Lesbians all want cock is one that really pisses me off. I know bringing my personal feelings into a game shouldn't happen but sadly a lot of men think like that and they annoy me. When I see the tags "Male Protag" and "Lesbian" I usually find some character labeled as lesbian and wanting the MC's dick, that isn't a lesbian it's a bisexual. It's like people think we are there to be converted. Going to say something I said once before, one day i'm going to make a game where straight men are converted gay by surprise butt fucks, see how they like it.
Now, I want to be clear, I agree with you. But, sadly we don't have a bisexual tag, I checked.
From there, to me it's all about how it is done. What Milfy City has done with the Aunt, I think that's kinda fucked. She's been adamant about her feelings, she's not gonna change her mind by watching her nephew fuck her wife, no matter how into rough sex she is. However, sexuality is a spectrum, and as you yourself know, there are plenty of girls who rebound from a bad relationship with a man, declaring themselves lesbians for life and then go back a few months or years, if they're really mad, later. I know that in my case my taste in sexual partners is mostly identifiable as straight, however I also like attractive trans women, dick or not, and futanari is fun, and I know that I find certain men attractive enough to have relations with, so if you ask me, I'll tell you I'm pansexual. If someone had found me 5 years ago, before I really explored this side of me, they would have been able to turn me from being straight.
But as I always say, no matter what the game, you had better set it up well. It would probably work best in a female protagonist game, so that the thoughts and feelings of the lesbian in question can be used to show the change in them. However you can get away with it in some form of game with a 3rd person narrative, who can get the thoughts and feelings of non-player characters. Still, this is not an easy thing to pull off. As I mentioned above, it's what Milfy City has tried, but in my opinion the method is nothing short of insulting.
As to your game about a guy turning other guys gay with buttsex, I'd play it.
Rape enjoyment. The only time I have seen this work is in Bunny Black and that's because that game is so over the top ridiculous pretty much anything would work. Maybe Rance too but, again, he's also over the top ridiculous.
Sex breaking someone mentally. That's not how sex works. It's usually a Japanese thing (funny how they are behind all things wrong in porn)
I have trouble with a lot of "corruption" games/VNs. A lot of them have the 'rape her until she likes it' mentality. They don't actually develop the corruption aspect of the character. It's mostly "I didn't know how much I liked sex until I was forced to have it 50 times." Depending on how poorly it's handled, it can make me stop a game. In the same vein, it's always laughable when the blackmail is "have sex with me or I'll tell people you already had sex with me." Given that the first encounter was generally rape, it seems stupid that this line of thinking works. It's a never ending cycle of blackmail at that point. While I realize the character is supposed to be wanting more sex, it is usually super clunky and sloppy.
Quoting you two together, because you're right, this is one of my biggest pet peeves in games. Corruption is a choice made by the person who is being corrupted. If you use blackmail, coercion, or rape to alter the mental state of a victim with the intention of "breaking their mind" and "corrupting" them, then you're not going to corrupt them. You will get them to act in the way you want. But it won't be corruption. It will be survival instinct. The victim, over time, may become institutionalized by your actions, and behave the way you want them to without you having to force them. But if they ever escape this situation they will not remain a cock hungry slut who craves a master, or a whore who craves pain so much that she'll intentionally go down dark alleys to get raped.
No, she'll go to therapy for her massive psychological problems and likely try the rest of her life to rebuild. However, being institutionalized the way she was, it will be hard. She'll be looking around every corner for the rest of her days. Her institutionalization will make her more likely to become a victim again in the future, as she'll be less likely to fight, her natural responses being honed in a particular fashion. But she will never be corrupt. She will never want it.
Sister, sister, sister.
Where the fact you didnt inform anyone a stranger was mind controling your younger sister or even attempted to murder to witch irirtated me to no end.
I like incest game.
I like corrupting woman.
But i am still quiet protective of my family.
Likewise i expect that either out of possestiveness or love the main charater does accauly want to protect his family from other preditors.
There are a lot of problems with Sister Sister Sister. The code, first off. I played 3 or 4 versions after the truth or dare sequence was added where I had to go in and fix the truth or dare sequence because it was throwing an infinite loop error. The fact that he turned off auto saves, and somehow, broke backup saves, because I often had to restart that game from the beginning, in spite of having chapter 1,2,3,5,6,8,11,12,&14 all in my backup save data. The art is very basic, no skill whatsoever seems to have gone into it. And the reason I stopped playing finally after 14 was that, in spite of having sex with the redhead and, I'm pretty sure the mom too, chapter 14 wall all about Alessia being disappointed in my progress, not losing my virginity yet, and having a first time with mom. I also seem to recall 12 ending with them being worried I was progressing too fast. An inconsistent story is what killed it for me.
What didn't kill it for me, is the mind control. The mind control technique in this game, which is a form of hypnosis really, is the best explained piece of mind control in any game I've played. A practitioner of this technique is not able to make anyone do anything they don't want to do. It simply acts to remove their inhibitions that keep them from doing that thing which they desire. As you know there was a secret of some sort on the twin sister's computer that your older sisters were interested in finding out. What was that? She was writing about her incest fantasies, particularly those involving you. So no, Alessia didn't control her. She simply helped remove the barriers that were stopping her from doing these things.
Te reason DmD and Melody are popular, imho, is that the writing take its time to establish the characters and not every one of them seem to have the same personality and fettishes.
I don't know about Melody, I won't play it until it's finished after my experience with DmD, but no, DmD did not take the time to establish its characters. Now, let me be clear. DmD actually has something great going for it, a dramatic plot revolving around the taboo and keeping it a secret, while also hoping to expand things. However, when it comes to the characters, everyone that has more than a few scenes is inconsistent as all hell.
D, in particular, goes from having the mentality of a child under 10 to having the mentality of maybe a 13 year old from one scene to the next. She's stupid and not in a "she's uneducated" way, but in a "she's incapable of processing information and coming to logical conclusions" kind of way. If D were dropped into a female protagonist game, it would be a retard in lechertown. She'd be raped by the photographer and his brother. She'd be raped by the guys on the beach, she'd be raped by Elena. And if her daddy was in the game, guess what? She'd be raped by him too.
Bringing up Elena, I assume you played the most recent update? Why the fuck is the character who has been a straightforward slut from day one, so confident in herself that she'd attempt to seduce a 40 something year old man in a cafe while his daughter was there, all of the sudden a blushing maiden when it comes to this country boy stammering his way around?
The MC is almost as bad as D. He's the quintessential
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character. And we are gonna focus on the "be a gentleman" part. You see, Mr. Dots couldn't decide if he was writing a corruption game or a romance game. And so your MC goes between acting like a complete deranged pervert taking advantage of his retarded daughter to having existential crises about how it's wrong for him to be doing this. In spite of behaving like he intends to corrupt, he's always worried about her comfort level in a tender and loving fashion.
And this brings us to the biggest problem with all this, and likely the reason behind all of the character inconsistency. PACING. To say this straight, before you left the island sex should have happened. However, I'll caveat this a bit. I also would remove all the corruption elements and the early peeking and massages. The first time you lay your hands on D in a semi-sexual fashion, would be the time you apply lotion to her on that first day on the beach. From there you build a willing progression that comes from both characters, D, with naive curiosity, I wouldn't change the fact that she is skewed as young, just pick an age, teen, specifically, and stick with it. Her romanticism and the like would allow her to explore this curiosity. I also would keep the jokes Elena made about thinking of her dad in that way. With the Dad, he'd be reluctant from the start, his existential crisis coming early and it would be D's willingness that comforts him and allows him to explore his own feelings without guilt. I'd take my time, but they'd have sex before they left the island. And then, they'd also have sex in the hotel on fight night, only, this time it won't be the act of pure passion that it was the first time on the island, it will be more of a planned event that the two of them enter into.
The reason for this is, Dots is using sex incorrectly in the game. He's treating it as if it's the reward, as it it's the driving force for us playing the game. But as I said at the start, Dots has a great incest plot. First game is and should be about getting over the hurdle together slowly evolving into keeping it a secret. 2nd game throws all that progress into limbo, Dad is worried that he's gonna lose his little girl again, and after what they've become, he can't bear it. D wants him back as well, the first man she's ever loved or been intimate with. And the fact that they have to keep it a secret, which Dots has already made a huge focus in the 2nd title, is a perfect motivation for the game. Yes, there should be sexual stuff. But no, it shouldn't be this very exaggerated stairway to heaven that just makes people feel like they're grinding.
I did not realize there was any logic applied to porn games, IMO they are just virtual and most of the time nothing applies to real life. There are no consequences for the mc or characters for example: STD's and normally if the mc is male they are the only male so no natural competition. In the case of incest games the females, allow themselves to shagged by their family member, because it is considered normal.
I do not think I have played a porn game that has logic or consequences for actions, normally the females are just holes for the mc to shove his horse dick in.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you're not playing the right games then. There are plenty of games with great attention to detail. Sure, STDs are not a big issue, and pregnancy is seemingly rare, but those are easy to explain, most of the characters involved are virgins or have only ever fucked other virgins. There are exceptions to this, of course, but the point stands that disease could be prevented, and pregnancy, maybe everyone is on Birth Control.
In my own incest game I committed to a violent rape that people would be initially turned off by to justify the later development of an incestuous relationship between the victim of the rape and the sibling who saved them. In my other title I'm slowly dropping hints about a villain who won't be revealed until much later so that when it happens people will be like.. oh shit, I should have seen it coming, rather than, well that was dumb. And I'm not sacrificing the porn to get there.
