VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[kameohawk]

Jeez, the plot of this game really drops off a cliff at the barn. What the hell?

 

[Schattenfang]

Can someone please update the i-patch on Lewdpatcher (or link to a separate in OP) with the fixed version from GetOutOfMyLab? Everyone is running into the jump typo of the patch, and the official link still points to the buggy version...

 

[dopey80]

I used to like this game the first couple of years it was out, but fuck me this re-write has really soured me on it. Basically everyone in it is a terrible person and it's almost played for laughs.

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makes it pretty much impossible to like most of the main characters, and Leia was an utterly unlikeable sociopath to begin with. Not sure I'll stick with it.

 

[weezal]

I used to like this game the first couple of years it was out, but fuck me this re-write has really soured me on it. Basically everyone in it is a terrible person and it's almost played for laughs.

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makes it pretty much impossible to like most of the main characters, and Leia is utterly unlikeable sociopath to begin with. Not sure I'll stick with it.

I swear in the original version most of the characters were assholes as well?

 

[Maviarab]

I swear in the original version most of the characters were assholes as well?

Especially Leia...think he is having selective memory issues. Only Dana was perhaps a decent person.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

A warning, if you are using the patch and go for NTR route on MC, after Krayt guy sucks her boobs there is game is shutdown abruptly.

Fixed.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

A warning, if you are using the patch and go for NTR route on MC, after Krayt guy sucks her boobs there is game is shutdown abruptly.

You can use my modified patch to continue.

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-beta-oceanlab.19856/post-12531073

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

You can use my modified patch to continue.

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-beta-oceanlab.19856/post-12531073

Oh thanks haven't noticed it was fixed, sorry.

 

[dopey80]

I swear in the original version most of the characters were assholes as well?

Yeah, but If I recall correctly fairly harmless assholes by comparison and there seemed to be at least a semblance of self-awareness. There just seems to be a blasé joking callousness now which is very off-putting. And that's before we get to the plot issues;

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[weezal]

Yeah, but If I recall correctly fairly harmless assholes by comparison and there seemed to be at least a semblance of self-awareness. There just seems to be a blasé joking callousness now which is very off-putting. And that's before we get to the plot issues;

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Yeah the plot is very... unusual. Its like a goofy sitcom sometimes with how ridiculous things are. But I don't mind tbh. I find it fun which is the most important part.

 

[Lady Lydia]

I used to like this game the first couple of years it was out, but fuck me this re-write has really soured me on it. Basically everyone in it is a terrible person and it's almost played for laughs.

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makes it pretty much impossible to like most of the main characters, and Leia was an utterly unlikeable sociopath to begin with. Not sure I'll stick with it.

Well frankly prostitution is the world's oldest profession, so being bothered by that is being prudish, so long as its consentual, who are you to tell someone in dire need for money what they are allowed to do to earn said money, unless you are willing to provide for said people, which is clearly not the case for most of the populace, you don't get to complain about it, as for drugs, exactly the same, drugs have been consumed for thousands of years, unless you are talking about the overly artificial or chemical lethal crap, well its no biggies.

As for the characters, the MC spent time in prison, that would strip alot of naivety out of him in term of illegal stuff, Miru is if you played the original clearly meant to be related to the some Yakuza, and the rest of the MCs family in this version are involved to some degree, so its no wonder they aren't fussing over it. Most of the characters already know about it, either were involved in equal or worst, otherwise either already exposed to the criminal aspects of life.

 

[Lady Lydia]

Yeah, but If I recall correctly fairly harmless assholes by comparison and there seemed to be at least a semblance of self-awareness. There just seems to be a blasé joking callousness now which is very off-putting. And that's before we get to the plot issues;

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Oh sweet sweet summer child, that is the least unrealistic aspect of the entire matter, also its clearly not publicly known that the Zane are involved in drugs, and Monica isn't involved with Leia, which would be the most questionable person there in term of criminality, also it seem Leia is likely running officially an escort service, not prostitution, and escorts are perfectly legal, but yea you think criminals don't have lawyers? Please, they have some of the best lawyers, also you think they don't have contacts in the cops? Again, organized crime tend to have a fair degree of legal cover, so long as they don't make things problematic for those of a legal leaning and give them their due under the table, they don't care.

 

[Manoman13]

Has anyone playing with the mod managed to load a save?

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Please, they have some of the best lawyers, also you think they don't have contacts in the cops?

Right lol? Not only that, it often goes both ways - cops will be aware of (and the dirtier ones have involvement with) local big pushers and movers.

 

[yossa999]

no cop or lawyer would maintain a friendship with someone with even tangential connections to drugs or prostitution, it would be career suicide, and that's before we even get to the problem of a doctor with a gangbanger husband.

Oh, you don't say, my man. It's true, I have a lot of friends in politics, but they wouldn't be friendly very long if they knew my business was drugs instead of gambling, which they regard as a – a harmless vice. But drugs is a dirty business.

 

[killed_kaykay]

Works fine for me. Do you have any errors or it just don't load the game at all?

It Doesn't load at all

 

[AntoniH13]

What the hell happened to this game?

As someone who played the original when it was first coming out, I can proudly say it was way more fun and engaging than the current version. While I do admit that the renders for the remake are vastly superior to the og, everything else kind of feels like a downgrade (Especially the story).

This feels like the dev is trying to make the story bigger than it really is. And don't even get me started on the update schedule. At least in the old game I understood everyone's position in the story. Katie was a little she-devil that was fun to provoke but was ultimately a sweet girl who acted out as a defence mechanism. The fact that she also had a crush on the mc but also had an inferiority complex because of the mc's focus on Leia added to her character. Hell, even og Zoey realized that she was into him the moment they met. Now remake Katie is kinda boring in comparison. Outside of some banter she's forgettable.

Miru has improved in some areas and somehow regressed in others. While her presence as the mc's gf in more notable, its concerning the amount of times she threatens physical violence on the mc when he says something that doesn't involve her. An example is the introduction of remake Dana. MC calls her jabba or fatty something as a joke between old friends. Then out of nowhere Miru comes in saying "Be grateful she took it as a joke or I'd break every bone in your body including your penis." like wtf? Where did that come from? Again, outside of her new design she doesn't have much going for her in terms of memorability.

Leia's character is weird. In the og she called the mc because of what happened to Helen but also used it as an excuse to get him back so that they could rekindle their past relationship. In the remake she doesn't even trust the mc so her calling him is completely random. And we don't even know if these two had a relationship in the past (which the og made clear very early on). Watching the og version strut and show off her dominace to the other girls made her memorable as she felt like a shark going after her prey (mc). Now outside of being angry with the mc and irritable about everything, her current version also isn't that compelling.

Not much to say about the mc except he seems so much more boring and somber now. OG counterpart was fun, relaxed and low-key a scumbag but very entertaining to watch. I mean he literally threw a cup a Katie in a bar from across the room for sh!ts and giggles, fought a racoon and got high in the woods!

As for poor Dana... This one hurts to much to even describe. Her old character was just so sweet and naive that it was actually endearing and made me root for her. Now she's a different person with the same name and different design.

In my opinion, the game has a lot of unnecessary drama.

 

[Nao-kun]

What the hell happened to this game?

As someone who played the original when it was first coming out, I can proudly say it was way more fun and engaging than the current version. While I do admit that the renders for the remake are vastly superior to the og, everything else kind of feels like a downgrade (Especially the story).

This feels like the dev is trying to make the story bigger than it really is. And don't even get me started on the update schedule. At least in the old game I understood everyone's position in the story. Katie was a little she-devil that was fun to provoke but was ultimately a sweet girl who acted out as a defence mechanism. The fact that she also had a crush on the mc but also had an inferiority complex because of the mc's focus on Leia added to her character. Hell, even og Zoey realized that she was into him the moment they met. Now remake Katie is kinda boring in comparison. Outside of some banter she's forgettable.

Miru has improved in some areas and somehow regressed in others. While her presence as the mc's gf in more notable, its concerning the amount of times she threatens physical violence on the mc when he says something that doesn't involve her. An example is the introduction of remake Dana. MC calls her jabba or fatty something as a joke between old friends. Then out of nowhere Miru comes in saying "Be grateful she took it as a joke or I'd break every bone in your body including your penis." like wtf? Where did that come from? Again, outside of her new design she doesn't have much going for her in terms of memorability.

Leia's character is weird. In the og she called the mc because of what happened to Helen but also used it as an excuse to get him back so that they could rekindle their past relationship. In the remake she doesn't even trust the mc so her calling him is completely random. And we don't even know if these two had a relationship in the past (which the og made clear very early on). Watching the og version strut and show off her dominace to the other girls made her memorable as she felt like a shark going after her prey (mc). Now outside of being angry with the mc and irritable about everything, her current version also isn't that compelling.

Not much to say about the mc except he seems so much more boring and somber now. OG counterpart was fun, relaxed and low-key a scumbag but very entertaining to watch. I mean he literally threw a cup a Katie in a bar from across the room for sh!ts and giggles, fought a racoon and got high in the woods!

As for poor Dana... This one hurts to much to even describe. Her old character was just so sweet and naive that it was actually endearing and made me root for her. Now she's a different person with the same name and different design.

That's what I've said before. The game didn't need a remake.

But after playing the game, I changed my mind. The OG was lacking in a lot of things. The New game made it better in terms of story-making and dialogue. It makes them more interesting and alive. The OG was bland now that I think about it.

 

[risky0]

It's a ntr/etc... focussed game.
The dialogues and characters in the game are completely designed accordingly.
If you turn off Ntr, you'll probably miss more than half of the content in the future.
Probably the game will have 3 main sexual routes ntr-sharing/swinger-love.
In any new update, this means that you will only be able to play one third of the content.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

It's a ntr/etc... focussed game.
The dialogues and characters in the game are completely designed accordingly.
If you turn off Ntr, you'll probably miss more than half of the content in the future.
Probably the game will have 3 main sexual routes ntr-sharing/swinger-love.
In any new update, this means that you will only be able to play one third of the content.

This is objectively wrong. If I hadn't just deleted the game after finishing the playthrough to save hdd space I would link a screenshot of searching through the script files by "if $ntrToggleVariable".

I had done that when I was trying to find the conditions for the MiruNtr03Continue scene, and there's very few condition checks.