If there's not a full 24 hours worth of content for Orc girl plus whatever other BS they added on top of her this update will be a fat L regardless.
2 years for less than an hours worth of content would be WILD.
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2 years for less than an hours worth of content would be WILD.
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English is not my language but I translated this by : "let's hope after 2 years we WILL (let's hope so) freakin fuck "BERZERK MODE" that green bitch from every possible holes". Was I right? (In french I'd say " elle va prendre cher" no clue how to translate this instead of she will take fucking hard without having her money back.. but it would be too nice) Let me know if I'm wrong...
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Don't forget the part where this update is just a side-quest which doesn't move the main story forward at all.
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What do you mean by side quest and main quest/story. orcish girl was part of a side quest but, except if you have news about the FUTUUU...UUURE update, nothing say orcish girl is not with main quest or give apart of it. (IMO personaly, i'd call an end when MC get back to the brothel and fuck all his "mummies" that should have be done long ago; this is my main quest, or I get back to my fav akabur games forever and ever even if some are unfinished or rushed).
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Go back through this thread and see the poll results.
I might be misremembering (it's been years after all) but there were patreon polls on what each update should focus on, 7.0 is orc girl, 8.0 is Holly, the poll for the the main story line (the brown girl with the gold hair powers) was labeled as "main story" in the polls and lost both times. In other-words neither this update or the next (assuming they even happen) will be part of the main story, or in other-words, they're side-quests.
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Ok but we are not playing the witcher either... "main" or "side" quest here are just fun fuck thing. Why so serious?
IM SAYING, like this shit better be a good ammount of content with this character, might get GTA 6 before this
English is not my language but I translated this by : "let's hope after 2 years we WILL (let's hope so) freakin fuck "BERZERK MODE" that green bitch from every possible holes". Was I right? (In french I'd say " elle va prendre cher" no clue how to translate this instead of she will take fucking hard without having her money back.. but it would be too nice) Let me know if I'm wrong...
Oui oui hon hon, I hope that translated correctly.
You are correct
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I hope you enjoy the 2 hours of orc content my man.
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DISCLAIMER: I'm not talking about this game specifically. I'm not talking about this user specifically. This admittedly incoherent ramble is to everyone who supports anything.
Patrons, sponsors and what ever you wish to call them, have always monitored their dependents. Maybe not always overly actively, but at least to some extent. Everyone who has received support in this form, has always known it's not unconditional and it stops if you stop. Until Patreon.
With sites like Patreon, you can become a patron without being wealthy enough to be able to support freeloaders. Quite often simply throwing in $1 a month is enough. Wonderful, right? Wrong. Well, not completely wrong at least on paper, but there are some massive flaws. When you subscribe to pay $1 a month, it's easy to shrug your shoulders if there hasn't been any progress this month. Or past three months. Or past two years. Heck, you might even forget the whole damn thing if you're supporting multiple projects. Who cares? It's a dollar. But when supporting someone takes a substantial amount of money, you care about what's being done with it.
It's kind of counterintuitive how with increasing amount of patrons your accountability actually decreases. If you have one patron who supports you for $1K a month, you're accountable for $1K. You have to show results worth $1K. If you have a thousand patrons who support you for $1 a month, you're getting the same amount of money but you're only accountable for $1. For a thousand people, but still just $1. You have to really let people down for them to say what you're doing isn't worth even $1 a month.
And this results into something you see in every ponzi scheme: Denial. You spent a dollar? Huh, who cares. Not you, you can afford it. But in a year that's $12. Still not much to most of the people with access to internet to read this ramble. But it's $12 for nothing. The more you spend on nothing, the stupider you look. And you can't look stupid. So whatever you're funding, it has to come through. If it does, you'll look awesome for trusting in it the whole time. If it doesn't, you'll look like an idiot. You're not an idiot. You can't look like an idiot. Therefore, this has to work. And you have to convince everyone it will work and everything is going wonderfully, otherwise they'd think you're an idiot. You're not an idiot! And that's how you get those angry defenders who lash out at everyone for not sharing their blind faith and/or denial; that cult-like mentality you see around failed projects.
Maybe you don't care if you get any results, but you should. The less people care about results, the less they'll get any. When you're ignoring what is being done with your money, you're enabling all the milking.
And hey, who am I to say what counts as results? Maybe you are indeed happy with what you see. In that case, do go on. If supporters of games like Summertime Saga are truly fine with funding a guy doodling in a stream every now and then, well alrighty then. Like I said, you have to really let people down for them to say it isn't worth even $1. But I highly suggest that every now and then you take a hard look at yourself and what you're supporting. It may not be easy to admit to yourself that you've been had, but it won't stop until you do so. Take Happy Summer for example: That dev is running an experiment on how low you can push the bar before people get mad at you. And it's going astonishingly well. Like, every SMH-meme you've ever seen well. As long as people refuse to admit they're getting nothing, they'll get nothing.
If you want to keep supporting projects without requiring results, you're of course free to do so. But by doing so you're doing a massive disservice to everyone who does expect results. And don't act surprised when those people call you an idiot.
I myself understand perfectly the concept of patronage: You support someone financially so they can concentrate on being productive on a field of their choice. It's a marvelous concept. When you go to an art museum, everything you see exists solely because of patronage of some entity, private or public. Sponsorship in sports is essentially the same thing. Most scientific research is done with grants and backers. But I'm willing to make a claim that it has never come without expectations. Even if a piece of art or scientific breakthrough has taken years to finish, eventual results have been expected.
Patrons, sponsors and what ever you wish to call them, have always monitored their dependents. Maybe not always overly actively, but at least to some extent. Everyone who has received support in this form, has always known it's not unconditional and it stops if you stop. Until Patreon.
With sites like Patreon, you can become a patron without being wealthy enough to be able to support freeloaders. Quite often simply throwing in $1 a month is enough. Wonderful, right? Wrong. Well, not completely wrong at least on paper, but there are some massive flaws. When you subscribe to pay $1 a month, it's easy to shrug your shoulders if there hasn't been any progress this month. Or past three months. Or past two years. Heck, you might even forget the whole damn thing if you're supporting multiple projects. Who cares? It's a dollar. But when supporting someone takes a substantial amount of money, you care about what's being done with it.
It's kind of counterintuitive how with increasing amount of patrons your accountability actually decreases. If you have one patron who supports you for $1K a month, you're accountable for $1K. You have to show results worth $1K. If you have a thousand patrons who support you for $1 a month, you're getting the same amount of money but you're only accountable for $1. For a thousand people, but still just $1. You have to really let people down for them to say what you're doing isn't worth even $1 a month.
And this results into something you see in every ponzi scheme: Denial. You spent a dollar? Huh, who cares. Not you, you can afford it. But in a year that's $12. Still not much to most of the people with access to internet to read this ramble. But it's $12 for nothing. The more you spend on nothing, the stupider you look. And you can't look stupid. So whatever you're funding, it has to come through. If it does, you'll look awesome for trusting in it the whole time. If it doesn't, you'll look like an idiot. You're not an idiot. You can't look like an idiot. Therefore, this has to work. And you have to convince everyone it will work and everything is going wonderfully, otherwise they'd think you're an idiot. You're not an idiot! And that's how you get those angry defenders who lash out at everyone for not sharing their blind faith and/or denial; that cult-like mentality you see around failed projects.
Maybe you don't care if you get any results, but you should. The less people care about results, the less they'll get any. When you're ignoring what is being done with your money, you're enabling all the milking.
And hey, who am I to say what counts as results? Maybe you are indeed happy with what you see. In that case, do go on. If supporters of games like Summertime Saga are truly fine with funding a guy doodling in a stream every now and then, well alrighty then. Like I said, you have to really let people down for them to say it isn't worth even $1. But I highly suggest that every now and then you take a hard look at yourself and what you're supporting. It may not be easy to admit to yourself that you've been had, but it won't stop until you do so. Take Happy Summer for example: That dev is running an experiment on how low you can push the bar before people get mad at you. And it's going astonishingly well. Like, every SMH-meme you've ever seen well. As long as people refuse to admit they're getting nothing, they'll get nothing.
If you want to keep supporting projects without requiring results, you're of course free to do so. But by doing so you're doing a massive disservice to everyone who does expect results. And don't act surprised when those people call you an idiot.
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2 hours of content? Why are we talking about the 1 hour of content? I will enjoy that 30 minutes of content. I'm very hyped for those 15 minutes of content.
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I started my MFA when this update was conceived, and now I have an MFA.
- Aug 1, 2022
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My only hope with this game is that the devs start releasing quicker small updates after this.
They seem to have a huge ego so who knows.
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Yeah this will stay at 99,8% for two month at least.
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There is a saying where I come from, that can be translated to something like this:
"Every single day there is a fool and a scoundrel on the streets. If they ever meet, business happens."
Don't be a fool.
"Every single day there is a fool and a scoundrel on the streets. If they ever meet, business happens."
Don't be a fool.
Reminds me of Innocent Witches. Devs posted 2023 roadmap, then did nothing and posted almost exactly the same roadmap for 2024. Paying all the bills for devs and waiting for them to work isn't always something that works the way you expect.
I mean, if you get any good at VG design you can immediately quit making AVN's and go make games for a company you can proudly tell your in-laws about. The social stigma of making porn tends to create a brain drain where anyone with talent eventually escapes to the "legit day job" market. Anyone who sticks around long term making porn is typically someone whose skill level has plateau'd and is never gonna make it in the more competitive and choosy legit gaming development field. OR, someone like the Nuts - who are only interested in doing development as a hobby. Which is why they work slowly and make a quality game. It's also why we can count on them still being here & plugging away 5, 10, 15 years from now (though they may have to switch platforms here and there, I can't imagine patreon will last that long). This is, weirdly, a labor of love for them.
It's also why the only outcome people yelling at them could have would be to discourage them and make them quit. You're not going to make them hire people, you're not going to make them turn their hobby into a day job, you're not going to make them speed up. So either relax and be patient or go away.
lol have you seen Holly? She has a lot in common with a plank of wood. Gomira's are the last tig biddies you're gonna see for a long time, better enjoy 'em
Well said and I agree! I think her little tusks are cute, her BJ scene was smoking hot (the combo of it being a gloryhole scene and her considering biting him gave it a little spice from danger). Simmone is also high on my list (much higher than mean tsundere Holly or arrogant princess Serena). Simmone's chastity belt reminded me of the Princess Bride, lol. I hope getting the key is a long and challenging quest!
Come on now. Why make shit up? There's absolutely no reason to suspect this update would be that short. Rose had much more content than that and her update took significantly less time. It stands to reason that Gomira's story will be quite large compared even to Rose's. I've played entire H games that had about as much plot as just the Rose storyline had. Chill.
Irrelevant distinction. Sure, I personally really want to move the plot forward (mostly because I'm mad for Lady Mad). But content is content. At the end of the day plot and sex scenes with Gomira are just as much work to write, draw, pose, edit, and test as content for the main story. The patreon voters voted for orc girl. I have to assume they're pumped for her.
*Obi-Wan voice* "That's a name I've not heard in a long time..."
Hoo boy. That was a dark time, when every grifter out there was trying to rake in a quick buck off some reskinned Akabur project. Fortunately that all seems to have died down now. (It helps that HP fandom has also begun dying off.)
(NB I'm not saying this to diss on big A. The 2DCG AVN community owes a lot to him for helping to inspire so many devs to copy him. Most of them were hacks or utterly talentless, but enough of them stuck around that there really is so much more being produced now than there ever was before him. )