What trope are you tired of seeing in adult games?

[dusty stu]

Daz and HS models being turning into VNs by the truck load.

 

[lancelotdulak]

No offense but whenever someone says tha X fetish "is easy to write", unless the one saying it is a dev with experience or

Trope noun literature Something recurring across a genre or type of literature, such as the ‘mad scientist’ of horror movies or ‘once upon a time’ as an introduction to fairy tales. Similar to archetype and cliché but not necessarily pejorative.

Ive written adult fiction. Actually developing a game now...
Er.. wait youre not a dev but youre gatekeeping people who arent devs making comments?

 

[lancelotdulak]

Daz and HS models being turning into VNs by the truck load.

Theres a reason for that... Creating a human 3d model from scratch is a HUGE deal and very few people are even capable. Daz models are so popular because theyre stunningly good. Even taking a model you created from elsewhere and importing it into daz is a huge deal and yes you want it to be in daz.
People use HS because theyre not modellers etc and want good easy 3d to tell their story.
I do get where youre coming from seeing the same models over and over and the same art style is meh.
On an upnote Nvidia is releasing the 3070 next month and it will be a gamechanger. Quite literally everyone who bought a 20 series is viscerally angry you will be able to buy a 30 series that is MUCH faster.. for far less money. That will mean more, higher quality renders ,faster.. much faster

 

[lancelotdulak]

Yes! and that weird warping some like to do just makes it worse.
And every man in the game world loves it, every woman is either jealous or turns lesbian/bi (which is nice sometimes if it is

I always figured this was a fetish? Some of the models in some games are... just so bad and inhuman. Especially the ones where the females would literally be crippled at puberty from carrying around 300 pounds of breast
I dont get why peole think the "mc is a ninjaciawarriorgod who walks in a room and every female turns into a whore instantly" is alluring or not weird .Oh and superninjasoldier is also a why young man just returning home who's lonely and shy and also a game developer

 

[Adabelitoo]

Trope noun literature Something recurring across a genre or type of literature, such as the ‘mad scientist’ of horror movies or ‘once upon a time’ as an introduction to fairy tales. Similar to archetype and cliché but not necessarily pejorative.

Ive written adult fiction. Actually developing a game now...
Er.. wait youre not a dev but youre gatekeeping people who arent devs making comments?

Who said I'm not a dev or I don't have writting experience? But even if I wasn't, the key difference I see is that I'm not saying "X thing is easy" when I have no knowledge or experience about X thing.

For example I've seen here in drawn games people complaining about "lazy" or "low effort" artist. I would like to believe that all of those people can do anything better than a stick man because if they don't then what do they know to say that an artist was lazy or didn't put too much effort on it? Drawing is way more than just pressing a pencil over paper. Besides all the different styles and techniques, it takes hundred of hours of practice to be decent. If players don't like it and say it then that's perfect, but if they will call "lazy", "bad" or "low effort" when the last time they drew was in kindergarten, then no, I don't think that makes any sense at all.

It isn't something porn exclusive either. "X actor sucks" says someone who never acted in his life. "If those were my kids, they wouldn't have done that" says someone without childrens. It's part of the Wisdom Paradox: The less you know, the more you think you know. The more more you know, the more you know what you don't know.

 

[lancelotdulak]

Who said I'm not a dev or I don't have writting experience? But even if I wasn't, the key difference I see is that I'm not x:

Youre convincing yourself that youre being.. logical and practicing critical thinking.. but youre not. People are indeed allowed to critique things they arent experts on or dont do. Or should we remove the comment section and fan reviews .. from everything

 

[Adabelitoo]

Youre convincing yourself that youre being.. logical and practicing critical thinking.. but youre not. People are indeed allowed to critique things they arent experts on or dont do. Or should we remove the comment section and fan reviews .. from everything

Lol, of course not. Quote the part where I made you think that people can't comment because it wasn't my intention at all. What I said is that there is a big difference between "I don't like it" (personal taste/opinion) and "the artist is lazy" (talking about someone else's work) and the last one, unless the player has experience about what he is criticizing, doesn't makes to much sense because the player doesn't have any criteria to compare or judge the artist's work besides his own preferences, and preferences are tricky because the whole word has different preferences.

My best friend the other day told me that a popular singer in my country with over 30 years of experience sucks (at singing of course) but he is booed even while singing in the shower. If he wants to post that the singer sucks on Twitter then go ahead but it doesn't makes any sense. The difference between "I don't like how she sings" and "She is a bad singer" exists.

Anyway, this is getting off-topic.

 

[Madlust]

I hate games with just a map to repeat bored things, day after day, with the same conversations, same day at school, work, or whatever place you need to visit everyday day until get the stuff or money, or event to continue the plot. Or worst when a game has a standard plot and make this "sandbox game style" with stupid things to do because the game has no real content at all, and gives you "that things" to spend time because without that, you would finish the game in ten minutes.

 

[TheAmazingRolandder]

unless the player has experience about what he is criticizing, doesn't makes to much sense because the player doesn't have any criteria to compare or judge the artist's work besides his own preferences, and preferences are tricky because the whole word has different preferences.

Disagree. Otherwise there would be no such thing as a Professional Critic. Hardly any of them actually do or have every done anything in the field they critique for a living.

This isn't to say that all amateur criticism is fine and valid. Lots of it is dumb and awful and your singing friend sounds to be more in that category - but that has fuck all to do with his own inability to sing. It has everything to do with him not knowing what the hell he's talking about not because he hasn't spent years analyzing different singers and is mistaking his opinion for fact.

But you do not have to do a thing to critique a thing. The best criticisms come from people who don't do the thing but study the thing. If you only listen to people who do the thing, you end up creating art for people who create art, not for the audience you're actually aiming for.

 

[amBest]

I have a some advice before I'll get to my list. If you're not interested in my thoughts at all, just what tropes I will never accept, they will be at the bottom, with a differently colored heading.

DISCLAIMER: I shall be using cringe language, and being intentionally edgy. The list on the bottom will be tame though.

I've been reading this thread, and I have to say - while I do understand everyone's gripe, some of the most disliked tropes listed here, are by far the most popular and profitable tropes. Like, by far. It's not even a contest.

IMHO don't decide by what the outspoken minority wants, decide by what you want. That being said, ofc, reading the market and asking people is important. But do your due diligence.

Imho

• If you want money, go with the popular tropes no matter how disliked they are.
• If you want to express your creativity, do your own thing
• If you want long term support, but probably not a lot of money, pick a niche
• ALSO DON'T EXPECT TO MAKE MONEY. You probably won't.

Counter argument to what most other people have said in this post

I for one, am 100% happy to be the contrarian and go against the flow. It's my favorite thing in the whole wide world. You know what I like?

• incest
• rape
• ryona (beating up)
• humiliation, punishment
• bestiality
• scat
• ugly bastards
• porn cliches (fuck the real estate agent for a discount)
• user defined ages for characters

Yep, I'm the disgusting 4channer. Like really, I'm a 4channer. It's probably obvious.

I first started playing porn games about 15 years ago, I think. Still a teen. back then I played some really fucked up, strange and obscure flash games. The kind you won't even find on this site.

And for me, that's what porn games are for. If I want a romantic story, I'll read a book. If I want to see some people fucking with no context, I'll watch porn. If I want to get off right this very second, I'll watch some hardcore porn, double anal, double fisting, vomit, whatever.

But why would I ever prefer a pron game over brazzers? One of two reasons.

1. Long chain of perverse events, where things that happened in the past matters.
   
   So this is your Book 1 of Four Elements Trainer, or Something Unlimited. I start with insulting katara, then forcing her to dress differently. I make her take slut walks in the village. Spit on her and humiliate her. In the end when I leave, she's now the town's bicycle (free use cum dump). It's different form porn becase a whole lot of shit happened, that isn't limited by a max length of 30-60 mins.
   
   It gets more perverted as it goes along and it builds up on what happened previously. LIKE A GAME.
   
   
2. When I make all of the decisions
   
   I'll compare this to the previous. There, I decided to go on the 4chan path, as opposed to the beta pussboy soy cuck path. I do decide what she wears and how to wear her hair and whatever. But that's tropes of the trainer games. I didn't actually decide anything in that game. Except the path, and how hard I pushed her. If I had gone the same path and pushed her less, she would have just been my personal cumdump / piss rag, but not the town cum dump.
   
   When I say "decide", I actually don't mean the torpe of 3 answers, only one is good. I mean I want to decide as much as possible. I would like to decide where to go, who to pursue, how to interact.
   
   I don't want all my choices to be a stat change. Nor do I want all my choices to matter. Have you ever played witcher 3? There you have a lot of discussion options, a la baldur's gate. Some inquisitve, some not. Some necessary, a lot not. I can chose to be nice, or not, be aggresive, be sarcastic, and a lot of other things. Even ask questions and learn more about stuff that isn't plot relevant. A lot of the discussions there don't even have a hidden variable behind them.
   
   Right at the start, I can decide if I want to chastise Ciri or not. It doesn't matter, she won't "remember that" (a la tell tale). She just answers naturally. I chastise her, so she proves me wrong. I criticse her footwork, she goes above and beyond and does amazingly.
   
   I want to push the story in what direction i want. But that requires time and effort and very few games do that. If that is not on the table, at least let me have the ability to converse with people, so that I can decide how they talk.
   
   Let me be nice with my family and the people I love (coincidentally, the exact same people), but don't force me to also be nice with the douchbag. Let me fucking deck him, break his nose, then I can return to my "landlady" and seduce her to pregnancy.

Closing note on my oppinions

I also happen to be a patron of the games I like most. But I'm not a simp who'll just give you money in exchange for bath water. I'll give promising games a good 15$ to get them started. Is not the full price of the game, but if they do finish it, I'll give them some more. Depending on how good it is.

THAT BEING SAID, I am a patron of niches. I've been giving blue axolotl money for - at least a year now? Deff over 100$ If I see a game pushing the boundries, going into the downright socially unacceptable, I help those fine gentlemen.

Tropes I'm tired of

• I'm personally not into vanilla porn. There are so many other sources for it, I just don't have the hours in a day to click a vanilla game. Sorry.
  
  
• I hate games that don't know what they are. Are they porn games or romantic stories with lewd acts. You can't be both. If you have a harem with every member of your family and your dog, don't try to be realistic about it. You can't.
  
  
• Realism is fine, but do it correctly! You doing an incest game? Then you kinda have two options IMHO. Either rape and blackmail. Or your other family members were already perverted deviants.
  
  Your mom wanted to suck your cock dry when you were a shota. She didn't suddenly decide she wants your babies the night you turned 18. Have her groom you. Or if you don't have the balls to do that, at least imply it.
  
  Have the tsundere sister. But show how incredibly horny she is while the MC can't see her. Make her a fucking deviant. Otherwise stick with rape or porn logic.
  
  
• No more manlets. I promised to use nice language here, I would use a very different word for this kind of MC.
  
  
• If you make a shota game, at least be a man about it and make a patch. Looking at you "The Twist".
  
  
• Sandboxes are only good if the developer knows what they are doing and put a lot of extra effort into them.
  • If the world is empty, why is it a sandbox?
  • If I have to do things in a certain order, why is it a sandbox?
  • If I have nothing to discover on my own, why is it a sandbox?
    • Also plz, don't make me have to click everything -_-
    • Also plz, don't make random events
    • Also plz, don't make something only one day during one hour, that is stupid and tedious
  • Put character indicators on the map so I don't have to explore empty buildings
    • You can still hide stuf in empty buildings, but hint in the story about it, not just a single line in a pdf file that I would rather not have to use in the first place
  • Understand that I wont be playing your game, just your game, and nothing but your game. I will play other games. If I have a bunch of tasks, or things that I have to remember. I won't. Make a fucking task list.
    
• Ren'py or fuck off
  
  
• Sometimes grind is ok. But don't make it pointless, random, and unguided. Have a hint system, a cap, make it make sense without having me to unren the game and look in the source code THANKYOUVERYMUCH
  
  
• Stupid body proportions. Sure you want to make a bootlicious character.
  • But when her ass looks like a botched operation ... maybe you went too far.
  • When har asshole captures light and mass and nothing except radiation can escape, maybe her ass is too big.
  • If her booobs are so big, she can't write on paper while sitting down, maybe stop.
    
• This only applies to RPG maker games, those people have their own stupid shit. But plz don't make the game mechanics be the opposite of the purpose of the game. If I play a porn game, I want to see porn. Duh.
  If in your game, the only way to advance is to not get hit. But the only way to see porn is when you loose and the monsters rape you and leave your preggo ... maybe don't do that. Make the game in such a way that the rape and preggo shit is unavoidable, and the game is about surviving a certain ammount of time?
  
  
• Or you know what? Don't make complex game mechanics in a porn game FFS. I'm only using one hand and most of my blood is not in my brain.
  
  
• Ren'Py or fuck off
  
  
• No traps, or endgame screens. No "these are 3 options, but only one is correct". I forgot the dev that does this, but don't ever EVER have a 5th grade quizz with 30 questions that have multiple choice answers that I won't know if I did anything correctly and I absolutely have to download a mod just to tolerate your game for 5 straight minutes.
  
  
• Ren'Py or fuck off

 

[SpoiledPrince]

*Oversized sexual attributes, even if it justifies the lack of brain irrigation in some characters

*BB: Bodybuilders and bears. Come on, guys, you CAN make bara without them, just focus on realistic male relationships/sex

*Furries. For every time you think of fucking a lion/tiger/whatever, a kitty takes its own life. And I can totally relate.

*Cock hypnotism. Look at my cock, look at it. Isn't it nice and hard? Oh yes it is. Concentrate. There's nothing in the world but you, me and my big, juicy, sometimes incestuous dick. That's it. Now you're brainwashed, darling.

*The only eligible bachelor/ette in the world: the no-rivals dynamics is really boring. Gathering conquests sounds as fun as picking berries from a bush.

*Voyeurism and stalking as the mandatory previous steps in a relationship. No further explanation needed.

*Buying presents equals buying love: keep the money flowing, baby. Let your LI be your pimp too.

*The fuggly fat bastard that cucks MC: Ok, I get it. The game is hetero and NTR, but give us a dastardly handsome dude at least. A superior male full of evil wit and raw masculinity who has beaten MC at the sex game fair and square, not a repulsive baboon. The power of sex is not so mighty.

*Rape them 'til they love it: the chances of someone getting enamoured with their rapist/s are close to zero. Stochkolm syndrome is far more complex than a couple of hard cock-thrusts and semen on your face as humilliation. Whenever I watch all those feisty warrior-types getting the ahegao faces and submitting I feel like my own neurons are dying in unison.

*Love at first fuck: Oh no, someone took my virginity! I'll have to love them forever!


*Sissyfication will give you a womb: and other "science" shenanigans. Can't we let a man in a dress or negligee remain a man in a dress or negligee for once, without changing his sex, please? Let it be a BDSM dress-up play instead of a fairy godmother thing giving a guy the tits he always wanted (without knowing it himself). Transvestism doesn't neccessarily equal transexuality.

*Shotas/lolis: just no. If you're going to put kids in your game, DON'T include them in the sexual scenes. If they are 18, they shouldn't look 12.

*All women are bisexual: and love to get it on before the male MC, because that's what bisexuality is about.

*Peaceful harems with 5-somes: real life harems were anything but XD Catfights were frequent even in cultures where women were raised to be part of a plural marriage. Polygamy is sustained on a very delicate, fragile equilibrium and butts exposed and aligned on a row, waiting for their turn, is not it. The more the people, the greater the struggle. All those women finding out you had sidegirls and that you've got them all pregnant without grabbing an axe right away is not very realistic, my dudes.

*Sexual-scene ending: So you've laid with the guy/lady you intended... what now? A three paragraphs epilogue, of course. Now you have fulfilled your sexual destiny, your life and the game are over.

*Having sex makes you brainless: being fucked stupid is meant to be a simple saying, not an actual thing

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Describing a dick (or anything really) as "soft as velvet." Also, ignore the terribad writing in that screenshot.

I'm pretty sure you've spent half your life with your dick in your hand and you think it's "soft as velvet?" Do you even know what velvet is? I think describing anything as "soft as velvet" is pretty cringy, even on a woman, but at least there I can understand that it plays into general stereotypes/ideals of how women are soft and delicate, etc. But how did this ever become an acceptable way to describe something on a dude?

blah blah blah

Nice dissertation worthy of a 4chan autist, I agree with most of it.

*The fuggly fat bastard that cucks MC: Ok, I get it. The game is hetero and NTR, but give us a dastardly handsome dude at least. A superior male full of evil wit and raw masculinity who has beaten MC at the sex game fair and square, not a repulsive baboon. The power of sex is not so mighty.

That's misunderstanding what a lot of people find hot about NTR. It's not a weird coincidence that a lot of NTR games involve old, fat, or ugly guys. For many people it's not just about "losing" to some better guy, it's the added humiliation of seeing your girl get fucked by the hobo down the street.

 

[pharal]

For many people it's not just about "losing" to some better guy, it's the added humiliation of seeing your girl get fucked by the hobo down the street.

I don't think NTR is very descriptive in itself, because some see NTR as anyone but the main character messing with your girl or even potential girl. Sometimes people thing that prostetution is NTR. Sometimes they think that a MMF 3-some is NTR. Sometimes they think that anyone in a relationship with your potential future squeeze is NTR.
It is a floating concept on this forum.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

I don't think NTR is very descriptive in itself, because some see NTR as anyone but the main character messing with your girl or even potential girl. Sometimes people thing that prostetution is NTR. Sometimes they think that a MMF 3-some is NTR. Sometimes they think that anyone in a relationship with your potential future squeeze is NTR.
It is a floating concept on this forum.

Well, a lot of that is just people being whiny about any other male getting close to their waifu. But yes, NTR itself isn't a very helpful tag because it encompasses a lot of different shit. I guess the tag is helpful for people who want to avoid it at least, not that it prevents them from showing up in every NTR game thread to leave a "this has NTR, I'm out" post.

It's not really that helpful for people who like NTR though, because one man's NTR is another person's "wait, what?" Like I'm more into the "softer" aspects of it like sharing or cuckolding, but NTR that's literally just there to show you losing your girl to another man is kind of not my thing. But I understand that some people like that.

 

[Jash83]

You know what I'm sick of seeing? Sissification. You know what I mean: games where you play as a guy who gets bullied, forced, coerced, blackmailed, pressured, or even outright raped into becoming a girly cumpdump who exists to pleasure men, eventually learning that they love being raped because they love being a woman. I mean a bit every now and then is OK, you should try everything once, but I'm really sick of it being almost exclusively the way transgenderism is represented in games (apart from "the chick has a dick just because futa is hot" which doesn't even count).

I imagine a lot of people don't even think about or realise this, but the way the stereotypical sissification story outlined above is presented is actually really, really offensive and bigoted. It manages to hit the triple score of being simultaneously transphobic ("A man becoming a woman is a degrading, shameful, humiliating thing"), homophobic ("No man can enjoy sucking or riding cock, so any who do aren't 'men', they're sissies" which leads to either "A man who sticks his cock into other men doesn't count as gay because they're not 'men', they're sissies" or "Gay men are cruel rapists who want to turn other men into their cum dumpsters"), and misogynistic (either "Women are cum dumpsters who exists to please the cocks of men, which is what all sissies should be turned into" or "Women are sadistic, ball-cutting harpies who turn men into sissies"). Maybe a lot of the sissy game developers don't really think this way, maybe they haven't even considered the implications of what they make, but most sissification stories really do approach their content from a position of fear and contempt where being turned into a sissy is treated as the worst fate in the world, because nothing could possibly be worse for a man than being forced to become *dun dun DUUUUN* a woman!

There really aren't that many games that approach sissy transgenderism from a sympathetic viewpoint. Sissy Maker is probably the only one that springs to mind, where sissy lead (not playable protagonist) Chris is a man who's trying to transition into a woman, and is presented as a promiscuous slut, but a fully-aware one who is completely unashamed. It's still ambiguous about whether Chris really believes themself to be a woman or just a feminine gay man, or possibly even a "third gender", but it's better than almost all the other games I've played where being "sissified" is a degrading thing that's forced on you in the most humiliating fashion. I'm sure some people are into that, but it shouldn't represent the majority of trans gaming content. At the very least, games need to know more about the subject to differentiate properly between "trans woman" and "gay transvestite man", because it takes more to turn a man into a woman than just forcing a cock down his throat.

 

[DaClown]

You know what I'm sick of seeing? Sissification. You know what I mean: games where you play as a guy who gets bullied, forced, coerced, blackmailed, pressured, or even outright raped into becoming a girly cumpdump who exists to pleasure men, eventually learning that they love being raped because they love being a woman. I mean a bit every now and then is OK, you should try everything once, but I'm really sick of it being almost exclusively the way transgenderism is represented in games (apart from "the chick has a dick just because futa is hot" which doesn't even count).

I imagine a lot of people don't even think about or realise this, but the way the stereotypical sissification story outlined above is presented is actually really, really offensive and bigoted. It manages to hit the triple score of being simultaneously transphobic ("A man becoming a woman is a degrading, shameful, humiliating thing"), homophobic ("No man can enjoy sucking or riding cock, so any who do aren't 'men', they're sissies" which leads to either "A man who sticks his cock into other men doesn't count as gay because they're not 'men', they're sissies" or "Gay men are cruel rapists who want to turn other men into their cum dumpsters"), and misogynistic (either "Women are cum dumpsters who exists to please the cocks of men, which is what all sissies should be turned into" or "Women are sadistic, ball-cutting harpies who turn men into sissies"). Maybe a lot of the sissy game developers don't really think this way, maybe they haven't even considered the implications of what they make, but most sissification stories really do approach their content from a position of fear and contempt where being turned into a sissy is treated as the worst fate in the world, because nothing could possibly be worse for a man than being forced to become *dun dun DUUUUN* a woman!

There really aren't that many games that approach sissy transgenderism from a sympathetic viewpoint. Sissy Maker is probably the only one that springs to mind, where sissy lead (not playable protagonist) Chris is a man who's trying to transition into a woman, and is presented as a promiscuous slut, but a fully-aware one who is completely unashamed. It's still ambiguous about whether Chris really believes themself to be a woman or just a feminine gay man, or possibly even a "third gender", but it's better than almost all the other games I've played where being "sissified" is a degrading thing that's forced on you in the most humiliating fashion. I'm sure some people are into that, but it shouldn't represent the majority of trans gaming content. At the very least, games need to know more about the subject to differentiate properly between "trans woman" and "gay transvestite man", because it takes more to turn a man into a woman than just forcing a cock down his throat.

I have been preparing a whole thread on this topic, but I want to note that sissies are not necessarily trans women. There's important and significant conceptual, cultural, philosophical, and semantic differences between futanari, newhalf, sissies, trans women, intersexed people, non-binary people, shemales, cross dressers, drag queens, and so on. It is sometimes the case that cis or trans women are sissies.

So I'll contribute this as a trope I am really tired of seeing: the trope where sex, gender, sexual orientation are all mashed down into super-simplified and grossly misrepresentative caricatures.

As some of the people on this site have stated in various threads, a man that is transformed into a body with a vagina instead of a dick and enlarged breasts is not necessarily a woman and does not necessarily ever become a woman; this is distinctly different than a person who originates in a phenotypical male-coded body but transitions to a femme body particularly voluntarily. This is viscerally important for players playing those scenarios because the distinctions and differences matter. A straight man protagonist put into a female-coded body that goes around sexually assaulting women is still a straight man.

Someone who is socially coded as a man that is transformed into a body with "feminine features" can be a woman and may become a woman. A woman that is in a body with decidedly "unfeminine features" can be a woman and may become a woman whether she gains feminine features or not.

One of the patterns that bothers me is the one where a trans woman is treated as necessarily gay and attracted to men. It is true that some trans women are attracted to cis or trans men, but it is not the case that all or most trans women are attracted to men.

The archetype of the sissy isn't generally a trans character but a cis man's power fantasy; it is generally a subjugation fantasy to either a specific man or to masculinity and patriarchy as an overarching ideal; in that regard, it is inferior masculinity modelled as the sissy asserting the dominance of superior masculinity over them and non-men. In some cases, it is a coercive fantasy about being subjected to the same abuse that is imposed against women. A forced feminine perspective fantasy. Though the majority of such media produced here and on Pornhub and the likes is produced by cis men for cis men against insecure men. The next largest chunk is cis women producing a form of porn for cis men as a kind of revenge fantasy and a means to pay the bills.

Similar criticisms can be leveled at lumping bisexual with gay or the very well articulated failures of the lesbian genre in the games here. And the whole "male protagonist XOR female protagonist" discourse oversimplifies things; there are far more options than "male protagonist XOR female protagonist"; there's a lot more opportunity for character growth and transformation when the sex or gender of the protagonist can be non-binary and not simply a "third gender". A cis male protagonist that is strictly heterosexual is very different from a queer male protagonist or a non-binary male protagonist or a trans male protagonist or a trans man protagonist, and there's a lot more possible variation if you go beyond grossly overconstrained models like homosexual XOR heterosexual.

In game mechanical terms, I dislike when gender or sex are slammed into a strict binary spectrum or into binary spectra where you are male (x points) xor female (-x points). Or where the sexuality/sexual-orientation slider is between the extremes of heterosexual to homosexual sometimes with bisexual at the midpoint and without a slider for monosexual to non-monosexual. Bisexuality might intersect at a point through the enforced monosexual binary, but bisexuality is not encompassed or comprehended by such modeling.

 

[Deleted member 1532960]

I'm sick of piss being everywhere. Like I appreciate giving the piss fetishists what they want but good lord that's not for me, so quit making it optional or leaving it unmarked.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

It manages to hit the triple score of being simultaneously transphobic [...], homophobic [...], and misogynistic [...].

Yes and that's the whole point of the sissy fetish and what makes it fun. Congratulations, you got it.

A sissy isn't a trans girl. At least not necessarily. Sissification is not supposed to be a respectful representation of a real transitioning. It's a fetish that can range from cross-dressing for the purpose of humiliation in a femdom context to forced emasculation, forced bi-sexual relationships, and eventually even full-time feminization. But neither of these things mean the sissy is actually transitioning genders or becoming "gay." It can all be in the service of a D/s relationship.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

I'm sick of piss being everywhere. Like I appreciate giving the piss fetishists what they want but good lord that's not for me, so quit making it optional or leaving it unmarked.

wtf, I can barely find any games with good piss content

 

[VNON]

sand-box is shiit