What do you mean Leia/Miru cheating path.??If you choose the open relationship path and agree to a 3some with William Miru and another guy i don't see the cheating anywhere... Unless you are talking about the monogamous relationship with Miru and MC cheat on her with Leia ..which is something that me personally is against it
I think the majority of us very old-time WiAB players would be utterly amazed, if a 'cheating' path is not reintroduced (cheating..not sharing path).. There was one before, there will be one now. There will be a way at some point, to leave Miru (or have her leave us). I personally think this is a foregone conclusion and whether you are against it or not is utterly irelevent, Willi and Leia will have a path together seperate from Miru.
You don't have to like it, you don't have to play it...but it will happen.
Sorry, sometimes I think more fast than I write and thought has wrote something and did not. the cheating that was talking was more of an emotional kind, where William realize that he's too has deeper fellings for Leia and its torn by it.
For me the information that hopefully will be disclosure is more important too, but I am curious to see how some road will open up, like WTF is Helen doing ?
This we disagree, for me Leia was well aware of what Katie knew and what she wanted to do, and she thoughted that they could handle it. Katie, I admit that I dont quite get the apeal that she has and am not much interest in her, but I do like her character and agree, she want so much to be bestie with William but is afraid to ger hurt, again. But she for me she knew damn well what she was doing.
That may be, I sadly can't get the script to this scene, but I believe that the person who replied to me did so. It seems to me that "Her" is a distintic person than Helen and William seemed more concern with the possiblite that Katie whatever it was to "Her" than to their parents
About Leia, it really depends on who the 'her' is in that dialogue. If it's Leia, then she didn't know, or only knew part. Katie, might have known on paper, but she was around 12 when Willi left. 12 is not old enough to understand all the consequences. She blames Willi for leaving repeatly and for being a coward, so clearly she didn't think he'd leave, she didn't think it was serious enough to have that sort of effect.
But untill all these different things get revealed, the script is being pretty unclear. THere might have been a whole chain of events, not one singular thing.
I've put the images here, because I can't work out how to access the unpatched script (I've played with the patch)
There's a couple of lines of dialogue I skipped, but basically, Katie threatened to spill so beans about xyz to 'them' (patched it's Helen and Dylan) and then Willi says he's not talking about her spilling the beans, then Katie, refers to 'her' as distinct from them. THe implication is that whoever 'her' is, doesn't know about 'xyz' and is someone else other than 'them' (as the 'well' acts as a modifier/qualifier of what's been said just previously).
It's pretty vague.
The rest of the scene is worth checking out - it implies xyz is something different from Willi and Leia's relationship, as all three were involved.
What do you mean Leia/Miru cheating path.??If you choose the open relationship path and agree to a 3some with William Miru and another guy i don't see the cheating anywhere... Unless you are talking about the monogamous relationship with Miru and MC cheat on her with Leia ..which is something that me personally is against it
Well there's likely to be multiple cheating paths - Miru has very much said no to anything open with Daphne, and would probably do the same for Dana, because Willi would get feelings. Most likely Willi would have to cheat to do anything with them. My guess is Miru would also say no to Leia for the same reason. But interesting that she is not against something open with Zoey and Katie. That implies she won't be surprised by Leia and WIlliam's past relationship.
About Leia, it really depends on who the 'her' is in that dialogue. If it's Leia, then she didn't know, or only knew part. Katie, might have known on paper, but she was around 12 when Willi left. 12 is not old enough to understand all the consequences. She blames Willi for leaving repeatly and for being a coward, so clearly she didn't think he'd leave, she didn't think it was serious enough to have that sort of effect.
But untill all these different things get revealed, the script is being pretty unclear. THere might have been a whole chain of events, not one singular thing.
I've put the images here, because I can't work out how to access the unpatched script (I've played with the patch)
There's a couple of lines of dialogue I skipped, but basically, Katie threatened to spill so beans about xyz to 'them' (patched it's Helen and Dylan) and then Willi says he's not talking about her spilling the beans, then Katie, refers to 'her' as distinct from them. THe implication is that whoever 'her' is, doesn't know about 'xyz' and is someone else other than 'them' (as the 'well' acts as a modifier/qualifier of what's been said just previously).
It's pretty vague.
The rest of the scene is worth checking out - it implies xyz is something different from Willi and Leia's relationship, as all three were involved.
Well there's likely to be multiple cheating paths - Miru has very much said no to anything open with Daphne, and would probably do the same for Dana, because Willi would get feelings. Most likely Willi would have to cheat to do anything with them. My guess is Miru would also say no to Leia for the same reason. But interesting that she is not against something open with Zoey and Katie. That implies she won't be surprised by Leia and WIlliam's past relationship.
i dont think there is right or wrong on the paths is only a matter of tastes,if you asked me the old game miru wasnt even in my plans ,the model was awfull in comparision with the others females,but now im actually give to miru a chance to being momogam in one of my saves,but the problem i see here is miru itself not william at all,bcs //////if you believe in theorycrafting miru and wiliam had diferent paths in the other game,like diferent kids and stories,and this is a prequel of the other,so my queston is ...who will cheat first? i think miru will cheat many times over william not matther what wiliam do ,,,,her sexual thrive is something that is a big problem for him and he knows it ,so is more like an act of kindnees for him being cucked,and that my friend isnt nice in my books so i need to be really carefull in my choices form the next chapter and in future updates
i dont think there is right or wrong on the paths is only a matter of tastes,if you asked me the old game miru wasnt even in my plans ,the model was awfull in comparision with the others females,but now im actually give to miru a chance to being momogam in one of my saves,but the problem i see here is miru itself not william at all,bcs //////if you believe in theorycrafting miru and wiliam had diferent paths in the other game,like diferent kids and stories,and this is a prequel of the other,so my queston is ...who will cheat first? i think miru will cheat many times over william not matther what wiliam do ,,,,her sexual thrive is something that is a big problem for him and he knows it ,so is more like an act of kindnees for him being cucked,and that my friend isnt nice in my books so i need to be really carefull in my choices form the next chapter and in future updates
Of course, taste is individual, 100%. Regards Miru's sex drive, I've never opted for a playthrough with NTR turned off, and no open relationships. So it seems to me that you will have to choose specific things that will trigger her responding by cheating - such as, if you sleep with Daphne.
Miru has counted the days since she and William met, even more intense than Leia with her 'monthiversary', and Miru talks about Willi turning her into a baby factory. She doesn't want to share his love, and isn't into the idea of sharing, Willi has to persuade her. Other than knowing how to destroy pretty much anything that crosses her path (especially spiders) she is the morst loyal character in the game, unless you push to the sharing/open paths and neglect her.
Miru has counted the days since she and William met, even more intense than Leia with her 'monthiversary', and Miru talks about Willi turning her into a baby factory. She doesn't want to share his love, and isn't into the idea of sharing, Willi has to persuade her. Other than knowing how to destroy pretty much anything that crosses her path (especially spiders) she is the morst loyal character in the game, unless you push to the sharing/open paths and neglect her.
Yeah hard to disagree with this. I actually feel a slight twinge of regret I love Katie so much now we have new Miru...she just...too godamn awesome lol. Definitely a solo path for her is needed...and then a path where we grind her down...mentally fatigue her and promise her 48 kids if Daphne, Kat and Katie moves into our bedroom with us cos, you know, we'll need the help
Of course, taste is individual, 100%. Regards Miru's sex drive, I've never opted for a playthrough with NTR turned off, and no open relationships. So it seems to me that you will have to choose specific things that will trigger her responding by cheating - such as, if you sleep with Daphne.
Miru has counted the days since she and William met, even more intense than Leia with her 'monthiversary', and Miru talks about Willi turning her into a baby factory. She doesn't want to share his love, and isn't into the idea of sharing, Willi has to persuade her. Other than knowing how to destroy pretty much anything that crosses her path (especially spiders) she is the morst loyal character in the game, unless you push to the sharing/open paths and neglect her.
William made a strong arguament point on the subject... She knows that she has a high sex drive that William can satisfy but not without hurting himself (he said that ) that is why she either has the option with the open relationship or going to become a pornstar...The other solution is that she has to compromise her own sex drive with the MC's ...But that will probably cause other type of problems in their relationship as for sleeping with Daphne from what i saw in the current plot William and Daphne are friends and had never had anything sexual so i am not sure that William will go for that with her
About Leia, it really depends on who the 'her' is in that dialogue. If it's Leia, then she didn't know, or only knew part. Katie, might have known on paper, but she was around 12 when Willi left. 12 is not old enough to understand all the consequences. She blames Willi for leaving repeatly and for being a coward, so clearly she didn't think he'd leave, she didn't think it was serious enough to have that sort of effect.
But untill all these different things get revealed, the script is being pretty unclear. THere might have been a whole chain of events, not one singular thing.
I've put the images here, because I can't work out how to access the unpatched script (I've played with the patch)
There's a couple of lines of dialogue I skipped, but basically, Katie threatened to spill so beans about xyz to 'them' (patched it's Helen and Dylan) and then Willi says he's not talking about her spilling the beans, then Katie, refers to 'her' as distinct from them. THe implication is that whoever 'her' is, doesn't know about 'xyz' and is someone else other than 'them' (as the 'well' acts as a modifier/qualifier of what's been said just previously).
It's pretty vague.
The rest of the scene is worth checking out - it implies xyz is something different from Willi and Leia's relationship, as all three were involved.
Well there's likely to be multiple cheating paths - Miru has very much said no to anything open with Daphne, and would probably do the same for Dana, because Willi would get feelings. Most likely Willi would have to cheat to do anything with them. My guess is Miru would also say no to Leia for the same reason. But interesting that she is not against something open with Zoey and Katie. That implies she won't be surprised by Leia and WIlliam's past relationship.
William said 1 or 2 times in a dialogue that he can seperate sex from love , also if Miru agrees on the open relationship path ,that means that William will have sex with someone of the same mindset at least that is what it will happen in my opinion
as for sleeping with Daphne from what i saw in the current plot William and Daphne are friends and had never had anything sexual so i am not sure that William will go for that with her
i like all the theories so far but if you ask for my own and wich path i will take ,with new miru model this come to a nearly a tie fight but in the end or at least right now the only 2 women i see better than miru [and this is by the looks not by the characterdevelopment]is his mom and his aunt ,those 2 are on thei own league,[yeah i know i love big tits ass milfy women more than any other type] but is only a matter of taste nothing else,by now in the old one i prefered to go for the sharing path with miru in the prison , bcs again his model was too far worst than any other in the game....
That's exactly what I mean, not a fan of cheating either but I do think it will be a path in the game for it, as it also will feature NRT, what is not really up my alley but I have a save for it cause I am curious to see how Ocean will work it, Miru is such a wonderful partner that I am curious to see how it will play out
About Leia, it really depends on who the 'her' is in that dialogue. If it's Leia, then she didn't know, or only knew part. Katie, might have known on paper, but she was around 12 when Willi left. 12 is not old enough to understand all the consequences. She blames Willi for leaving repeatly and for being a coward, so clearly she didn't think he'd leave, she didn't think it was serious enough to have that sort of effect.
But untill all these different things get revealed, the script is being pretty unclear. THere might have been a whole chain of events, not one singular thing.
I've put the images here, because I can't work out how to access the unpatched script (I've played with the patch)
There's a couple of lines of dialogue I skipped, but basically, Katie threatened to spill so beans about xyz to 'them' (patched it's Helen and Dylan) and then Willi says he's not talking about her spilling the beans, then Katie, refers to 'her' as distinct from them. THe implication is that whoever 'her' is, doesn't know about 'xyz' and is someone else other than 'them' (as the 'well' acts as a modifier/qualifier of what's been said just previously).
It's pretty vague.
The rest of the scene is worth checking out - it implies xyz is something different from Willi and Leia's relationship, as all three were involved.
Well there's likely to be multiple cheating paths - Miru has very much said no to anything open with Daphne, and would probably do the same for Dana, because Willi would get feelings. Most likely Willi would have to cheat to do anything with them. My guess is Miru would also say no to Leia for the same reason. But interesting that she is not against something open with Zoey and Katie. That implies she won't be surprised by Leia and WIlliam's past relationship.
Yes, I agree depends in who Katie is talking about and we have no way knowing that. Have not realise that she was 12, you are probably right, still... I am suspicious about Katie.
I like the ideia that she not blackmailed him with his and Leia's rellationship but something else, but as you said is so vague that could be anything.
Thank you for posting the scene thay I talked about.
Yeah hard to disagree with this. I actually feel a slight twinge of regret I love Katie so much now we have new Miru...she just...too godamn awesome lol. Definitely a solo path for her is needed...and then a path where we grind her down...mentally fatigue her and promise her 48 kids if Daphne, Kat and Katie moves into our bedroom with us cos, you know, we'll need the help
I actually feels the opposite. The new Miru seems so obsessively clingy (counts the days since meeting William, baby factory talk, unnecessarily antagonistic towards Daphne) that it crossed the line into the unhealthy territory.
But it's all good. Everybody interprets the situation differently.
Yeah hard to disagree with this. I actually feel a slight twinge of regret I love Katie so much now we have new Miru...she just...too godamn awesome lol. Definitely a solo path for her is needed...and then a path where we grind her down...mentally fatigue her and promise her 48 kids if Daphne, Kat and Katie moves into our bedroom with us cos, you know, we'll need the help
I mean with the lack of father's in SG, someone needs to breed the next generation somehow I'm convinced I'll play every path just because of the effort to make all these characters amazing. I'm even on the fence about Mon (if it goes that way organically, not playing mindgames with her) Helen and Leia, who is my most disliked character. I'll probably save some of those paths for waiting on updates though. My main playthough is likely to be Miru or Katie for all the obvious reasons. I'm most interested to see Daphne's path develop though, as she and Miru both have a relationship with Willi that is based on his current self, not their mental construct of who they think he is from the past.
William made a strong arguament point on the subject... She knows that she has a high sex drive that William can satisfy but not without hurting himself (he said that ) that is why she either has the option with the open relationship or going to become a pornstar...The other solution is that she has to compromise her own sex drive with the MC's ...But that will probably cause other type of problems in their relationship as for sleeping with Daphne from what i saw in the current plot William and Daphne are friends and had never had anything sexual so i am not sure that William will go for that with her
If you don't chose the open relationship or NTR though, are those dialogues the same? Daphne is a LI and if you have the sharing variables chosen, you offer to pork her to solve her lack-of-sex problem. The dialogue about what Willi would do if Miru had a black baby (for example) happens if you have NTR turned on, so some dialogue only appears depending on choices.
William said 1 or 2 times in a dialogue that he can seperate sex from love , also if Miru agrees on the open relationship path ,that means that William will have sex with someone of the same mindset at least that is what it will happen in my opinion
That's how it all starts anyway. My guess is that the open relationship will escalate because feeling do develop and people are generally dishonest when they think they can have a long term fuck buddy without feelings. THere will be fallout, and that's why we all chose the open path right? All the complications it'll add are spicy for the story.
I actually feels the opposite. The new Miru seems so obsessively clingy (counts the days since meeting William, baby factory talk, unnecessarily antagonistic towards Daphne) that it crossed the line into the unhealthy territory.
But it's all good. Everybody interprets the situation differently.
I think Miru's baby talk is a mask, just like Willi's meathead persona (that he consciously projects to Leia in particular). When she talks seriously you can see it's just banter. Yes, she's smitten, but she's only told him Daphne's off limits, but is able to leave the two of them alone because she knows it's not healthy to destroy friendships. But I completely get that her mannerisms aren't universally liked.
I actually feels the opposite. The new Miru seems so obsessively clingy (counts the days since meeting William, baby factory talk, unnecessarily antagonistic towards Daphne) that it crossed the line into the unhealthy territory.
But it's all good. Everybody interprets the situation differently.
This is curious to me. I personally saw the old Miru as the clingy one (in comparison to new Miru). On top of that, she lacked self control, she was very immature and her antics only made MC get into more trouble. The new Miru seems more mature, playful and in control of herself. She knows how to pick her battles, and instead of being the one getting MC in trouble, she seems to be voice of reason in some scenes.
Ohh,oh, this hairstyle is so reminiscent of one person.Apparently, at least before the plot was reworked, William and Miru were definitely considered as the parents of Nika and Nami, but there the plot was more tragic. And now, at least William is alive.
This is curious to me. I personally saw the old Miru as the clingy one (in comparison to new Miru). On top of that, she lacked self control, she was very immature and her antics only made MC get into more trouble. The new Miru seems more mature, playful and in control of herself. She knows how to pick her battles, and instead of being the one getting MC in trouble, she seems to be voice of reason in some scenes.
Completely agree with this take. Wanting a lot of sex and babies, clingy does not make. She more than happy to go off and do her own thing when Willi is busy and only questions being left on her own when Willi goes to see Mon because he actually said he'd take her with him. Seen nothing in her new version to suggest she is clingy at all.
Completely agree with this take. Wanting a lot of sex and babies, clingy does not make. She more than happy to go off and do her own thing when Willi is busy and only questions being left on her own when Willi goes to see Mon because he actually said he'd take her with him. Seen nothing in her new version to suggest she is clingy at all.
I never played the old version, but I also agree. I think once the new chapter eventually comes out... in 2025 probably. I will definitely be putting her in my top characters list, I absolutely love Miru. The only reason she isn't in my list right now, is because I didn't actually give this game a proper play, because I was skeptical, despite the good reviews, because of the infrequent updates. (Part in due to not being the devs only game)
I wanted to see if this would be worth giving a proper play once chapter 4 is released, so I skimmed through it and only read some scenes in full, but most of them I just partly read through. From what I saw though, I really really like it, and once chapter 4 drops, I'm definitely restarting and doing a proper full playthrough. I have a feeling I will not only have Miru in my top characters list when this happens, but also the game itself will make its way onto my list of favorites.
I never played the old version, but I also agree. I think once the new chapter eventually comes out... in 2025 probably. I will definitely be putting her in my top characters list, I absolutely love Miru. The only reason she isn't in my list right now, is because I didn't actually give this game a proper play, because I was skeptical, despite the good reviews, because of the infrequent updates. (Part in due to not being the devs only game)
I wanted to see if this would be worth giving a proper play once chapter 4 is released, so I skimmed through it and only read some scenes in full, but most of them I just partly read through. From what I saw though, I really really like it, and once chapter 4 drops, I'm definitely restarting and doing a proper full playthrough. I have a feeling I will not only have Miru in my top characters list when this happens, but also the game itself will make its way onto my list of favorites.
I doubt the game will make my top 5, but possibly my top 10. As far as Miru goes, if her character continues to be amazing in chapter 4, then I have no doubt she will be in my top 10, if not top 5. Not sure if any other characters will make my top 25, but it's possible. I might have to expand my list to top 50 eventually, or at least add some honorable mentions. There's just too many LI's in these games that I love.
Unfortunately, every game has its drawbacks. For some it's crappy art but a good story, others have gorgeous renders but snooze-inducing talking. This is the third type, enjoyable story, solid visuals, and gets updated every few years
I would love to see the dev prove me wrong so we can play more, but I wouldn't gamble money on it.
