VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

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SonsOfLiberty

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John972 said:
From the same article:
I recall when all this went down, and it affected other payment processors too, not just PayPal. Numerous news stories from the time pointed out the banks and cc companies applying pressure through their terms and conditions.
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You should just read the updated article, it has more up-to-date information and also has bits about MasterCard also denying it.


Considering Itch.io pointed fingers at PayPal, SS doesn't use PayPal, many sites that deal with porn don't use PayPal and only CC, one can draw a pretty strong conclusion what is going on.

PayPal has gone about dealing with the problem in a ham-fisted and arrogant way.
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In general, Visa takes no position with respect to lawful goods and services bought and sold by the people and the companies who use our payment service.
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Side note,
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just banned all adult content, and
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Looks like it's going ot finally happen, Patreon doesn't want adult content on its platform and slowly purging it and changing the rules.

It's no wonder why so many dev's Patreon accounts have been removed of late even while being in the good with Patreon's guidelines with their content. It would not surprise me if you see a lot more Patreon accounts nuked in the coming days/weeks.
 
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John972 said:
Replaying Ch 3, I noticed something in a conversation between William and Dylan...

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Does anyone have an insights on what Dylan meant when he said, "Losing two..."?
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I have already raised this question. I see a couple of options here. Ocean could have made a mistake, instead of you, write two. Another option is that he talks about the loss of William and Joe in prison. Well, option 3 is guesses that they could have had children/Helen could be pregnant.
 
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Doomyk said:
I have already raised this question. I see a couple of options here. Ocean could have made a mistake, instead of you, write two. Another option is that he talks about the loss of William and Joe in prison. Well, option 3 is guesses that they could have had children/Helen could be pregnant.
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Thanks for the insight. I wasn't sure if a missed some context from other conversations.
 
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SonsOfLiberty said:
You should just read the updated article, it has more up-to-date information and also has bits about MasterCard also denying it.


Considering Itch.io pointed fingers at PayPal, SS doesn't use PayPal, many sites that deal with porn don't use PayPal and only CC, one can draw a pretty strong conclusion what is going on.






Side note,
You must be registered to see the links
just banned all adult content, and
You must be registered to see the links
Looks like it's going ot finally happen, Patreon doesn't want adult content on its platform and slowly purging it and changing the rules.

It's no wonder why so many dev's Patreon accounts have been removed of late even while being in the good with Patreon's guidelines with their content. It would not surprise me if you see a lot more Patreon accounts nuked in the coming days/weeks.
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I should point out that the cc companies' statements ten years ago don't address the issues brought up in the PP email - they
SonsOfLiberty said:
You should just read the updated article, it has more up-to-date information and also has bits about MasterCard also denying it.


Considering Itch.io pointed fingers at PayPal, SS doesn't use PayPal, many sites that deal with porn don't use PayPal and only CC, one can draw a pretty strong conclusion what is going on.






Side note,
You must be registered to see the links
just banned all adult content, and
You must be registered to see the links
Looks like it's going ot finally happen, Patreon doesn't want adult content on its platform and slowly purging it and changing the rules.

It's no wonder why so many dev's Patreon accounts have been removed of late even while being in the good with Patreon's guidelines with their content. It would not surprise me if you see a lot more Patreon accounts nuked in the coming days/weeks.
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OK, thanks for the additional info. I concede the point.

As I said, I recalled reading multiple news articles from over a decade ago that pointed the finger at pressure from cc companies, not just the Forbes article. My memory is likely faulty, but I also thought it had to do with advocacy groups applying pressure.
 
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John972 said:
Replaying Ch 3, I noticed something in a conversation between William and Dylan...

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Does anyone have an insights on what Dylan meant when he said, "Losing two..."?
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Kids? Could have been miscarriages or he is talking about Willy and Leia, they lost willy due to vanishing and in turn lost leia due to breaking down and never being the same person again.
 
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John972 said:
Replaying Ch 3, I noticed something in a conversation between William and Dylan...

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Does anyone have an insights on what Dylan meant when he said, "Losing two..."?
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I think the most likely thing was him saying losing two of their children at the same time ruined the relationship, they lost William (the MC) physically from him running away, but they also lost Leia mentally almost like she was a husk of a person, she was very distant hardly cared for anything and had to be held in a mental ward. She changed completely there after.

He simply doesn't want to push William away again by blaming the MC for ruining the relationship, so he cuts himself off. He's afraid of the MC running away again as most of the family is.

To further my line of thinking later on in the game when the MC and Dylan are talking in the auto shop, Dylan does open up about how awful it was for Leia, I don't have the game on me right now but he even says something along the lines of losing you both that day.
 
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I think the most likely thing was him saying losing two of their children at the same time ruined the relationship, they lost William (the MC) physically from him running away, but they also lost Leia mentally almost like she was a husk of a person, she was very distant hardly cared for anything and had to be held in a mental ward. She changed completely there after.

He simply doesn't want to push William away again by blaming the MC for ruining the relationship, so he cuts himself off. He's afraid of the MC running away again as most of the family is.

To further my line of thinking later on in the game when the MC and Dylan are talking in the auto shop, Dylan does open up about how awful it was for Leia, I don't have the game on me right now but he even says something along the lines of losing you both that day.
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This is the reason (y)

Physicaly lost a son, emotionally lost a daughter.
 
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SonsOfLiberty said:
Side note,
You must be registered to see the links
just banned all adult content, and
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Looks like it's going ot finally happen, Patreon doesn't want adult content on its platform and slowly purging it and changing the rules.
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The first paragraph states that Patreon doesn't allow nudity on the "public-facing spaces". Explicit material must stay behind a subscription wall. I don't see where it says that they are going to ban all adult content.
 
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When William goes home I think he's going to bring Daphne back with him. We need more players who are potential parents to the main characters of Summers gone.
 
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slightchance said:
The first paragraph states that Patreon doesn't allow nudity on the "public-facing spaces". Explicit material must stay behind a subscription wall. I don't see where it says that they are going to ban all adult content.
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That's not new, it's been that way.

The point is, Patreon keeps adding more, and more, and more rules, it's an opinion that they don't want it on their platform, only a matter of time before PayPal no longer wants to be part of it like other adult sites. I mean that's is the only reason these dev's stay on Patreon instead of going to SS.
 
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