Based. What your findings are, so far? Have you got enough material to publish an article about it?
milfy city proved you can milk for years. every single dev since then has had longer times between updates. every single one.
Good observations at the scale of a global patterns. Economical forces fueled by a basic human desires\emotions seems to be stronger than a rational\moralistic approach towards a supporters\product consumers. If only we could get some honest feedback from the devs. Maybe it's just a common tendency - that they just get lazy after they got some initial money flow from the first success. Or maybe most people inevitably get bored after a while, of the same routine actions during a long-running game development project.
You are wrong,they are devs who work their ass off to release updates every month or every two months,always updating their social media.
You misunderstood the purpose of Patreon. It is not for people who want to pay for finished products. For that, you have sites like Steam. Patreon is a donation system. You support devs there not as a transaction ("I pay this value for a finished product based on what I perceive its worth"), but to support their passion ("I donate as long as I wish because I like the vision of this dev, their passion and their project").
Preach. Shame on these devs. And idk whether to pity or laugh at their gullible patrons who enable their greedy milking.
Exactly. We see good devs here and there, but they are overshadowed by the big and popular greedy ones that dominate the scene, ironically enough haven't updated anything for ages, or have lazy updates.
Maybe we are getting honest feedback from devs but some people just refuse to believe them
Maybe. Hard to say in this world, hard to be sure of anything to a 100% degree, without being able to experience directly what the others feel. And there are many known cases of scum and liars in this world, which creates a rise to predispositions toward interpreting such cases as the current one in a negative light, in order to protect ourselves from the losses. We see only a peak of the iceberg in a form of a two following concurrent facts - 1) patreon payments continue to flow ; 2) updates keep getting delivered more rarely, until there aren't any at all. How to interpret these facts in a light of another facts - an open question for a discussion. And this is exactly what we do here in this thread right now. If you look at things in the light of how it's not a singular pattern with this particular game and that such pattern was observed with many other games throughout the years here... yeah, you got the idea.
I can understand people not believing devs anymore. I have lost trust in other devs in the past, too. But not believing them doesn't mean they are lying. So when I reach my 'that's enough' point, I prefer to be cautious and silently walk away from those games, just in case I'm actually wrong with them. At most, I can point out my reasons once before leaving for good, but I never felt the need to keep around those parts just to stir the shit. I'm realizing that's an enormously enjoyable entertainment for many people, though.
What stress is he talking about?
You can not release what you haven't finished. You have some quality standards from 6 previous updates you want to meet, and you are not being able to do it as fast as you (and your followers) wished. So you keep working while feeling this internal pressure (I'm not good enough, I'm not fast enough) and also reading some discouraging messages from unhappy people calling you names. That's a stressful situation in my book.
So it looks like my projection was a little bit off...
Hi moskyx -
I get that, I know the type. And you failed to mention those other users who don't even care about getting their free sex cartoons and simply find their fun in posting these accusations to get a dozen reactions from fellow haters and maybe feel they triggered me or other fans. The thing is that, when I post the official info shared by the devs and my own vision and insight on this game's development, I'm not actually talking to them, but to anyone else who might casually find the thread and might get the false impression that this game is what these users claim. Which is not. It doesn't really get me and I'll keep going until mods kick me out of here. But thanks for your words. I really appreciate it.
The people can complain as much as they want its been 2 years and this game and 90% of others would not be anywhere without these complainers on f95 so they have as much right as anybody. Its silly to think that there should be no negative feedback to such a delay idc if your a big company or a mom and pop shop .
55% in the drain when using patreon? That much?
no, the 55% is the complete package as in tax, patreon cut's, insurance and so on.
Yeah I know, but I thought it was more like 30/40% maximum at the end, not more than half.
