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What trope are you tired of seeing in adult games?

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pharal

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Believable harems would be set in the Arabic world or some Asian dynasties of the past. There would be considerable political scheming by the harem members.

Actually that sounds like a pretty nice concept for a game.
I welcome the concept, however as someone said earlier in this thread, there is a difference between believable and realistic. A believable game does not need to conform to the rules or history of our world, it only needs to provide suspension of disbelief and make sense enough within the world of the game.
If the game is trying to claim that this is taking place within our world as it is now, it is not believable to fuck students and teachers in the hallway of school for instance. However a good game does not need to drop that concept, they merely need to create a world where that is possible which many games fail to do.
By this I don't just mean "Oh this town is just corrupted" or "suddenly Magic", but also "How is this possible to keep secret?" for instance. It could be that this is a world where the government is ruthlessly experimenting with behavior modification to subdue the population or it could be that this is a world where magic or powers run amok and this is one such effect. In any case it doesn't really take much to make a game more immersive, yet most just fail to do so.

Edit: Regarding my " this is a world where magic or powers run amok" idea: Don't just say it... show other things that are happening due to this. Make the magic or powers really be a part of the world.
 

Havik79

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So maybe it is time to change the thread name or close it, seeing as a lot of people have no fucking clue what a trope is, a chick who is a cunt but just wants to be loved is a trope or the movie where the black guy gets it first, or the hot chick is dumb and dies quickly, foot fetish, sandbox and grinding are not fucking tropes.
 
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Believable harems would be set in the Arabic world or some Asian dynasties of the past. There would be considerable political scheming by the harem members.

Actually that sounds like a pretty nice concept for a game.
Guess you never heard of David Koresh, and Branch Dividians.
While US law makes it illegal to legally marry more than one person there is nothing preventing people from doing so religiously or simply choosing to act as they are married. Honestly, I suspect it is only going to be a short time before polygamy is legalized.

The wording of most state laws could also allow for another option. Take Texas for example It says the individual commits an offense if he is legally married and he ... marries someone else.
Ignoring the fact the law is sexist in that it doesn't prevent women from doing so.

Lets say you aren't married and you marry two women at the same time using a single marriage certificate.
Not just that the women also involved also marry one another. Thus all parties are equally guilty. The state is now fucked if it only goes after one person. If it refuses to issues the marriage certificate to start with it opens an entire nest of legal problems for the state because the excuse they used to keep gays from getting married is the same one used to prevent polygamy(that it is against public policy and decency).

Honestly, I'm kind of tempted to do it myself just to put the law to the test in court. I figure they would most likely try and not issue the marriage license / certificate.
 
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Doorknob22

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When the MC starts dominating a girl and then we discover she actually likes it. Fark, this is annoying as hell.

I don't mind vanilla romantic games, they can be sexy as F. I certainly don't mind darker games which include non consensual sex story lines. But the gutless, unholy marriage of the two which IMHO is nothing but an exhibition of cowardice by the developer really irritates me. By using the lame "she actually likes it" trope the developer is attempting to distance himself from the controversial subject of non consensual sex while benefiting from its edginess. Yuck.
 

khumak

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When the MC starts dominating a girl and then we discover she actually likes it. Fark, this is annoying as hell.

I don't mind vanilla romantic games, they can be sexy as F. I certainly don't mind darker games which include non consensual sex story lines. But the gutless, unholy marriage of the two which IMHO is nothing but an exhibition of cowardice by the developer really irritates me. By using the lame "she actually likes it" trope the developer is attempting to distance himself from the controversial subject of non consensual sex while benefiting from its edginess. Yuck.
Everyone has their own preferences, but honestly I think most women want a man who's dominant. That doesn't mean they want to be abused but they don't want a guy who's constantly asking permission for anything and everything. Why do you think stuff like 50 shades of grey is so popular with women? They like a man who takes what he wants (as long as she's attracted to him). So yeah, there's a reason for all those scenes that a lot of people who lean towards feminism think are "rapey". Those scenes may not be PC, but a very significant percentage of both men and women want that (no idea if it's a majority but I would bet it is).

There's a hell of a lot of women who like to put up a little "token resistance". That doesn't mean they want the guy to stop. They want to pretend to resist for awhile and then give in. In a lot of cases, no does mean yes unless the body language makes it clear that she really does mean no. But these days that's kind of off the table which leaves a lot of people (both men and women) unsatisfied. Men don't get to be dominant like they want, and women are stuck with men acting like pussies because they're afraid of going too fast.
 

pharal

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I hate how it feels like 75% of these games have the MC be a complete idiot, a sociopathic sex criminal, or some combination of the two.
It isn't that this personality type isn't usable as an MC so much as it is that for some reason he is always well-liked by the people he creeps on, considered a smart person by those he tricks, and considered stealthily because nobody ever discovers him, because the others always forgets to lock their door and that he has the great skill of using a door handle.
In short: By being stupid and such an obvious pervert, the story is showing that all the other characters are even more stupid to a point of unreasonableness.
I think it is bad storytelling to let one character affect the whole world in that fashion and the best I can say is to use their stupid characters in a smart way.
 

khumak

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I've never been a fan of the creeper/sleep sex stuff. A little bit doesn't bother me (in fact I had a whole series of events for that in my mod by request). My biggest problem with it though is that it doesn't really make any sense to base any sort of relationship progress on it. The whole point is you're molesting someone in their sleep. They're asleep. They don't know about it so it can't improve your relationship with them. It can only make it worse if they wake up.

Peeking on people getting undressed or showering or whatever I find a lot more reasonable although I think that tends to be overdone in a lot of games.

I suspect a lot of it just comes down to ease of development. There's no dialog required for a creeper scene. There's no relationship building needed. You just sneak in and get what you want without waking her up. To me that strikes me as either lazy development or not enough writing experience (so they use creeper stuff to form a relationship instead of trying to write any sort of plausible dialog).

The closest thing to the typical sleep sex stuff that I actually like is the scenario where you already have a relationship with them that is close enough that they willingly sleep in the same bed as you do. Then either during the night or first thing in the morning one of you gets a bit frisky and intentionally takes it far enough to wake the other person up. To me that sort of scene works the best if things don't progress past the foreplay stage before they wake up. You don't want a girl to wake up with a dick in her mouth (although a guy wouldn't mind waking up to a morning blowjob).
 
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Rosequake

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For me, I think it's games where all NPCs automatically want to jump on MC's dick for no good reason. Half the time it's some spaghetti armed dweeb who hasn't done anything to impress anyone, and it just stretches belief beyond all suspension. I mean I get it - it's blatant wish fulfilment for a generation of teenagers full of hormones who just want to play out their fantasy of fucking everything that moves, but it's very rare for it to be written in a way that feels earned.

Oh, and scenes perving on someone in the shower. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a dazed game that doesn't include this as one of the first 'sexy' scenes, where you can choose to spy on someone or not.
 
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la.femme.amelie

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hm so many have already pointed out the tropes that have long worn out their welcome. how often do we see the typical big-boobed mom, big-boobed older sister, small-boobed younger sister, and the brother, whose in the middle, with a big cock? :rolleyes:

i wanna see lesbian incest!
 

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I as well am tired of unnatural body proportions. I was never a fan of porn games where the girl had melons bigger than their head that made dolly buster look flat in comparison, or the horse cock guy that can`t even wear swim trunks at the beach because his penis goes to his knees. I mean I have no problem with games like that because there are people who obviously like it and I hate the "What I don`t like shouldn`t exist" kind of people but sadly 70-80% of porn games have those morphed body type fetishes nowadays that for me just looks urgh and that makes it hard to find games that suit me.

Just give us normally shapped attractive human beings more often? What is so wrong with b or c cups? If someone is into giant boobs then I would appreciate an answer to this comment, because it actually interests me what they like about it.
 

obibobi

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Average looking women, for people who want to feel like they are deep for romancing average women in a game.

Most women should be highly erotic, extra thicc, when you literally design characters there is no reason to settle for average, when there's so many variations of above average.
 
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Vhaerun

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Average looking women, for people who want to feel like they are deep for romancing average women in a game.

Most women should be highly erotic, extra thicc, when you literally design characters there is no reason to settle for average, when there's so many variations of above average.
Out of curiosity, do you see that often in games? Maybe it is just me, but all of the games I've seen have near-perfect stereotype women (hourglass figure, nominally attractive facial and other features) for the LIs. An adjective like "normal" is mostly in the eye of the beholder. Which character would you consider normal?
 

Loganfin

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I'm so tired of short, skinny main characters! Why are so many of these guys about 5'6"??? In some cases, the female characters all tower over them. I get that this might be some sort of fetish for some people, but its so common that it drives me nuts.

Ideally, I'd like my male MC to be of about 6' tall and very fit. Doesn't need to be superman, just 20-50 and healthy of somewhat above average height.
 
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