What happened to the MMD thread this time?

[kxh]

There is no such a thing as a wannamoyu Animation thread.

Change your name to redcommunist, communist monkeys also like to deny Taiwan just like you.

People living in the communist regime have an affectionate nickname for communism, which is red cow

 

[kxh]

There is no such a thing as a wannamoyu Animation thread.

Coincidentally, chili peppers are also red!!

 

[Count Morado]

You're missing my point you sound like a robot repeating the same slop, I didn't say it was 100% legal I said they don't care so it is basically 100% legal even if its actually 99.5% so using it as an argument against someone is just stupid we do technically illegal things everyday in life man there's so many little things the government doesn't care about and this is just another example the fbi is gonna laugh in your face and ignore you if you called in about someone having a loli stash

Dude. You jumped into the conversation that already existed.

Guy said that loli and shota are 100% legal in the United States. I showed he was wrong. You decided to add your two cents, which continues the in accuracies of the first guy's statement.

I repeat that I have shared because that is the law in the United States and you keep providing either links with bad and nonofficial info, show your lack of understanding of enforceable laws on the books and the like. You can do whatever you want in your personal life with that info, but to tell people that it is legal is incorrect and you are doing a disservice.

Your statement about the FBI is also incorrect. They have taken action on such tips in the past, as representatives of the US DOJ.

To repeat, as has been shown in my links to the US Code and to the US DOH, loli and shota are not 100% legal. And they are not "99.5%" legal, either.

Live in your own world where the sky is green and grass is purple... But do not provide legal advice when you are neither qualified nor even educated to do so. People should not trust anonymous users on the internet about what is legal.

 

[loliluka]

You're missing my point you sound like a robot repeating the same slop, I didn't say it was 100% legal I said they don't care so it is basically 100% legal even if its actually 99.5% so using it as an argument against someone is just stupid we do technically illegal things everyday in life man there's so many little things the government doesn't care about and this is just another example the fbi is gonna laugh in your face and ignore you if you called in about someone having a loli stash

Yeah I think the image has to be INDISTINGUISHABLE from a real child to be illegal. Anime girls made from scratch shouldnt even be a part of that discussion. But pearl clutcher prudes have a long and storied history of never shutting up and ruining everything they can.

 

[zxcv1245789]

You're missing my point you sound like a robot repeating the same slop, I didn't say it was 100% legal I said they don't care so it is basically 100% legal even if its actually 99.5% so using it as an argument against someone is just stupid we do technically illegal things everyday in life man there's so many little things the government doesn't care about and this is just another example the fbi is gonna laugh in your face and ignore you if you called in about someone having a loli stash

This is essentially a universal concept, especially for developing countries. To prevent moralists from attacking the website and affecting its operation, rules are established. Just because you believe something is legal doesn’t mean everyone shares your view. After all, whether something is acceptable isn’t determined by you alone but by collective agreement. You might argue that Japan is an exception, as it has progressed further in this area than other countries and has a better understanding of the distinction between reality and fantasy. However, only fantasy is permitted; realistic content is still illegal. In short, your constant explanations that something is legal are an attempt to sidestep the real issue. Whether it's 100% or 95.5%, it is still illegal.

 

[SaraVL57]

Dude. You jumped into the conversation that already existed.

Guy said that loli and shota are 100% legal in the United States. I showed he was wrong. You decided to add your two cents, which continues the in accuracies of the first guy's statement.

I repeat that I have shared because that is the law in the United States and you keep providing either links with bad and nonofficial info, show your lack of understanding of enforceable laws on the books and the like. You can do whatever you want in your personal life with that info, but to tell people that it is legal is incorrect and you are doing a disservice.

Your statement about the FBI is also incorrect. They have taken action on such tips in the past, as representatives of the US DOJ.

To repeat, as has been shown in my links to the US Code and to the US DOH, loli and shota are not 100% legal. And they are not "99.5%" legal, either.

Live in your own world where the sky is green and grass is purple... But do not provide legal advice when you are neither qualified nor even educated to do so. People should not trust anonymous users on the internet about what is legal.

I can use the same exact argument for everything youve said, the difference is my case has actual evidence backing it, please enlighten me on the FBI taking action on loli and or shotacon on someone who wasnt already a sex offender id love to see a single real arrest

 

[zxcv1245789]

And by the way, if you believe it's legal, then go ahead and start the website you claim is legal in the United States, and see if it can actually operate. Based on your reasoning, there should be plenty of such websites in the U.S., right? But in reality, there aren’t. Only secretive websites with various verifications and rules have such content. So, wake up.

 

[SaraVL57]

And by the way, if you believe it's legal, then go ahead and start the website you claim is legal in the United States, and see if it can actually operate. Based on your reasoning, there should be plenty of such websites in the U.S., right? But in reality, there aren’t. Only secretive websites with various verifications and rules have such content. So, wake up.

twitter allows it. nhentai allows it, pixiv allows it, hanime allows it, shall I go on?

 

[loliluka]

Live in your own world where the sky is green and grass is purple...

Thanks doc

 

[wasd123333]

There's two main problems here no one is addressing or realizing.

1. Having the thread as a mix is what encouraged artists to get noticed for their works. People would upload their own works in one central viewing area, so everyone easily see it. If you separate threads by artists, NO ONE is going to look at every single thread to discover new artists, it's simply time consuming and way too annoying to have to navigate within subsections. This is the biggest loss for not having the giant megathread. My suggestion is to let us have a thread for newest works only from artists that are already shared. At least with this, it won't break any rules since the content was already approved as a thread.

2. Why is no one providing an alternative? Stop trying to convince the mods or backlash at them, you are wasting your time. Instead, provide an alternate website so we can go there.

ULMF? Anime-Sharing? Someone please just give some alternatives so we can all move on with our lives.

 

[SaraVL57]

There's two main problems here no one is addressing or realizing.

1. Having the thread as a mix is what encouraged artists to get noticed for their works. People would upload their own works in one central viewing area, so everyone easily see it. If you separate threads by artists, NO ONE is going to look at every single thread to discover new artists, it's simply time consuming and way too annoying to have to navigate within subsections. This is the biggest loss for not having the giant megathread. My suggestion is to let us have a thread for newest works only from artists that are already shared. At least with this, it won't break any rules since the content was already approved as a thread.

2. Why is no one providing an alternative? Stop trying to convince the mods or backlash at them, you are wasting your time. Instead, provide an alternate website so we can go there.

ULMF? Anime-Sharing? Someone please just give some alternatives so we can all move on with our lives.

You must be registered to see the links

 

[aglingua]

There's two main problems here no one is addressing or realizing.

1. Having the thread as a mix is what encouraged artists to get noticed for their works. People would upload their own works in one central viewing area, so everyone easily see it. If you separate threads by artists, NO ONE is going to look at every single thread to discover new artists, it's simply time consuming and way too annoying to have to navigate within subsections. This is the biggest loss for not having the giant megathread. My suggestion is to let us have a thread for newest works only from artists that are already shared. At least with this, it won't break any rules since the content was already approved as a thread.

2. Why is no one providing an alternative? Stop trying to convince the mods or backlash at them, you are wasting your time. Instead, provide an alternate website so we can go there.

ULMF? Anime-Sharing? Someone please just give some alternatives so we can all move on with our lives.

I like that idea personally

 

[wasd123333]

You must be registered to see the links

This is actually a great site/thread. Let's get this train going.

 

[loliluka]

This is actually a great site/thread. Let's get this train going.

Well then get to posting, I cant sustain a thread myself

 

[Count Morado]

I can use the same exact argument for everything youve said, the difference is my case has actual evidence backing it, please enlighten me on the FBI taking action on loli and or shotacon on someone who wasnt already a sex offender id love to see a single real arrest

You can, but I have already supplied links to the law and the DOJ which show what I am claiming has basis in the law as it has stood for 21 years. Yet you wish to deny it, even with proof in your face.

To your follow up, from 2023:

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Fom the article:
"I do know that the investigators submitted a cartoon image of alleged child abuse in Application to the District Court to obtain a search warrant in 2022”

It was the cartoon image that investigators used to obtain the search warrant. The other items listed are all pieces with already considered artistic merit.

The Federal authorities are not going to turn a blind eye to what they believe is a reliable tip. Particularly not on something that the majority of the general populace considers obscene at the least or atrocious. The authorities have a firm commitment to the concept that where there is smoke, there is fire.

As I have supplied links to the law,the US DOJ, and - per your request - a case where cartoon imagery did result in a search warrant and arrest by federal authorities upon a person who was not identified as a prior offender... I have gone far beyond anything you have provided for your opinion.

Again, people should not trust anonymous people online (especially on a site such as this on) for their opinion on what is legal where they live. Laws are on the books and only someone who is an expert in the law can give proper guidance on whether something in the code has some affirmative defense that would allow someone to proceed without much worry of prosecution.

Even so, a person could evade prosecution after they were arrested, booked, name all over their local news, lose their job, ties with friends and family.... And that all stays available on the Internet for years for people to search if they decide to.

 

[Count Morado]

twitter allows it. nhentai allows it, pixiv allows it, hanime allows it, shall I go on?

Twitter/X does not allow it and has not for years.

You must be registered to see the links

Twitter/X and other social media sites have Safe Harbor protection. This means they are not held liable for anything posted on their site by users as long as there is a process I place to remove content and they are timely in their actions based upon finding such content or through responding to reports.

No, I am not going to go look at the others you mentioned because it is obvious you do not know what mechanisms the site have in place to help shield them from civil and criminal liability.

You do not have a understanding of the law no of the policies companies put in place for their survival.

Again, people should not trust anonymous people online (especially on a site such as this on) for their opinion on what is legal where they live.

 

[SaraVL57]

You can, but I have already supplied links to the law and the DOJ which show what I am claiming has basis in the law as it has stood for 21 years. Yet you wish to deny it, even with proof in your face.

To your follow up, from 2023:

You must be registered to see the links

Fom the article:
"I do know that the investigators submitted a cartoon image of alleged child abuse in Application to the District Court to obtain a search warrant in 2022”

It was the cartoon image that investigators used to obtain the search warrant. The other items listed are all pieces with already considered artistic merit.

The Federal authorities are not going to turn a blind eye to what they believe is a reliable tip. Particularly not on something that the majority of the general populace considers obscene at the least or atrocious. The authorities have a firm commitment to the concept that where there is smoke, there is fire.

As I have supplied links to the law,the US DOJ, and - per your request - a case where cartoon imagery did result in a search warrant and arrest by federal authorities upon a person who was not identified as a prior offender... I have gone far beyond anything you have provided for your opinion.

Again, people should not trust anonymous people online (especially on a site such as this on) for their opinion on what is legal where they live. Laws are on the books and only someone who is an expert in the law can give proper guidance on whether something in the code has some affirmative defense that would allow someone to proceed without much worry of prosecution.

Even so, a person could evade prosecution after they were arrested, booked, name all over their local news, lose their job, ties with friends and family.... And that all stays available on the Internet for years for people to search if they decide to.

"They did NOT find that in the search of my home." nice one completely avoiding putting that in, they used to get a search warrants because the guy was already suspected which I said before is possible

 

[SaraVL57]

Twitter/X does not allow it and has not for years.

You must be registered to see the links

Twitter/X and other social media sites have Safe Harbor protection. This means they are not held liable for anything posted on their site by users as long as there is a process I place to remove content and they are timely in their actions based upon finding such content or through responding to reports.

No, I am not going to go look at the others you mentioned because it is obvious you do not know what mechanisms the site have in place to help shield them from civil and criminal liability.

You do not have a understanding of the law no of the policies companies put in place for their survival.

Again, people should not trust anonymous people online (especially on a site such as this on) for their opinion on what is legal where they live.

there are r18 loli artist on twitter with hundreds of thousands of followers and probably an equal amount of reports, again this comes down to the higher ups not caring once again because the government doesn't give a shit, if you actually read it you'd realize theyre refering to real children being depicted not cartoon porn, try again buddy.

"any material that features or promotes child sexual exploitation. This may include real media, text, illustrated, or computer-generated media - including generative AI media. Regardless of the intent, anyone viewing, sharing, linking, or engaging with any kind of child sexual exploitation material contributes to the re-victimization of the depicted children and puts children at an extreme risk of being harmed. This also applies to content that may further contribute to victimization of children through the promotion or glorification of child sexual exploitation."

 

[Count Morado]

"They did NOT find that in the search of my home." nice one completely avoiding putting that in, they used to get a search warrants because the guy was already suspected which I said before is possible

You have no experience or education in the law and are making shit up.

I did not completely avoid that. I linked the article. If I was avoiding I would have found another article.

You asked for me to find the feds "taking action on loli and or shotacon on someone who wasnt already a sex offender id love to see a single real arrest." And I did JUST that. The search warrant signed by the judge and executed by federal officials used a carton for valuation of that warrant. Subsequently, the guy was arrested and charged with 5 counts.

text, illustrated

Text is not "real children"
Illustrated does not imply "real children" or "realistic"

I already said why you will find images on Twitter/X and other sites because of Safe Harbor. As long as they take action when found and/or reported they limit their liability. The accounts you find either have not been seen by Twitter staff nor been reported. Do a search for "Does Twitter allow lolicon?"

Again, no one should trust you about the legality on policy on anything.

At this time you have shown nothing substantive to back up your opinion. I'm done with you.

 

[Bale99]

there are r18 loli artist on twitter with hundreds of thousands of followers and probably an equal amount of reports, again this comes down to the higher ups not caring once again because the government doesn't give a shit, if you actually read it you'd realize theyre refering to real children being depicted not cartoon porn, try again buddy.

"any material that features or promotes child sexual exploitation. This may include real media, text, illustrated, or computer-generated media - including generative AI media. Regardless of the intent, anyone viewing, sharing, linking, or engaging with any kind of child sexual exploitation material contributes to the re-victimization of the depicted children and puts children at an extreme risk of being harmed. This also applies to content that may further contribute to victimization of children through the promotion or glorification of child sexual exploitation."

Idk why you act like own the house, even tho you were not a house owner...

I think its no use ,if you still comparing other platform to f95zone...its different