Kisama33

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i meant for the future when new updates arrive
not really a big deal since im already well into the game though
i just dislike the dumb changes patreon forced lol
I can understand the feeling, specialty when those changes were not what the devs wanted but having the trouble to change that for ever update in the future sounds pointless, just like those edit works that swap the original material to "blacked/bleached" versions. It is what is, the important is to "preserve" the original before the changes and keep it "safe and available" for future generations and fans, makings non-official changes doesn't feel the same.

Like I said before the devs could had just left the game as it was on their website, but they changed it too, maybe to less the work and possible inconsistencies if they had to work in both version every time.
If they want, they can do something when the project its over, releasing a patch/update outside of patreon, so it's better to let the decision to them instead of loosing time with something that may end up being changed in the future anyways. If that doesn't happen and if someone thinks that is important then why not.
 
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bogodit

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Patreon does not care about blood status.
Your legal guardian is your parent, whether that person is blood related or not is irrelevant.
You got adopted by a whore, therefore she is your mother according to patreon incest rules
That's pretty gay!
 

Biscardone

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Like I said before the devs could had just left the game as it was on their website, but they changed it too, maybe to less the work and possible inconsistencies if they had to work in both version every time.
Absolutely, having only a single version of the script and art keeps things easier to manage. Unfortunately, it's not only that. Patreon has already proven in the past that the easiest workarounds to allow incest-related themes in games (e.g. providing a simple script to enable specific options or dialogue, allowing the player to rename the relationships) are not enough to guarantee an exemption to their rules - if it's in the script, you're out. Some authors already burnt themselves, and now nobody is willing to push the boundaries, which is understandable. For comparison, just read the ridiculous Patreon rules about consent:
Patreon said:
It is paramount that Adult/18+ creators demonstrate consent in all works (real or animated; photo, video, written, audio) between adult participants or characters; specifically, a freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of consent by a statement or by a clear affirmative action. Additionally, participants and characters must be able to give consent (i.e. not be under the influence of alcohol, drugs, hypnosis, blackmail). "Consensual non-consent" works, in which participants or characters engage in simulated non-consensual encounters, are not permitted. Accompanying a work that features a non-consensual encounter with a statement claiming that the encounter was consensual is a violation of Patreon guidelines.
Patreon is obviously going the extra mile to preserve their bottomline, and authors are caught in the crossfire; so, in turn, they do the same. It's unfair and undeserved, but when money is involved, matters of principle are the first to get silenced.
 
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Modify8066

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Absolutely, having only a single version of the script and art keeps things easier to manage. Unfortunately, it's not only that. Patreon has already proven in the past that the easiest workarounds to allow incest-related themes in games (e.g. providing a simple script to enable specific options or dialogue, allowing the player to rename the relationships) are not enough to guarantee an exemption to their rules - if it's in the script, you're out. Some authors already burnt themselves, and now nobody is willing to push the boundaries, which is understandable. For comparison, just read the ridiculous Patreon rules about consent:

Patreon is obviously going the extra mile to preserve their bottomline, and authors are caught in the crossfire; so, in turn, they do the same. It's unfair and undeserved, but when money is involved, matters of principle are the first to get silenced.
Damn, they don't even permit CNC. That is just crazy. I wish payment processors, middlemen, etc didn't go crazy over NSFW shit.
 
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OtakuGamer11

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A fictional MC having an orgy with his whore moms in the same world where Orcs exist I refuse to compare that to real life :KEK:
While I fundamentally agree that this is a funny porn game so it doesn't really matter, this comment reads like a "it's fantasy, anything goes" verisimilitude vs realism argument. Reminds me of this meme:

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Except replace bigoted with puritanic or whatever.
 

Kisama33

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Man I am so want to learn how they find bugs. Are they just replaying the update every day?
You can check the FAQ in the original post to have an idea how the development process and what some of the phases of the progress tracker work/mean for these devs specifically.

(Funny like some of the things people keep pointing out like the numbers increasing or the % not increasing that much along the time are already explained in there for a looooong time and have been a thing for the past updates and not exclusive to 0.7).
 

Porn_Jesus

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I'm willing to bet that the update won't be released this year. I remember being angry too.Don't give a fuck now.
You should teach that to the absurd amount of kiddies here. They might learn something useful for once. :HideThePain:
 

Fantaldebert

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renpy is not the problem. Doing it in any other language/toolkit/framework isn't going to solve those small bugs. [...]
Xupuzulla is trolling about the amount of bugs emerging. He isn't pointing renpy as a problem but as an aggravating circunstance. The argument is that you can't find so many *2-days-of-work-bugs* while coding in renpy without having butter fingers or chronical bullshiting habits.
 

JJohns2049

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Xupuzulla is trolling about the amount of bugs emerging. He isn't pointing renpy as a problem but as an aggravating circunstance. The argument is that you can't find so many *2-days-of-work-bugs* while coding in renpy without having butter fingers or chronical bullshiting habits.
Well you give a suggestion, who says devs don't have butter fingers and chronical bullshiting habits....
 

DemiMaximoff

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Xupuzulla is trolling about the amount of bugs emerging. He isn't pointing renpy as a problem but as an aggravating circunstance. The argument is that you can't find so many *2-days-of-work-bugs* while coding in renpy without having butter fingers or chronical bullshiting habits.
The type of bug matters too. I bet most of the remaining bugs are "scene X does not run l, because we have not made scene X yet".
 

walker188

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I'm willing to bet that the update won't be released this year. I remember being angry too.Don't give a fuck now.
Yeah. I think most people have given up on caring about the game. On the other hand, they are sustaining/entertaining themselves by despising these shitty devs. And for the record, I don't blame them. It's one thing to be lazy and greedy, its the lying that sucks the worst in these situations.

No one. Absolutely no one, not even the mods actually believe they are fixing two bugs every day or so. They are either not working or still doing basic shit. What's crazy is if they would have owned the truth, people like me would have kept supporting (at least for a while) but now....

Well, someone is still supporting, so I guess there's that.
 
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