comparison.

I believe, if this update has taught us anything it's that magicnuts needs to plan how they release their future updates better.
After they've completed their initial planning and made an estimate on the amount of work required they should then make a call on if they should break their story into, 1 or more parts. While it's great getting a completed story arc. Waiting over a year is just bad project management in my opinion.

I would honestly rather they spend the first three entire months of the dev cycle posting nothing but "TBD" until they have a solid plan, before ever showing even a single % completion. Better that than a progress bar that might not represent true progress towards the final goal.

Well she already escaped, she is in the whorehouse...

While I would dearly love to see Best Big Girl Anne again, I have a strong feeling instead we're gonna be visiting the Melon Twins' Farm (they had fucking better be twins lol) to investigate the case of fresh produce mysteriously disappearing from their gardens, because a shadowy figure is lurking in the woods (or maybe the HowlCave?) and feeding herself by stealing from the farm... In the process, hopefully we will also have the chance to judge which sister's melons are best.

My reason for this guess is simply that they created the farm location in the last update but we never did anything there. If you ask me, that was a teaser for 0.6.

Can't wait!

 

[Deleted member 6820464]

While I would dearly love to see Best Big Girl Anne again, I have a strong feeling instead we're gonna be visiting the Melon Twins' Farm (they had fucking better be twins lol) to investigate the case of fresh produce mysteriously disappearing from their gardens, because a shadowy figure is lurking in the woods (or maybe the HowlCave?) and feeding herself by stealing from the farm... In the process, hopefully we will also have the chance to judge which sister's melons are best.

My reason for this guess is simply that they created the farm location in the last update but we never did anything there. If you ask me, that was a teaser for 0.6.

Can't wait!

I'm not sure if you are joking or serious. I never noticed that melon twins farm. But why not, I wouldn't mind. I really hope it's a big bigger than just fucking some green orc...

 

[DD_King]

You really did not.
Exactly 3 weeks ago, 10th Dec, it was 90.2%.

Spoiler: 10th Dec

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5 days later, 15th Dec, it was 90.7%.
That's "2-3 weeks back". Today, it's 92.2%
2% total increase over the last 3 weeks, with 7.8% remaining.

Gives an estimate of 12 weeks from now, "with this speed".
Not Q3/4. That's a bit needlessly dramatic.

XD bro iam more worried about next update after this one i think the game will be dead

 

[whichone]

XD bro iam more worried about next update after this one i think the game will be dead

There is no valid reason to expect the next update to take anywhere near as long as this one has.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

There is no valid reason to expect the next update to take anywhere near as long as this one has.

For you maybe but as you probably know already... the master level calculation experts are restless and will come up with statistics, numbers and foolproof facts why the next update after this one will take just as long or even longer.

 

[Rosswel]

For you maybe but as you probably know already... the master level calculation experts are restless and will come up with statistics, numbers and foolproof facts why the next update after this one will take just as long or even longer.

I think there's a high probability that the supporter will ask for smaller and shorter update after this update. Maybe split the update of the current size into several chapters or something because I'm pretty sure most supporter that voted for bigger update a long time ago didn't expect the update to take this long