VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[Adhdclassic]

Oh we better be bringing Daph back!

(I also think, just my own thoughts and musings that Daph will be the start of the cheating route also...but don't quote me on that).

Agree to be honest I hope so. She sexki.

 

[xibalbatwins]

Does anyone have an android version for ch3?

 

[xtraax]

Does anyone have an android version for ch3?

You could try this, it's not official but maybe it works for you
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-full-oceanlab.19856/post-6988946

 

[XeroZero000]

Can anyone help me please. This is my first non harem western game. So, I'm kinda confused how to approach this game.
so I have few questions I hope anyone wouldn't mind answering.
1. Is this game like jp visual novels where mc enters li routes and blocking other li?
2. If not how does it work then? Does mc cheat on his girlfriend?
3. And finally how does incest play in all this?

I'm just in chapter 2 now.

 

[Maviarab]

1. Is this game like jp visual novels where mc enters li routes and blocking other li?

Possibly...

2. If not how does it work then? Does mc cheat on his girlfriend?

That will be implemented most likely as it was in the original.

3. And finally how does incest play in all this?

They are Willi's family (And Katie ❤, Leia and Helen are all LI's) and if you use some sources, not related to my brothers, cousins, uncles, former roomate which makes things as it all should be, but I never said that.

 

[Obanama]

Patreon page got removed?

 

[Maviarab]

Patreon page got removed?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Can anyone help me please. This is my first non harem western game. So, I'm kinda confused how to approach this game.
so I have few questions I hope anyone wouldn't mind answering.
1. Is this game like jp visual novels where mc enters li routes and blocking other li?
2. If not how does it work then? Does mc cheat on his girlfriend?
3. And finally how does incest play in all this?

I'm just in chapter 2 now.

1. I don't know jp VN's (so I might misunderstand the question) but there is a strong chance with NTR switched on that you'll have to manipulate to win the LI's (Dana Helen or Monica) who already have boyfriends/partners. If NTR is off, my guess is that the LI's in a relationship will break things off and you skip the NTR/cheating aspects.

2. Currently we don't know, as there's no cheating content in the game yet. Most likely scenario is yes, you can cheat on Miru. If you go the NTR route switched on, we don't know yet how it will play out, but it looks like she will be able to cuck you if you cheat. I'm guessing it will get messy, and Ocean will have fewer LI's than in SG simply so the NTR aspect can be detailed and not cause the game to break with too many options between LI's

3. The only way that the Zane's are related is through a patch to the game, found on the first page of this thread, on a third party site uploaded by an unknown party, so make your own conclusions.

Patreon page got removed?

Yes, and Ocean hasn't directly responded, other than:

Regarding WiAB

I'm aware there wasn't a Dev Log and the reason isn't the Steam release or that I'm too busy but something else. I can't get into it right now for some very good reasons, but I will be able to tell you guys everything in around 2 weeks. You'll understand after I'll tell you. You don't need to worry about WiAB. It's still in development, and that won't change... No matter what happens... or has happened.
WiAB will go on Steam & GOG with the next update. (One update earlier than expected.)

So, don't worry about the patreon, they are just now the fun police. Chances are that you are not a patron if you are asking, so the loss of the page doesn't mean much if Ocean's dedicated to keeping going.

BTW (as a general comment for the thread) this is actually the definition of not milking - Ocean's keeping development active after losing an income stream.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Playing WIAB and Summers gone back to back alot of answers are given. But also creates alot of questions. If Will cheats is answered in summers gone, Which adds to who dos he start cheating with. Earlier it was put in the threads that Daphne will be his first step cheating.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Playing WIAB and Summers gone back to back alot of answers are given. But also creates alot of questions. If Will cheats is answered in summers gone, Which adds to who dos he start cheating with. Earlier it was put in the threads that Daphne will be his first step cheating.

It's most likely - Miru has already said she won't accept Daphne in an open relationship, and that open is fine if it's only physical - Willi's love is all Miru's. So breaking that is most obvious with Daphne, and if she comes to Wollust, there is only one actual reason, to be close to Willi.

 

[Adhdclassic]

It's most likely - Miru has already said she won't accept Daphne in an open relationship, and that open is fine if it's only physical - Willi's love is all Miru's. So breaking that is most obvious with Daphne, and if she comes to Wollust, there is only one actual reason, to be close to Willi.

True but in Summers gone they talk about Wills infidelities during the book club scene especially towards Sasha. I think before he returns he sleeps with Daphne as a sympathy act especially since he knows she didn't have sex in awhile and she is vulnerable.

 

[BobTheDuck]

True but in Summers gone they talk about Wills infidelities during the book club scene especially towards Sasha. I think before he returns he sleeps with Daphne as a sympathy act especially since he knows she didn't have sex in awhile and she is vulnerable.

With Sasha? It was Robert who was the married man after Sasha. It was generalised Willi being spoken about by Jen and Katie, nothing else is mentioned about William in SG other than Emilia asking Katie how he is.

am "The fact that even Robert would dare to jeopardize his marriage to have a chance with Sasha, signalizes that there might be something psychological going on."

jen "Bullshit! Your teammates spent more time getting backshots from William than actually training!"

THe William infidelity thing is based on the idea of William in old WiaB pre rework, when it was written with harem style logic. Current Wiab, we only know that William has a high sex drive, but gets worn out by Miru. William has only flirted with others, and not even much. The other reason for William's suspected infidelity is the theories about the SG cast's parents, none of which is fact. We know none of the fathers other than Nick Benz or Stefan, and we see a few mothers (Amber, Elena is mentione, Layla's mum is mentioned, Ayua is Zane). There is very little confirmed parentage other than legal names.

Most likely Willi will be a massive manwhore though. That'll be his excuse to find out info, just like Leia wanted him to do with Monica.

Other than that, yes I agree, Willi will do the thing with Daphne, it's too big a set up for it not to happen.

 

[Turret]

THe William infidelity thing is based on the idea of William in old WiaB pre rework, when it was written with harem style logic. Current Wiab, we only know that William has a high sex drive, but gets worn out by Miru. William has only flirted with others, and not even much. The other reason for William's suspected infidelity is the theories about the SG cast's parents, none of which is fact. We know none of the fathers other than Nick Benz or Stefan, and we see a few mothers (Amber, Elena is mentione, Layla's mum is mentioned, Ayua is Zane). There is very little confirmed parentage other than legal names.

Most likely Willi will be a massive manwhore though. That'll be his excuse to find out info, just like Leia wanted him to do with Monica.

Other than that, yes I agree, Willi will do the thing with Daphne, it's too big a set up for it not to happen.

Well, there will be a lot of personal canon things happening in WIAB outside Ocean´s official canon, depending on how we play WIAB, e.g. who Willi ends up with, stays with Miru, reconciliation with Leia and Monica, etc.
I think this is the reason there are so many possible kids of William/Miru/Leia/Kati/Daphne et al hopping around in SG, so that the WIAB players can see their personal canon in SG (in a fashion at least).

I theorise the following to be the most likely variant who is who´s kids/parents, going by some developments and things we already know: Willi and Miru are the parents of Ayua, that is pretty much a given. Maybe Ayua has some (half)brothers, since Miru stated in WiaB she would like 4 kids. She has officially female cousins, since it was mentioned in the beer bar that Nika would have to marry Ayua or one of her cousins to learn some special martial arts moves.
Of those cousins, I am convinced at least one is actually Ayua´s halfsister. I consider it 100% sure that when Willi and Leia reconcile, he puts one kid minimum into her and with the consent of Miru, since Willi and Leia can never be together officially. Miru is not only observant, Willi also promised her that one day he would tell her about his love from before. I estimate Miru already has some inkling that was Leia, too much hints that way even for an outsider.

If Willi and Monica reconcile (it seems possible in WiaB) I could see one of her kids being from him. I also agree with others that a Daphne-Willi tryst is nearly a given, but it does not have to be an affair. Willi could be only a spem donor for Daphne, that is one thing I think Miru would be open to. It would also fit into the thing why Nika and Nami ended up where they are. Miru might be ok with a sperm donor thing, but not with having Daphne (and kids) around all the time. (I find it likely that Daphne is Nami/Nika´s mom, esp. Nami looks very much like her daughter)

Kati, Dana and Zoey are also possibilities for Willi to have kids with, but further out ones. I consider them possibilites for personal canon stuff, not official canon ones, with the exception of maybe Zoey.

Miru is the mom of Ayua and maybe some sons, since she wanted 4 kids. Beside Willi, I think the only other possible fathers who might make it into official canon would be Dylan and one of the porn actors.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well, there will be a lot of personal canon things happening in WIAB outside Ocean´s official canon, depending on how we play WIAB, e.g. who Willi ends up with, stays with Miru, reconciliation with Leia and Monica, etc.
I think this is the reason there are so many possible kids of William/Miru/Leia/Kati/Daphne et al hopping around in SG, so that the WIAB players can see their personal canon in SG (in a fashion at least).

I theorise the following to be the most likely variant who is who´s kids/parents, going by some developments and things we already know: Willi and Miru are the parents of Ayua, that is pretty much a given. Maybe Ayua has some (half)brothers, since Miru stated in WiaB she would like 4 kids. She has officially female cousins, since it was mentioned in the beer bar that Nika would have to marry Ayua or one of her cousins to learn some special martial arts moves.
Of those cousins, I am convinced at least one is actually Ayua´s halfsister. I consider it 100% sure that when Willi and Leia reconcile, he puts one kid minimum into her and with the consent of Miru, since Willi and Leia can never be together officially. Miru is not only observant, Willi also promised her that one day he would tell her about his love from before. I estimate Miru already has some inkling that was Leia, too much hints that way even for an outsider.

If Willi and Monica reconcile (it seems possible in WiaB) I could see one of her kids being from him. I also agree with others that a Daphne-Willi tryst is nearly a given, but it does not have to be an affair. Willi could be only a spem donor for Daphne, that is one thing I think Miru would be open to. It would also fit into the thing why Nika and Nami ended up where they are. Miru might be ok with a sperm donor thing, but not with having Daphne (and kids) around all the time. (I find it likely that Daphne is Nami/Nika´s mom, esp. Nami looks very much like her daughter)

Kati, Dana and Zoey are also possibilities for Willi to have kids with, but further out ones. I consider them possibilites for personal canon stuff, not official canon ones, with the exception of maybe Zoey.

Miru is the mom of Ayua and maybe some sons, since she wanted 4 kids. Beside Willi, I think the only other possible fathers who might make it into official canon would be Dylan and one of the porn actors.

I agree with all the conjecture of what might happen, but the canon is the official story we know so far, not what we suspect. Each player will have their own canon playthrough, with changes ported over to SG, but in reality, that doesn't happen before S1 of SG comes out, so it'll exffectively only be possible with the complete collector's edition (TM) at the end of the ride.

Currently, Willi's only creampied Miru, so Miru is the most likely to have fathered Willi's one child at this point. Mon didn't get pregnant when Willi had his way with her way back then, so no Mon children in the canon playthrough possible yet.

All I'm pointing out is that most of our ideas are what we think is plausible to happen.

Plausible Willi sprogs/proking opportunities:

- Donna could be the mother of the Revera on the first team, and that person was from the Donna seducing Willi episode (present in the original WiaB and likely to reappear)
- The twins are likely to be Gina's as her bf actively wants to be cucked, in both old and new WiaB.
- Daphne is being set up to be imprgnated via a good porking. She doesn't necessarily need kids, but she agrees with Willi's assessment
- Dana also wants a good porking.
- Monica is being set up for round two, even if you play nice and respectful.
- Zoey is keep on shenanigans, but no inherent desire to be a mum.
- Kat didn't mind Willi looking at her when he orgasmed in Miru's mouth. Keep in mind it was her house and birthday Willi creampied Monica at when you see her dry humping him. Very relaxed and comfortable, despite the history.

Out of all of these, there's of course more, but only Miru so far has expressed the desire for kids. Willi has be shooting great, like he was with the darts to score each time.

As far as the SG cast, there is nothing we can assume, Ocean's specifically made it ambigious so we're always wondering who knows what. Ayua is the only near certainty, but we still have no idea in what fashion - we don't know if Willi lives with Miru, if Willi's left the city and Miru stayed, nothing's known yet, so there's no canon revealed.

 

[slightchance]

The point is, Patreon keeps adding more, and more, and more rules, it's an opinion that they don't want it on their platform, only a matter of time before PayPal no longer wants to be part of it like other adult sites.

If they really wanted adult games to leave the platform they would just ban all of them outright and not making up new rules. In any case, I guess they love the income too much to pull the plug faster. Many adult games are still up by the way, especially those with pages that are devoid of any sexual content.

 

[iainmore]

I guess the hermits here haven't heard the expression "GO WOKE GO BROKE" Patreon will slowly but surely go broke as the Wokes choke it to death. They are driving Disney and Marvel off the cliff into the abyss. Patreon will be easy for them to kill in comparison.

 

[Doomyk]

And I’m most looking forward to the appearance of uncle Joe in the game. He seems like a cool character. And I’m tormented by vague doubts why he always took such good care of William and Leia, so much so that he gave up on Kat and Lucas. Could it be that these devil twins are his real spawns?

 

[gyshia915]

And I’m most looking forward to the appearance of uncle Joe in the game. He seems like a cool character. And I’m tormented by vague doubts why he always took such good care of William and Leia, so much so that he gave up on Kat and Lucas. Could it be that these devil twins are his real spawns?

Mmmmmh... from where do you get the idea that Joe gave up on Kat and Lucas?

 

[iainmore]

I guess the hermits here haven't heard the expression "GO WOKE GO BROKE" Patreon will slowly but surely go broke as the Wokes choke it to death. They are driving Disney and Marvel off the cliff into the abyss. Patreon will be easy for them to kill in comparison.

Oh dear did I upset a snowflake Wokee with the harsh truth. Grow a pair of baws FFS

 

[Maviarab]

Oh dear did I upset a snowflake Wokee with the harsh truth. Grow a pair of baws FFS

Does soembody think he more relevent and important than he is?