Really hope he actually commits to the NTR in this game. And I hope it's believable, not some old grandpa shit. Just wanna see the girl get genuinely seduced.
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The order that Ocean had in 2020 was WiaB, PLF (intelligent female protagonist game, starts a little before WiaB, but is mostly between WiaB and SG), SG, BTW and IOL. IOL was the end of the series. Not a huge amount known, other than about PLF.
But Ocean's not going to do much other than daydream about those until he's closer to finishing these two in any regards. After all, he's mostly kept them under wraps, because there's enough work on the current two.
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1- before wiab
2- wiab 4-parallel game to wiab
3- sg 5- iol parallel to sg
Srry but i dont remember which acronym was used for the prequel to wiab and the parallel to wiab.
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Details are old, but this is what I've been getting my info from, as well as discussions with you. I'm sure things have changed a bit, as Ocean basically found his aesthetic after these posts (ie these are pre-rework statements on the whole), so everything needs to be seasoned with a lot of salt. I think some things like the description of BTW will have changed - I don't think older, wiser Ocean will even toy with that concept, unless it is a major part of the plot. If he said "kill me if I do x" then, he's probably, "kill me if I do x, then travel back to the past and kill my parents before I'm born if I do x" now.
I think PLF is the most advanced in a story sense, because of the timeline, while the other two will probably be flexible to develop from the outcomes of the published games - ie these snippets of info were before Ch6 WiaB, and the story has developed differently since then.
Here's an old list
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It took him 5 years to finish a season in SG, it's easier for our grandchildren to play these games than us!
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How many times are you going to say this? We get it already. We know your posts in both threads on this. In five years will you have new quips, or will you rework your barbs?
More importantly: we'll see an update to WiaB this year, and a steam release. Sure there will be unforeseen delays, but it's moving forward. Even if you're cynical and you enjoy being cynical, why not find other games while you wait to be proven (or disproven) right? Without a patreon for WiaB, Ocean has to get WiaB financially secure as quickly as possible, he has massive incentive to get updates out now. Success on steam for SG relies on doing a successful 18+ release for S2, and WiaB is the best canidate for Ocean to learn how to do that and all the potential pitfalls.
If you actually enjoy WiaB and want to see it have a full 18+ release (which will happen faster than SG as it has about half the total number of chapters planned (because of fewer LI's), why not just wait to see if OCean achieves it rather than taking every opportunity to undermine it?
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But I'm not undermining him lol, I just told the truth, anyway, I'm not going to extend this, I'll see you in 2025 since WIAB won't come out until the end of the year or not.
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The order was told to me by Ocean not long ago when I asked him about calling wiab a prequel to sg or not calling it that. In general what changed is that now it is just that and I remember that in discord Ocean had said that the female protagonist game was no longer in plans (not that he abandoned the idea of the game but the protagonist being a woman), but the latter is no longer checkable given the purge and my memory is not so reliable.
Finally, before the big purge on discord he replied that he had the idea of a short game that he didn't even think would be part of zaneverse (renamed now oceanverse).
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CLF was the side one mentioned in the link - focused on NTR and harder things - I assume all of that was discord things, but as I say, much has changed since people posted those screengrabs
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In the old version the NTR guys were Miru ex boyfriend and the fat cousin right ? Or was there anyone else ? 
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Not 100% sure but Miru could have been whored to the prison Kingpin and she could have some interaction with MC's father.In the old version the NTR guys were Miru ex boyfriend and the fat cousin right ? Or was there anyone else ?
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Is karma... William wants to steal Helen.
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Not to steal, but to take the baton. Dylan no longer has a boner for her. She deserves a little life.Is karma... William wants to steal Helen.
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Dylan refused Miru, but Wiliam was almost getting Hellen unfortunately they abandoned the old version
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...but Willi's heading in the same direction in a far more detailed way, and so is Miru. It will be interesting to see what cliffhanger Ocean leaves us on at the end of season 1. We've already heard that Gina's boyfriend wants to be cucked (like in the original) and Mon is someone with a lot of potential. We didn't get to see Leia's club before, but we've seen it in this version, so the time lines are a bit differet.
I'm excited to see what happens next.
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One thing I think I know, if that chubby Emilly is the same one from SG, she will unfortunately become a porn actress.