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Gorehound Gal
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Coincidentally, despite so many zoners' wishes, the dev has just said on Discord that the update will be sent to external testers tomorrow, and the release date is confirmed for Dec 10th.
That's amazing news!

Not to single out and individual but purely as an example, I have noticed one person who likes to post regular statistics. [...] that individual has spent 4.7 days of their life complaining about a game on the chat board of a porn site.
I don't know if you meant me but, in case you did, I'd like to say I'm not complaining about the game when I post the analysis of the progress reports. My intention is only to help people interpret the data so they have a more realistic idea of how much is left to do, with the hope that would stop people from feeling like progress is going back when it's not. I don't feel entitled to their release, I just wait for it and have a little fun playing with data, because that's fun for me. Never meant to troll, and the statistics were never meant as a complain. :)

If, on the other hand, you didn't mean me, then, well... no harm in making that clear, to avoid misunderstandings. :giggle:
 

mathluccas

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Dec 21, 2022
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Ok. Let's have some fun with this.

The last release was May 24th, 2023. 562 days, or, roughly 80 weeks.

I concede your argument that the devs are very slow and not putting in a 37.5 hour work week. I am not paying them (and I am making the assumption you are also not paying them) so we have lost nothing monetarily to make us angry. However, I do enjoy the game so will play it for free when it releases, so I can understand frustration in waiting.

But ask yourself what is being gained with negative comments on a porn game pirating site?

Not to single out and individual but purely as an example, I have noticed one person who likes to post regular statistics. I am going to conservatively estimate that this would take about 10 minutes a week. (Collecting information, filling spreadsheet, posting and reading responses, etc.)

Multiply that by 80 weeks, and that individual has spent 4.7 days of their life complaining about a game on the chat board of a porn site. Conservative estimate assumes this is the only game they troll and i will let them run the stats to confirm on this if they like as they are skilled in doing so.

As is commonly stated, one feeling of those that are angry is that the developers don't care about their player base, which argues that they don't read this and therefore, comments are essentially pointless and have no effect.

This is why reading the constant vitriol is so amusing to me.
Idk who you're talking about, but I post a comment memeing the devs every other month or so. What is more concerning is the amount of time the discord mod spent white knighting for them without getting paid. Don't believe me? Go back a couple of hundred pages and you'll see him being extremely passive agressive towards people that were joking over the update taking too long.

Last real update was in the middle of 2022, btw. Other ''updates'' that came after were just changes due to patreon ToS.
 

mathluccas

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Dec 21, 2022
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But getting paid the whole time is. :p
I think he admitted to be moderating for free, iirc.

Or are you talking about the devs? If so I agree lol, it must be nice to get ~7k a month to post (totally not made-up) progress reports. Can't say I blame them, I'd probably do the same in their position.
 
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pupperito

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Probably they play start and end again themself in a whole day for bugs testing , if not wrong I remembered that my first play this game with rose fully update content 0.6 version took almost a day and 20 above save took !!
Not sure if this is even what you mean, but if you think they have to click through the whole game to get near the end, I assure you that is not the case at all. It's a label based system in renpy you could very easily jump to where you need to be, such as set up a button/choice that does that and sets whatever relevant variables that scene needs. If somehow they are NOT doing that, that would be hilarious and no wonder why everything takes so long
 

MissSonicBoom

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My favourite thing is still that Patrons consider themselves customers, you are not a customer in the same way you aren't a customer when donating to a charity, same principle applies to Patreon and yet people seem to think that being subbed for 2 and half years is on the devs if they delay. It's like they don't realise they could just, I dunno, stop being a Patron? Crazy, I know! Really just circles back around to people feeling entitled, you weren't ripped off or scammed, you didn't have to pay for 2 and half years, you chose to and now you're whining.

(You in this case of course being generalised)
 

moskyx

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Jun 17, 2019
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My favourite thing is still that Patrons consider themselves customers, you are not a customer in the same way you aren't a customer when donating to a charity, same principle applies to Patreon and yet people seem to think that being subbed for 2 and half years is on the devs if they delay. It's like they don't realise they could just, I dunno, stop being a Patron? Crazy, I know! Really just circles back around to people feeling entitled, you weren't ripped off or scammed, you didn't have to pay for 2 and half years, you chose to and now you're whining.

(You in this case of course being generalised)
No one who's been paying for 2 years is whining. Those who are still paying perfectly understand the patronage system. And, as the dev said the other day, there are really very few people still subbed since 2022.
 
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No one who's been paying for 2 years is whining. Those who are still paying perfectly understand the patronage system. And, as the dev said the other day, there are really very few people still subbed since 2022.
I don't like patreon which has no support for crypto. If they accept crypto I would at least subscribed for 1$. Sadly they don' support crypto.
 

moskyx

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Jun 17, 2019
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does anyone know when the game will be released on steam ?
Nope. They only set up the Steam page but don't have a proper plan for using it, as the game is free. As Pistachio said, "the page would be more of a backup plan in case one day, god forbid, Patreon decides it doesn't want us on its platform". In the future they will ask their supporters for suggestions about what direction they should take with the Steam release (like, releasing the game divided into "seasons", or maybe giving the main story for free and charging for side character's quests as DLC's). Anyway, it's not expected anytime soon.
 
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