VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

First, let's remember that McDonald's didn't happen. He said he was going to do it if necessary, but it didn't happen. Look and you will find.
Then the percentage, it's not necessary, since we don't really know what's left to do in terms of renderings. we have an idea of how many ~stills, but we don't know what animations... the cinematic of chapter 1 had 16k frames. and add to that the Miru animations, that is, the sexual animations.

Sorry, you're right, but it was a several days affair where he was trying to work out his internet or something. The main point is keep a copy of your data close as your first backup, cloud is fine for a safety. Working via the cloud is slower than local in any regard.

About the renders, I still work on the idea that Ocean will start talking more about steam approvals and trailer cinematics before we're really close. Until then we just enjoy the all Katie renders we can get.

 

[sorco2003]

Sorry, you're right, but it was a several days affair where he was trying to work out his internet or something. The main point is keep a copy of your data close as your first backup, cloud is fine for a safety. Working via the cloud is slower than local in any regard.

About the renders, I still work on the idea that Ocean will start talking more about steam approvals and trailer cinematics before we're really close. Until then we just enjoy the all Katie renders we can get.

Yes, working on the cloud is a pain in the ass, that's totally true. It only serves as a backup if the SSD and HDD fail.
With the second thing, what I was saying is that it is not necessary to talk about percentages, we have an approximate idea and that is much more than what we had at the same time in all the previous chapters, where for some reason or another, everything seemed paralyzed for months.

 

[yossa999]

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A great example of how it would work, but anyway WiAB should only be released in June apparently.

Thanks man, really, this is a great example! It just perfectly shows the difference between Ocean and your wishes. He doesn't need fancy charts to release updates. I don't know if you noticed, but both versions of the game you're talking about - the pre-rework and the current one - have been abandoned.

Yeah, Ocean is inaccurate as hell in his estimates, and he doesn't even want to reveal information about the progress anymore until he's sure his plans are feasible. But he gets the job done and he delivers the content. He can be overly ambitious in his plans and ideas and scrap some things out later. But he moves the both projects forward and implements most of the features he writes about (and, btw, he reports be-weekly with rare exceptions).

At the same time, many projects that seemed well-organized, well-designed, and had great progress charts have long been abandoned. In the five years that Ocean has been making games, the zone is littered with the corpses of "promising" and "high potential" masterpieces. Thanks for showing me yet another example of what I've known for a long time.

 

[dan_roger69]

I mean yeah...but the Dormammu render at the end kinda ruins it for me a bit

That's the best of them all.

 

[TheDuke9999]

So we are getting the update this weekend.. I'm so excited ..

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well, the gog page is up, but nothing more/newer than what the steam page shows already.

 

[Cabin Fever]

So we are getting the update this weekend.. I'm so excited ..

Gotta love unfounded blind optimism, especially when one pulls release dates out of thin air with total disregard to explicitly told realities.

 

[multihacker]

I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother
Dylan - father
Katarina - cousin
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - twin sister
Katie - bibi
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother
Joe - husband to Scarlet "I hope he dropped the soap once in a while and learned his lesson!"
Zoey - Katie's gf?
Dana - Katarina's rival?
Emilio - ?
Jennifer - ?
Tony - ?
Jami - ?
Jack - ?
Dean - ?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also

 

[Maviarab]

I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother or stepmother?
Dylan - father or stepfather?
Katarina - sibling?
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - sister/step sister?
Katie - ?
Lucas - sibling Katarina brother?
Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also

They are ALL....my father's, cousin's, second-sister's, uncle's, former....

roommate

 

[sorco2003]

I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother or stepmother?
Dylan - father or stepfather?
Katarina - cousin?
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - sister/step sister?
Katie - ?
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother?
Joe - husband to Scarlet or brother?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also

We are all waiting for chapter 4 to find out how this issue turns out.
Until chapter 3 it would be:
Helen - mother
Dylan - father
Katarina - cousin
Scarlet - aunt (Katarina's mother)
Leia - twin sister
Katie - little sister
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother
Joe - husband to Scarlet

 

[RNasc4444]

I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother or stepmother?
Dylan - father or stepfather?
Katarina - cousin?
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - sister/step sister?
Katie - ?
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother?
Joe - husband to Scarlet or brother? "I hope he dropped the soap once in a while and learned his lesson!"
Zoey - ?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also

Oh buddy... Everyone here would love to help you clear it up. Problem is no one here knows for sure. Personally, I don't even think the dev knows at this point but even if he does, it's probably gonna change in the future anyways

Just think of them as landlords, tenants, roommates and childhood friends with no parental relation at all

 

[jadepaladin]

I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother or stepmother?
Dylan - father or stepfather?
Katarina - cousin?
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - sister/step sister?
Katie - ?
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother?
Joe - husband to Scarlet or brother? "I hope he dropped the soap once in a while and learned his lesson!"
Zoey - ?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also

I can handle one of them for you.

Katie- Goddess.

 

[multihacker]

We are all waiting for chapter 4 to find out how this issue turns out.
Until chapter 3 it would be:
Helen - mother
Dylan - father
Katarina - cousin
Scarlet - aunt (Katarina's mother)
Leia - twin sister
Katie - little sister
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother
Joe - husband to Scarlet

thx bro

 

[multihacker]

I can handle one of them for you.

Katie- Goddess.

Bibi Goddes!!

 

[Maviarab]

Oh buddy... Everyone here would love to help you clear it up. Problem is no one here knows for sure. Personally, I don't even think the dev knows at this point but even if he does, it's probably gonna change in the future anyways

Just think of them as landlords, tenants, roommates and childhood friends with no parental relation at all

Ahhh to think, completely unintentionally...my Spaceballs roommate gif/phrase is ever funnier now since 'that DevLog' hahahahaha.....

 

[John972]

You make a good point. But I imagine that he will want to play with his new toy, and them 200 becomes 400. Now I just prefer a faster update than a big one.

Jeezus! Don't say that! If the workstation is lightning fast and renders easily in 8K then another .... is on the horizon for SG/WIAB. /s

On a more serious note, good for Ocean. The "I need a new workstation" saga has dragged on for some considerable time, so it's great that he is about to finally fulfill that ambition/goal.

As for the render count, 4,200 renders would make the update the equivalent of reworked chapters 1 to 3 - which took just over two years to release (Nov '21 to Jan '24) and likely roughly two-and-a-half years to create. So, by a back of the pad calculation, what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...

 

[LHDLLB]

Jeezus! Don't say that! If the workstation is lightning fast and renders easily in 8K then another .... is on the horizon for SG/WIAB. /s

On a more serious note, good for Ocean. The "I need a new workstation" saga has dragged on for some considerable time, so it's great that he is about to finally fulfill that ambition/goal.

As for the render count, 4,200 renders would make the update the equivalent of reworked chapters 1 to 3 - which took just over two years to release (Nov '21 to Jan '24) and likely roughly two-and-a-half years to create. So, by a back of the pad calculation, what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...

Did not say it in a mean tone. I am glad for him as well. But is something that he is passionate about, and with shine new toys is easy to get lost, I know it is for me, just would prefer that he play with it in Ch5.


His numbers are completly insane, if he has done this much in a year - and I belive he did- are really crazy numbers, something closer to 12K renders I don't know that DPC is doing this much.

I just hope he does not burn out and can keep the pace, if he can deliver one update every 5 to 6 months he will get momentum.

 

[John972]

Did not say it in a mean tone. I am glad for him as well. But is something that he is passionate about, and with shine new toys is easy to get lost, I know it is for me, just would prefer that he play with it in Ch5.


His numbers are completly insane, if he has done this much in a year - and I belive he did- are really crazy numbers, something closer to 12K renders I don't know that DPC is doing this much.

I just hope he does not burn out and can keep the pace, if he can deliver one update every 5 to 6 months he will get momentum.

Yeah, I agree.

Ocean appears hyper-focused and passionate. I know what that's like when working on a project, it becomes all-consuming, but bearable provided everything is moving forward. Plus, it's always amazing to look back and think, did I really get all that work done at that pace? From my own experience, the constant danger over the long-term is that one can suddenly find a new project or task to become hyper-focused on...

I trust Ocean has the sense to run his existing system and the new workstation in parallel in the meantime, at least until he finishes the existing updates and any unexpected bugs/issues are ironed out with his new workstation.

 

[fluxxd1]

Jeezus! Don't say that! If the workstation is lightning fast and renders easily in 8K then another .... is on the horizon for SG/WIAB. /s

On a more serious note, good for Ocean. The "I need a new workstation" saga has dragged on for some considerable time, so it's great that he is about to finally fulfill that ambition/goal.

As for the render count, 4,200 renders would make the update the equivalent of reworked chapters 1 to 3 - which took just over two years to release (Nov '21 to Jan '24) and likely roughly two-and-a-half years to create. So, by a back of the pad calculation, what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...

Neither game is gonna finish

 

[Maviarab]

Neither game is gonna finish

So why are you wasting your time here then?