VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[Ottoeight]

I played SG when 0.4.5 beta came out and I really liked it.

Therefore, I played WiAB 0.2 and I really disliked it. Still, I'm playing 0.3 from start and I still dislike it.

The biggest problem - in my opinion - is that William talks and acts like Nika, and Miru talks (same words and verbal expressions!!) and acts like Nami, but William & Miru are adults, and Nika & Nami are teenagers.

What's worse, I constantly have some sort of weird deja-vu feeling - could it be the music? the atmosphere? - I have the feeling that WiAB main characters are mimicking some SG main counterparts.

And with a reason: Ayua from SG MUST be William & Miru's daughter, and I can't help but think that Nika is William's son. Nami? she might be, too.

 

[yossa999]

I never loved you William my clan forced me to be with you so I could protect you. Uh, and also whenever we get intimate my love points for you decreased. Also if I have to choose between you and my clan, I'd fucking shoot you myself. Btw, never talk bad or even joke about my clan, if you do I'll give you a lengthy tirade of why we are the good guys. Yeah, that is correct, Helen and Dylan is also part of my clan and Dylan is the leader of it. They lied to you as well, everything you knew about you, yourself, your friends, your love, your family is a lie but don't dare to think badly of it if you don't want to hear the tirade again.

P.S. your life is in danger, we'll blame you for all of it, we'll try to cheat you also. Bye.

I'm on fuck'n reaction limit again
Not gonna lie, I'm slightly aroused.

 

[SamualHand]

To be fair Neb...let's be honest, you just don't like how it's done...here.

Pretty much every single film, book, comic...whatever...starts with people having pre-existing relationships and pasts that you know nothing about. Every...single...one. AVN's seem to be the enigma's...designed soley for the purp[ose of a no-name incospicious mystery MC for you to mold and insert yourself into. That is about as far from the reality of all other media (and real life) as you can get.

That is why in so many games the MC has amnesia.... to fuck them all, I mean to find out about themselfs.... I mean to

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Where are the real virgins? We need a virgin MC!

 

[Maviarab]

That is why in so many games the MC has amnesia.... to fuck them all, I mean to find out about themselfs.... I mean to

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Where are the real virgins? We need a virgin MC!

No we don't...given 98% of VN MC's are virgins who have never seen a woman befiore, let alone seen one naked (which honestly, given many folk on this site..I guess they pander to an accurate demographic lol).

 

[Clone002]

I'm getting this error on ntr path, when Miru goes to the bathroom with the gang guy. Can someone help me?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/Patch.rpy", line 11854, in script
$ renpy.pause(hard=True)
ScriptError: could not find label 'MiruNTR3x0Continuep'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 275, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\main.py", line 670, in main
run(restart)
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\main.py", line 144, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\execution.py", line 955, in run_context
context.run()
File "game/Patch.rpy", line 11854, in script
$ renpy.pause(hard=True)
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\script.py", line 1013, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'MiruNTR3x0Continuep'.

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.3.23091805

Wed Dec 27 12:22:11 2023

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I'm getting this error on ntr path, when Miru goes to the bathroom with the gang guy. Can someone help me?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/Patch.rpy", line 11854, in script
$ renpy.pause(hard=True)
ScriptError: could not find label 'MiruNTR3x0Continuep'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 275, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\main.py", line 670, in main
run(restart)
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\main.py", line 144, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\execution.py", line 955, in run_context
context.run()
File "game/Patch.rpy", line 11854, in script
$ renpy.pause(hard=True)
File "C:\Users\...\Downloads\WiAB-Chapter3-BETA-pc\renpy\script.py", line 1013, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'MiruNTR3x0Continuep'.

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.3.23091805

Wed Dec 27 12:22:11 2023

This should fix it: https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-beta-oceanlab.19856/post-12531073

 

[keefer43]

Nop.
1 year wait for a blowjob scene and a fingering scene, both with Miru.
Miru nude, Zoe, Katarina and Leia boobs flash.




Since the rework it takes at least 1 year for an update, so don't get ANY hopes, Ocean usually breaks his word, so don't trust this "update 3.5 comes quicker this time" nonsense.



Not even focused on Miru, 1 blowjob and 1 fingering after 1 year and 1 month wait, in a EROTIC game, can't be called focusing on a character.

.

I really can't understand why this game is here on a erotic games forum, it barely have any adult content.
Story is important, but come on, The Witcher 3 isn't here and have more sex and nudity that WIAB, and have story too.

Considering how almost EVERY single post since last update is about the story and nobody complaining about the lack of sex scenes after 1 year and 1 month of waiting, I don't think it'll change. IMO this game should be on a "normal" game forum, not on an erotic game forum, otherwise The Witcher 3 should be here too.

Helen: RaaaaaaWWWWWRRRRRR! - but no action, just teasing us.

 

[kameohawk]

I used to like this game the first couple of years it was out, but fuck me this re-write has really soured me on it. Basically everyone in it is a terrible person and it's almost played for laughs.

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makes it pretty much impossible to like most of the main characters, and Leia was an utterly unlikeable sociopath to begin with. Not sure I'll stick with it.

Yeah, the point mentioned in the spoiler ruined it for me. It's such an absurd about face. It almost feels like the issue is the complete lack of any set up. The game plays one way then BAM, the barn scenes happen and you're left going "wait what?"

 

[mommysboiii]

encouraging Miru to act in the porn.

this is something that really interested me how this will bite MC in the ass in the future will the antagonist see her on WIAB onlyfans and the lower tier kryta gang guy regonizer her and will tell it his boss?? and than they try to trick her that he perfromance with her in the video and slowly corrupt her and use miru against MC??? or they arange some guy that does it ?? or will leia us this too her andvantage and will get help and looking for a guy because leia can be pretty manipulative I am really exited what will ocean do with all the possibilities and gangs

so many opportunities for great story telling like plot twist ,intrigues,working against eachother like leia against mc ,mindgames ...... this game has so much possiblities I really wanna see what ocean is cooking I wish I had a time maschien

 

[kameohawk]

Most of the characters already know about it, either were involved in equal or worst, otherwise either already exposed to the criminal aspects of life.

I mean that's great and all but the person playing doesn't know about it and the game doesn't really tell you, which is usually the sign there's a flaw in the plot. You're meant to show, not tell but in the instance here it seems to do neither and just assume you know.

 

[Maviarab]

I mean that's great and all but the person playing doesn't know about it and the game doesn't really tell you, which is usually the sign there's a flaw in the plot. You're meant to show, not tell but in the instance here it seems to do neither and just assume you know.

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-beta-oceanlab.19856/post-12545286

 

[yossa999]

this is something that really interested me how this will bite MC in the ass in the future will the antagonist see her on WIAB onlyfans and the lower tier kryta gang guy regonizer her and will tell it his boss?? and than they try to trick her that he perfromance with her in the video and slowly corrupt her and use miru against MC??? or they arange some guy that does it ?? or will leia us this too her andvantage and will get help and looking for a guy because leia can be pretty manipulative I am really exited what will ocean do with all the possibilities and gangs

so many opportunities for great story telling like plot twist ,intrigues,working against eachother like leia against mc ,mindgames ...... this game has so much possiblities I really wanna see what ocean is cooking I wish I had a time maschien

Yeah, now I also want to see what comes out of this in the new version. In the old version, I just ignored her as best I could, she jumped on a few dicks and disappeared from my sight, so I was totally happy with that. But what a "real" open relationship would be like when the MC still loves her but lets her fuck around. I wouldn't mind sharing her with Katie or Daphne. But fucking Krayts? I'm not sure. This is weird

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah, now I also want to see what comes out of this in the new version. In the old version, I just ignored her as best I could, she jumped on a few dicks and disappeared from my sight, so I was totally happy with that. But what a "real" open relationship would be like when the MC still loves her but lets her fuck around. I wouldn't mind sharing her with Katie or Daphne. But fucking Krayts? I'm not sure. This is weird

Yup...old and new Miru are light and day....definitely looking forward to all her different paths.

 

[DA22]

this is something that really interested me how this will bite MC in the ass in the future will the antagonist see her on WIAB onlyfans and the lower tier kryta gang guy regonizer her and will tell it his boss?? and than they try to trick her that he perfromance with her in the video and slowly corrupt her and use miru against MC??? or they arange some guy that does it ?? or will leia us this too her andvantage and will get help and looking for a guy because leia can be pretty manipulative I am really exited what will ocean do with all the possibilities and gangs

so many opportunities for great story telling like plot twist ,intrigues,working against eachother like leia against mc ,mindgames ...... this game has so much possiblities I really wanna see what ocean is cooking I wish I had a time maschien

Yeah I get people can like all that drama and if this was an RPG or game I could murder everyone off that can be fun for sure and the females were only there to fuck and walk away. In a game about family and romantic interests that will be bothering and hanging around MC all his life though, well it works a lot less for me if you can not trust anyone to have your back or even care about you except to destroy you or put one over on you unless you behave perfectly as they wish you to. It is not for nothing an old Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times.

It may sound interesting in a story where you can burn all bridges behind you and move on somewhere else without anyone alive after all the fires burnt down, less so if you have to keep living with those characters. However much of an ass MC might be himself I do start to feel sorry for him then instead of envy him

Edit: Also same as the person above me said even in an open relationship it does make quite a difference if your girlfriend out of naivety or revenge sleeps with your enemies or someone that has no connection to you or you are on friendly terms with. I know what would happen if I came home and someone found out I slept with that female colleagues she hates. It would not be healthy for me, open relationship or not.

 

[Black Swamp Ent.]

This one has drastically changed since the last time I played it. In the last version I played (before the "rework") I really didn't like Miru and was fine letter her go, but now she's adorable and I wonder how it'll play out once the story progresses. The Katie/MC relationship seems odd though as they go from hate to love back to hate so quickly.

Overall I'm loving this rework, though the wait between each update could hamper things overall. Specially since they're working on another (good) VN at the same time.

 

[SweatyDevil]

I love this rework. The waiting is long but so far really worth it and I'm glad the ntr is slowly starting to kick in.

 

[kameohawk]

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-beta-oceanlab.19856/post-12545286

I appreciate the point about pre-existing relationships.... but there's a level. To quote the post from the link, " Pretty much every single film, book, comic...whatever...starts with people having pre-existing relationships and pasts that you know nothing about. ". Yes I agree with that, however at the same time for a story to be worth the effort of following, there's an unspoken agreement between the reader/player/watcher and the author where things which are pertinent to the plot will be eased in as opposed to just dumped.

For example, Strider actually being Aragon, son of Arathon in Lord of the Rings is a big reveal that fits in with the plot well. It sets up further story, justifies why the character is even there in the first place and doing what he's doing whilst enriching the character by reinforcing the motive of why he's doing the thing. That's a good story

In comparison, and I'll spoiler this just to be careful the MC of Where it all Began actually comes from a family that runs a drug ring out of a barn, who's in a gang war with some other random gang who's barely referenced beyond the fact they exist, and it seems most of the family is involved in it and none of any of this has ever been mentioned before up to that point, or even hinted at beyond a reference to a family member being in prison... that's weak plot.

 

[dopey80]

Yeah, the point mentioned in the spoiler ruined it for me. It's such an absurd about face. It almost feels like the issue is the complete lack of any set up. The game plays one way then BAM, the barn scenes happen and you're left going "wait what?"

It's utterly incoherent narratively speaking. The whole initial set up scenario for the game was a fairly ordinary guy from a fairly ordinary lower middle/middle class family getting the hell out Dodge due to the "complicated" relationship he had with both his sisters, but returning due to his mother's "accident". That "accident" being the consequences of the criminal activities of a ne'er-do-well uncle was also a good set-up.

From that we went to everyone being either involved in or okay with criminal/gangland or skeevy activity, with absolutely no set up.

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I honestly had to double check whether there was multiple writers for Oceanlab's games because compared to Summer's Gone (which also has plot/writing issues), or even the original version of this, the ridiculous tonal shifts and cringy dialogue here seem like the work of an edgy teenager.

 

[Cabin Fever]

The whole initial set up scenario for the game was a fairly ordinary guy from a fairly ordinary lower middle/middle class family

There never was any indication as to whether MC's family was rich or poor or middle class. The lower/middle/middle class family thing is strictly your own (and to be fair I suspect many other people's) speculation.

That "accident" being the consequences of the criminal activities of a ne'er-do-well uncle was also a good set-up.

There never was any implication that the accident was caused by the activities of the uncle. If fact Leia suspected it was related to Dylan, not uncle Joe, not to mention that Leia is for all intends and purposes the successor of Joe and the one responsible for expanding it significantly.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Just finished the update. Interesting that the OG Daisy got merged into OG Dana for the new Dana. A lot of the characters have their changes, but that seems the biggest one.

And for those complaining about the drama, I think that's where the OG game was headed too, we just hadn't gotten there yet. It was always gonna go that way.