Just browse japanese pregnancy games. It's like an invasive species, especially in RPGMaker stuff.
What trope are you tired of seeing in adult games?
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- Jul 18, 2017
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Would you like to be a chad bro and point out some piss games so that I can avoid them, plz ?
- Jun 14, 2020
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I really dislike when people include intersex/trans people who are obviously intersex and/or trans, but instead use the more fetishistic type of words. Like, what I am referring to is when they have the story of "I wanted to become X" but just don't use the proper terms when it'd mean a whole lot to see trans-positive stuff for once.
And do note I know I am talking on a porn site, and fetish stuff is fine. Just wish some things were taken a bit more seriously or thought about rather then labelin' people a "shemale."
And do note I know I am talking on a porn site, and fetish stuff is fine. Just wish some things were taken a bit more seriously or thought about rather then labelin' people a "shemale."
schools a ok, i dont understand how virgins get to Universitys?. Sorry my Engrish.
- Sep 7, 2017
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I guess I know the game you're talking about
And despite it's my favourite game, I agree on your opinion ^^
I hate games where you see nudity in the first 5 minutes of playing. Idk it makes the whole game boring for me because I wanna "work" for it.
- Aug 25, 2017
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I think you missed the point of those games, dude. I think sissification is related to cock and ball torture in that it's intentionally emasculating. The target audience of those games aren't trans or closet trans people, it's men who think putting on a skirt and having their man-card revoked is exciting. They fantasized about being treated like a sexual object for other people's pleasure. I don't see how that's different from something like having a vore or expansion fetish. Like you wouldn't assume that people are misrepresenting cannibalism or eating disorders, right? Or what about people who put on animal ears headbands and a buttplug and pretend to be a slutty pet? You wouldn't complain about how unrealistically they're portraying the social dynamics of a domesticated animal, would you?
I can't say whether or not we have too many sissification games, but I definitely don't think it's meant to be a social dialogue of any sort.
Can we get one thing fucking clear? I get what sissification games are about. They're about glorifying transphobia for illicit thrills, the same way rape games are about glorifying the objectification and abuse of women. Don't fucking lecture me about "not getting it". I fucking get it. And as the title of the thread kinda suggests here, I'm tired of seeing it.
You "can't say whether or not we have too many sissification games"? I can. And we do.
Seems like every fucking gay game that isn't furries or big hairy bara guys is about you being blackmailed into a dress and raped in the ass by a "real man" to put you in your divinely-ordained place, the same way that every incest game is about a teenage son peeping on his mother masturbating because she misses your dead father while your older sister is a bored slutty bitch and your younger sister is a impossible naive innocent who doesn't even know what a cock is until you teach her to stroke it. It's OVERDONE, especially as they're almost all the fucking same.
And as someone who actually WANTS some games that take a transgenderism and sexual discovery story seriously and is constantly searching the "gay" and "futa/trans" tag listing for interesting new games only to find more "put a pair of panties over your bitch-clit and bend over for a real man" games, I'm (again, as the thread title implies), tired of seeing it.
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My opinion at least, take it as you will
1. Girls meeting the MC for the first time and already wanna have sex with him.
2. Random incest (Mc turns 18 and all of a sudden the whole fam wanna fuck after they saw his big dong in the morning...wtf?)
3. The perverted protagonist (It gets old eventually, you know)
4. the Adult games where they try to have a story but it turns into BANGBROS (if you know you know)
5. The "O wow it bigger than your fathers" story
6. The no show father stories
7. Lack of any or no male friends in the game due to "competition" yikes. (This may not be related, but I remember this one game where the MC was the last male in the world )
8. MC virgins that are magically good at sex.
9. Parody games where the characters are just lustful versions of their original counterparts. (A fan of parody games btw)
10. Boring Linear RPG games
1. Girls meeting the MC for the first time and already wanna have sex with him.
2. Random incest (Mc turns 18 and all of a sudden the whole fam wanna fuck after they saw his big dong in the morning...wtf?)
3. The perverted protagonist (It gets old eventually, you know)
4. the Adult games where they try to have a story but it turns into BANGBROS (if you know you know
)5. The "O wow it bigger than your fathers" story
6. The no show father stories
7. Lack of any or no male friends in the game due to "competition" yikes. (This may not be related, but I remember this one game where the MC was the last male in the world
)8. MC virgins that are magically good at sex.
9. Parody games where the characters are just lustful versions of their original counterparts. (A fan of parody games btw)
10. Boring Linear RPG games
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Not sure if anyone's already mentioned this but - Games that rely on Honey Select / Koikatsu / 3D Custom Maid / whatever Illusion or KISS 3D game to create CGs and to more or less abuse the wide selection of canned animations from those games. It's lazy and the narrative is almost never worth seeing something we could just see by playing those games. Even lower quality drawn or amateur 3D work is always much more interesting.
EDIT: ALSO! More due to my personal tastes I suppose but I find most Renpy/RPGM Harem or Vanilla games to just be wasted effort and ultimately boring. I'd rather more people tried more niche or extreme fetishes, even if it's just for the sake of variety. If you want faux incest porn you can just go on Pornhub. Though I suppose I don't represent most of F95 in that respect. For example, I don't have any interest in things like Futa, Vore, Inflation, Scat but I think there should be more games for people who do.
EDIT: ALSO! More due to my personal tastes I suppose but I find most Renpy/RPGM Harem or Vanilla games to just be wasted effort and ultimately boring. I'd rather more people tried more niche or extreme fetishes, even if it's just for the sake of variety. If you want faux incest porn you can just go on Pornhub. Though I suppose I don't represent most of F95 in that respect. For example, I don't have any interest in things like Futa, Vore, Inflation, Scat but I think there should be more games for people who do.
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I find ridiculous that mothers are always taller and bigger than their daughters, and that they always have massive tits and an ass bigger than the moon. I understand they must be hot to be desirable, but just give some variety (small breast, regular body ecc). Or better: there should be only fat and disgusting mothers so you do not even fantasize about banging them, and you just tell 'em "F*ck off old fart!" leaving home forever.
- Aug 25, 2017
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I don't doubt that you're tired of seeing those things, but you're talking about political correctiveness of an extreme fetish. You devoted an entire paragraph to deconstructing why one fetish is toxic. Hell, half of your criticisms could be applied to most of the games here. I don't assume people who enjoy incest games are actually interested in fucking their parents or siblings. I don't assume people who enjoy rape fantasies are snatching up random people to put into their sex dungeon. But you've made numerous accusations.
Ah yes, gay people won't rape me until they turn me into a woman first. Makes total sense.
Have you seen PornHub? That's like 90% of its content.
People can't help what they're into. When the fuck did it become okay to kink shame?
Clearly everything ever carries subliminal messages or exists at the cost of marginalizing another group. Next thing you'll tell me that people engaging in diaper play are making fun of people who have no control of their bodily functions or that furries are somehow promoting zoophilia.
I feel personally attacked. There's lots of pressure in Western society, especially religious backgrounds to avoid sex for fear of a lot of things - STDs, Sin, Unwanted Pregnancies, Depression, Anxiety. You get enough pressure for these things its pretty easy for a few people here and there to slip through the cracks and stay virgins. Depression probably was the biggest one for me, I had interest in sex, but not interest in putting in the effort to get there. I just didn't give a shit. The girls that I knew didn't need much effort in, usually were pretty gross to me, so I had to first break out of that depression before I became right in the head. For the record there was a reasonable number of girls who were interested in me, but I never felt the same to them, or perhaps missed their attraction entirely, only to realize what it was later.
Some people are really bad at reading signs of attraction, and some people are also really bad about being misled by society about what constitutes an acceptable relationship.
I think the real question is not how virgins make it to a certain age still virgins, but how otherwise completely healthy / attractive individuals manage to stay virgins until they meet the MC, and then suddenly change their minds.
My biggest pet peev is when any character is too easily corrupted by a single cliche. The good girl wife who catches a glimpse of a BBC and is instantly converted into a whore is a typical example. Everyone has a wandering eye, but come on. If that's all he has going for him then it's not much of a story. Same issue if it's a guy who's cheating just because he found a girl with bigger tits or something. If that's all they have going for them it's just not enough IMO.
Sorry my engrish, but i want to say in games is ok to have lots of virgins in school settings, but lots of virgins in university settings a little bit off. This is games forum, right? Sorry if you feeled personally attacked.
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I have to say, I'm a little creeped out by it too, but I think it largely depends on the setting. Take Japan, for example. There's more pressure for Japanese people to do well in work and school. People don't date as much over there, and even fewer want to have children. A good number of people don't date at all and are virgins. There's a lot of pent up sexual frustration. Because of these things, there's a market over there for easy-to-win virgin love interests that want to make babies with you (and you don't have to be ashamed of being a virgin yourself).
In western countries, I'm kind of baffled. Like over here, people casually date and have casual sex. While college-age virgins do certainly exist (and you'd be surprised at the statistics. No, really, go google it right now), no one makes a big deal out of it. Here, people even consider you creepy if you only go for virgins.
I suspect that it's a matter of culture. Eastern porn seem to prefer shy, submissive women and western porn seem to prefer hypersexual and more aggressive women.
- Jul 27, 2017
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That's not wrong, but I feel like the trend in adult games kind of runs counter to a lot of mainstream western porn. Most of the highly successful games aren't about aggressive or hypersexual women, it's more about the MC becoming a total chad and seducing/dominating multiple innocent virgin (or quasi virgin) waifus, unless it's his mother, then she's allowed to not be a virgin I guess, though the father better be out of the picture and barely mentioned.
This kind of rubs up against the hysterical hatred of NTR, even a woman who has had other partners in the past is considered icky by many neckbeards. Women who are seen as promiscuous or "easy" are not attractive to a large part of the player base, while at the same time they see nothing wrong with wanting to build a harem and fuck every female they encounter in a game.
I like sluts and we don't get enough of them because of these factors. And by slut I don't necessarily mean your average "retard in lechertown" female MC who lets every homeless guy and dog gangbang her in an alley, but just a fairly realistic promiscuous girl like Vanessa in Long Story Short.
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I don't doubt that virgin or chaste characters are popular among a certain demographic, but I'm not so sure mainstream games really run counter to western expectations.
Milfs in western games are often portrayed as being sultry and direct, often eager to molest the protagonist with little warning. Younger women tend to be portrayed as sexually curious, eager to explore their bodies and openly admire the protagonist's, even the virgins. They are generally assured of their own desirability and it is usually up to the protagonist to earn their interest. Pregnancy tends to be optional and topics about it are usually one-off. There's rarely mentions of marriage and other long term goals between the protagonist and potential love interests. In short, they have sex for fun.
In contrast, eastern games seem to portray women to be starved for validation. They seem to take everything the protagonist does personally. Older women are often portrayed as reserved, ashamed of their lust and aging bodies. Younger women seem to emphasize insecurities their own bodies or personalities, seeking praise and reassurance from the protagonist. Up until the first sex scene, they'll often deny their interest of the male anatomy. There's almost always a "I wouldn't mind having your babies" line thrown in. Pregnancy (and marriage) tends to be unavoidable. In short, they have sex to bond.
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You hit the point right on the head here. Although it's been what... like 70 or so posts i've read of yours by now, i still can't get over your way of writing, but yeah.
Over here, in the Eastern culture, the demographic usually has a very active and busy Employment/Educational life and so forth. People rarely have the time to spend with one another, much less have the time to spend combing the population around them for the perfect partner. Once they find someone that really stick with them, it's usually on to the "Lifelong Partner" route.
Granted, i'm just talking about those that are ACTUALLY happy with who they choose. No wonder the "Mom/Dad works 18x7 and has no time for your shit or horniness" trope became so common, since really, time constraints are so omnipresent here.
Ya gotta get a good grade, a good job, a good daily work and health management schedule, maintain good cordial relationships with your co-workers (and even more if you're not a bottom of the line employee, but a medium to higher level executive.... sigh seriously, micromanaging so many people is taxing on the mind and stamina), attend big scale events regularly, and manage a constant growth in both life and achievements. And then there's the personal relationships aspect, maintaining it and your offspring's lives, getting upto date with times, and maintaining a good social image and reputation of you and your family and relatives. You fail that and society starts to see you differently. VERY Differently.
Sounds like something i'm blowing up by large proportions, but holy hell that's not true.
This leads to the underappreciated of the society to withdraw as much as they do. This includes women as well, even as times are changing and no longer women treated like marriage objects... mostly. People tend to think of the first person they find compatible to be their "SOUL MATE!", only to find years (or even months, heck) down the line that they are not entirely what they seemed to be at first, and then! Then what?
The comes the secretive side relationships. Dad dating co-workers, Mom hanging out with husbands of her friends. And what about little Timmy?
Well, he managed to ask out his crush in HS, and right on the first date, they bang like bunnies, and think to themselves "I found my perfect partner. Can't WAIT! to marry this girl and have a good life with her and my 16 kids (just kidding. Law states otherwise now)
This all sounds like fantasy to a recluse, that cannot get along very well with people. So they start to fill in that gap with the online world's "filling". Some people want the normal shy girl-lifelong partner feel, especially if they'd recently received some emotional hurt recently. Other times, they go for the kinks.
And that's what led to the rise of the Eastern porn industry as we know it today. It's like 70% of pure "emotional" bond, otherwise it's like a savage mating session full of kinks... for the days the consumer does not need to wind down after an exhausting day.
Lesbian porn ironically, the amounts which are consumed by the female demographic here, are not for their own inclinations, but the societal pressure where men still try to refuse acknowledging their abilities and performance, harkening back to the old days when they only existed to make babies and stay back on base (i use the word "base" loosely).
Shit, i can go on and on about how the culture here has impacted what people desire of a lustful session, but it's kinda bad to be honest. It almost feels like the content being generated from here reflects the inner hidden nature of what's been lacking over here. While i don't think it's a bad thing, it has seriously made quite some changes in society over the years.
Also, we are slowly opening up about topics of relationships freely here. It's one of the things we are still trying to adapt quickly from the western culture, because talking about relationships or sex openly is kinda like.... awkward around here. It's almost an absolute personal thing to share here, and which is why.... more and more people crave opening up about it.
And that's how the games and similar content generated over here reflect what we desire.
Personally, i believe i'm an odd one out around these places, but i get that what we don't say out loud, get "demonstrated" (heh) through this medium much more than anything.
Oh and through any kind of Art as well. These are the first few industries to break loose from the status quo.