VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[Joratox]

What was annoying to me was that Miru immediately mentioned a name on the list. And this is not fair, because such a relationship should be discussed calmly and not quickly in a bar. But he immediately thinks of Daphne. And that's why I "spewing the bullshit" bro.

They discussed it calmy before lol This is why William is the one that says Daphne first in the club. Because they discussed it before at home, and Miru gave the reason she doesn't want him to fuck her (because Daphne has feelings for William and it can get complicated). They mentioned a few times that they should only find people that know how to make the difference between sex and love...again you skip text or don't understand stuff.
And if your only argument is "oh noes Miru was the first to chose someone not to fuck" ....that's a pretty weak argument. Wanna keep spewing bullshit and embarrass yourself a bit more, bro ?

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[Tremonia]

See you all in 2025 for chapter 3.5 beta release and then in 2026 for chapter 4 beta release..

This isn't an airport here. You didn't have to announce your departure.

 

[Acsuka]

They discussed it calmy before lol This is why William is the one that says Daphne first in the club. Because they discussed it before at home, and Miru gave the reason she doesn't want him to fuck her (because Daphne has feelings for William and it can get complicated). They mentioned a few times that they should only find people that know how to make the difference between sex and love...again you skip text or don't understand stuff.
And if your only argument is "oh noes Miru was the first to chose someone not to fuck" ....that's a pretty weak argument. Wanna keep spewing bullshit and embarrass yourself a bit more, bro ?

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You are probably right in what you say, but I don't think I should be ashamed of my bullshit and my opinion... Are you having a nice day? Don't be grumpy, it hurts beauty...

 

[BobTheDuck]

You are probably right in what you say, but I don't think I should be ashamed of my bullshit and my opinion... Are you having a nice day? Don't be grumpy, it hurts beauty...

Just as an alternative opinion, Miru isn't interested in an open relationship - Willi has to want it, and she agrees despite being ridiculously ready to settle down and have babies with him and only him. You have to actively keep suggesting sharing and open relationships for her to accept, and she taunts him about Katie, probably as a slight revenge for making her think of sharing.

Miru is also clear that she loves Willi and doesn't want to share the feelings, that if they have something open, it can't be romantic. She doesn't want competition for his feelings or attention in any other part of their relationship.

As a set up for NTR though, it works great - Miru isn't keen, doesn't like the idea and will tease Willi about it, trying to make him awkward about his attraction to Katie. If Willi ends up going for Daphne, he's definitely cheating under their agreement, and Miru will extract revenge in some very NTR way I'm sure.

I'm not into the NTR, but I do like the idea that Willi can't mess around without consequences like 90% of AVNs.

 

[Joratox]

You are probably right in what you say, but I don't think I should be ashamed of my bullshit and my opinion... Are you having a nice day? Don't be grumpy, it hurts beauty...

You shouldn't be ashamed of having opinions, but you should be ashamed of the bullshit, especially if it's based on uniformed or incomplete facts. If this is your strategy on forming opinions, then I pity you. So many issues are derived from people like you, who are so very fast on shouting their opinions from the highest peaks (but don't bother to have informed and researched opinions). Peace out.

 

[ArsenHumby]

Just as an alternative opinion, Miru isn't interested in an open relationship - Willi has to want it, and she agrees despite being ridiculously ready to settle down and have babies with him and only him. You have to actively keep suggesting sharing and open relationships for her to accept, and she taunts him about Katie, probably as a slight revenge for making her think of sharing.

Miru is also clear that she loves Willi and doesn't want to share the feelings, that if they have something open, it can't be romantic. She doesn't want competition for his feelings or attention in any other part of their relationship.

As a set up for NTR though, it works great - Miru isn't keen, doesn't like the idea and will tease Willi about it, trying to make him awkward about his attraction to Katie. If Willi ends up going for Daphne, he's definitely cheating under their agreement, and Miru will extract revenge in some very NTR way I'm sure.

I'm not into the NTR, but I do like the idea that Willi can't mess around without consequences like 90% of AVNs.

And that's why Miru is a favorite in this remake, the old version was awful! Story wise the narrative is way better and the relantionship between willi and her is pretty awesome in the new version.

 

[Candy Suxx]

Could easily be some sexy action in WiaB with Gina or Zoey - Zoey's already interested in an open relationship, and Gina's mentioned some sharing - not topics you bring up randomly. Also, the camping trip is a great opportunity for Katie to accidentally drug everyone into a mass orgy they wake up to regret, like in the original. The question is what scenes get developed first. An early camping trip could set up some great tensions when everyone realises who did what with who - and then everyone's guilt trips over cheating etc. Really depends how Ocean wants to pace things, and the camping trip could just open pandora's box.

If that happens.......it would be fkin amazing although I am more interested in MC and Dana as well as MC and Mon's arc. These look like they will take time to reach the drilling stage.

 

[Miss Kobayashi's]

the game itself with the gameplay is cool, the plot is interesting and lamp-like, beautiful and high-quality characters, it seemed to me that the sexual content was very sensitive, cute, but I saw the animation of sex very cool and well done, sometimes I find Bella and Naomi in two personages of this game so the game is cool and done super like the second cool done!

 

[Neio69]

Just as an alternative opinion, Miru isn't interested in an open relationship - Willi has to want it, and she agrees despite being ridiculously ready to settle down and have babies with him and only him. You have to actively keep suggesting sharing and open relationships for her to accept, and she taunts him about Katie, probably as a slight revenge for making her think of sharing.

Miru is also clear that she loves Willi and doesn't want to share the feelings, that if they have something open, it can't be romantic. She doesn't want competition for his feelings or attention in any other part of their relationship.

As a set up for NTR though, it works great - Miru isn't keen, doesn't like the idea and will tease Willi about it, trying to make him awkward about his attraction to Katie. If Willi ends up going for Daphne, he's definitely cheating under their agreement, and Miru will extract revenge in some very NTR way I'm sure.

I'm not into the NTR, but I do like the idea that Willi can't mess around without consequences like 90% of AVNs.

The best she can do is to make porn

 

[slightchance]

Miru is also clear that she loves Willi and doesn't want to share the feelings, that if they have something open, it can't be romantic. She doesn't want competition for his feelings or attention in any other part of their relationship.

As a set up for NTR though, it works great - Miru isn't keen, doesn't like the idea and will tease Willi about it, trying to make him awkward about his attraction to Katie. If Willi ends up going for Daphne, he's definitely cheating under their agreement, and Miru will extract revenge in some very NTR way I'm sure.

That whole Miru wouldn't have cared for sex with others if Willi wouldn't have asked for it spiel is ridiculous. The latest scene in the bathroom, as well as the way he was bringing up the option of an open relationship in the beginning, were handled with such a disregard of flow it really felt like both scenes are only in the game to tick a box. How is this better than the nympho approach in the first version? Sorry, but I don't like forcing Miru into a situation she clearly isn't interested in. Really feels like a cop out to please the harem crowd.

 

[Krytax123]

You are probably right in what you say, but I don't think I should be ashamed of my bullshit and my opinion... Are you having a nice day? Don't be grumpy, it hurts beauty...

Just accept that your opinion was dumb and move on.

Im not into shareing, but i imagine a relationship like than can only work if both can blacklist other people they dont feel comfortable with (at least is sounds way healthier compared to the partner having no say in who the other one sleeps with ..).

And dont you think its reasonable to not fuck around with people who have feelings for you in such a situation? Miru is right, it would complicate everything and would lead to daphne longing for him even more. Neither William nor Miru are interrested in serious (romantic) competition for their relationship.

This isnt a harem game.

And i suspect she will change her opinion about daphne at some point anyway.

 

[sergerserj]

The game code seems to be a bit messed up. Some mods, such as URM, don't always work. Even worse with the walkthrough mod (imagine no viruses/malware in the Joker's links, btw).
And the whole MHY thing makes the story illogical and even causes the game to crash. Some NTR scenes crash the game too.
Great visuals, but the game code isn't even average. Hell, I want to play the game, not try to fix glitches and path bugs...

 

[Mortarion]

And the whole MHY thing makes the story illogical and even causes the game to crash. Some NTR scenes crash the game too.

Game is working as intended - played like Ocean has released it. Don't had the time to play the full release, but the beta, and there was the crash in the one and only somewhat NTR scene because of a typo in the patch.

Messing with the game files through a third party mod or a third party patch is a sure way to kill your game. Thats a YOU problem, not the one of the dev.

It's the same if you play Stellaris that is modded to hell and back into oblivion, and complain in the official supportforums that a quest chain don't trigger ...

Without patch was all working fine.

What is illogical with the variable Miru horny (Mhy) ?
The game states clear that Miru has a high libido and William can keep up with it but finds it exhausting.

Stick a finger in Mirus pussy, turn her on and "blueballing" her will lead to consequences - if NTR is turned on and William suggest the open relationship and/or working in porn.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Game is working as intended - played like Ocean has released it. Don't had the time to play the full release, but the beta, and there was the crash in the one and only somewhat NTR scene because of a typo in the patch.

Without patch was all working fine.

Oohhhhhhh this explains so much more why I keep reading about bugs and crashes yet I could never even locate those variables and had zero issue myself...

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[GetOutOfMyLab]

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[Mortarion]

Dafq you are talking about?

The only crash that is even mentioned here sice the beta release was connected to the I-Patch.

The other "crash" is because the players have tryed to use save files from the last release with a outdated RenPy version.

It's still not Oceans fault that the players can't read or refuse to understand what was read in the patchnotes/changelog.

 

[Cabin Fever]

This isn't an airport here. You didn't have to announce your departure.

You mean I've been doing airports wrong for decades? Even there I don't announce my departure.

You are probably right in what you say, but I don't think I should be ashamed of my bullshit and my opinion... Are you having a nice day? Don't be grumpy, it hurts beauty...

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. But NOBODY is immuned to the negative consequences of publicly stating an opinion that is factually wrong, which is what your opinion was.

The game code seems to be a bit messed up. Some mods, such as URM, don't always work. Even worse with the walkthrough mod (imagine no viruses/malware in the Joker's links, btw).
And the whole MHY thing makes the story illogical and even causes the game to crash. Some NTR scenes crash the game too.
Great visuals, but the game code isn't even average. Hell, I want to play the game, not try to fix glitches and path bugs...

Wait, so let me get this straight. You're saying that mods developed by third parties make the game behave in a way that the game developer did not intend it to, and the game breaks, And it's a problem with the game code instead of the mods?

 

[Penfold Mole]

You mean I've been doing airports wrong for decades? Even there I don't announce my departure.

It just means you're not a pilot

 

[mommysboiii]

That whole Miru wouldn't have cared for sex with others if Willi wouldn't have asked for it spiel is ridiculous. The latest scene in the bathroom, as well as the way he was bringing up the option of an open relationship in the beginning, were handled with such a disregard of flow it really felt like both scenes are only in the game to tick a box. How is this better than the nympho approach in the first version? Sorry, but I don't like forcing Miru into a situation she clearly isn't interested in. Really feels like a cop out to please the harem crowd.

I think it is better written miru is clearly in love with mc and they have a VERY DEEP BONDING like the pinky kiss scene
In my opinion this makes ntr way better because its slow burn and miru is not a nympho/sex addict/sex doll from the start (just a bit more sex drive) rather will slowly turn in one if the antagonist wins


this makes downfall and ntr way more sweet/hurtfull/depressing and will change the mcs personalitie or shape his character in the story more (melancholic or unhinged OLD willi revenge) hope we will also see a beaten side of willi if he lose in the competition with the antagonist because he is very condident/cocky and never loses would be interesting storywise even if the non ntr likers maybe prefer the unhinged OLD willi revenge arc maybe we will see both no idea what ocean will do.... depending who the antagonist is and how all the twist play out I imagin there will be multiple conflics woman and other antagonist (other woman trying to steal/seduce willi , leia trick miru .. , gang guy goes after dana after got beating tells his boss about miru ,dalphine trys to get mc jealouse .....)