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Allenebs

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I started writing a sarcastic wall of text, attaching images of Miru on LSD as illustrations, but luckily I remembered in time that I am not allowed to write overly aggressive posts, and I seemed to have gotten a little worked up.

You are right about everything, bro, but unfortunately I see a completely different picture in reality regarding deadlines and development speeds. And even from the most famous developers of AVN.

So I don't know what to say, probably it's all about milking.
I'll say this, the problem isn't limited to AVN's. Hollywood, gaming and entertainment as a whole are completely incompetent in this regard, too. They want to believe they are better than everyone else, which is why they refuse to adopt a basic system that is widely used across hundreds of industries with only minor alterations and has been in widespread use for well over a century at this point.

At the very least, DPC should see the chick behind Zero End and seriously reconsider some of the positions he's taken about keeping BAD a solo project.

Even Ocean should be looking over his shoulder at a guy like the one behind Etlina's Principle. Personally, I can't imagine a world where I watch someone like PipRoad pop up and I'm not instantly in the dudes DM's working together to find ways to make both of our lives easier. Ocean might be the best visual artist in the space, yet PipRoad has very quickly thrust himself into the argument by deciding to come out doing something very similar visually. Just on Nightmare Mode.

Even if they lack the know how to integrate general production procedures, guys like this have the resources to outsource or hire people who work directly under them. Ocean has done so with other, less skilled artists in the past. PipRoad seems very happy and secure in his day job, but it's a discussion I'd very much want to have if I were Ocean.
Bro read again what i wrote, i dont know what youre replying to with that unrelated stuff

What exactly do you think i said im wrong about?
You disagreed that the premise is purely to scratch the incest itch, with several aforementioned examples of how ONLY family can have something approaching familiar bonds. I gave several examples of the opposite, as well as personal experience of how such bonds can just as easily be utterly destroyed in a single act within a family. Something... someone pointed out was an issue with how William responded to being blackmailed by Katie, which currently is not canon in this version of the story. At least yet.

You HAVE to have your incest. It's that simple, and I'd not have an issue with it if you were just being honest about it. It's a kink in porn, own it and move on. This is an anonymous forum, you have nothing to lose by saying "I find it hawt" and moving on. I mean, there's an entire massive movie franchise where familiar-like bonds among friends is the only thing that grounds the movies absolutely insane action sequences. Repeatedly, those bonds end up being stronger than those formed by blood. So you can't justify your argument in any fictional space, let alone real world one.

All the arguments about incest, though, are pointless as Ocean came to the conclusion that to save himself any continued frustration he's going to cut it. That's it. Argument over. Too much of the story has already been changed to reverse course now. And that could completely be what has demotivated him from working on this game, but it doesn't matter. No other developer jumps through the hoops that Ocean did to bypass the incest stuff. Hell, a lot of these games let you make characters who have no business being your sibling, be your sibling.

If you really want it that bad, it isn't illegal everywhere. You go do you. Just stop pretending fictional characters have to be siblings because friends can't be that close. They can. They are. And in both fiction and irl.
 

Krytax123

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Dec 29, 2022
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I'll say this, the problem isn't limited to AVN's. Hollywood, gaming and entertainment as a whole are completely incompetent in this regard, too. They want to believe they are better than everyone else, which is why they refuse to adopt a basic system that is widely used across hundreds of industries with only minor alterations and has been in widespread use for well over a century at this point.

At the very least, DPC should see the chick behind Zero End and seriously reconsider some of the positions he's taken about keeping BAD a solo project.

Even Ocean should be looking over his shoulder at a guy like the one behind Etlina's Principle. Personally, I can't imagine a world where I watch someone like PipRoad pop up and I'm not instantly in the dudes DM's working together to find ways to make both of our lives easier. Ocean might be the best visual artist in the space, yet PipRoad has very quickly thrust himself into the argument by deciding to come out doing something very similar visually. Just on Nightmare Mode.

Even if they lack the know how to integrate general production procedures, guys like this have the resources to outsource or hire people who work directly under them. Ocean has done so with other, less skilled artists in the past. PipRoad seems very happy and secure in his day job, but it's a discussion I'd very much want to have if I were Ocean.

You disagreed that the premise is purely to scratch the incest itch, with several aforementioned examples of how ONLY family can have something approaching familiar bonds. I gave several examples of the opposite, as well as personal experience of how such bonds can just as easily be utterly destroyed in a single act within a family. Something... someone pointed out was an issue with how William responded to being blackmailed by Katie, which currently is not canon in this version of the story. At least yet.

You HAVE to have your incest. It's that simple, and I'd not have an issue with it if you were just being honest about it. It's a kink in porn, own it and move on. This is an anonymous forum, you have nothing to lose by saying "I find it hawt" and moving on. I mean, there's an entire massive movie franchise where familiar-like bonds among friends is the only thing that grounds the movies absolutely insane action sequences. Repeatedly, those bonds end up being stronger than those formed by blood. So you can't justify your argument in any fictional space, let alone real world one.

All the arguments about incest, though, are pointless as Ocean came to the conclusion that to save himself any continued frustration he's going to cut it. That's it. Argument over. Too much of the story has already been changed to reverse course now. And that could completely be what has demotivated him from working on this game, but it doesn't matter. No other developer jumps through the hoops that Ocean did to bypass the incest stuff. Hell, a lot of these games let you make characters who have no business being your sibling, be your sibling.

If you really want it that bad, it isn't illegal everywhere. You go do you. Just stop pretending fictional characters have to be siblings because friends can't be that close. They can. They are. And in both fiction and irl.
No bro i never said any of that, you obviously didnt understood or read my comment. Your arguing against something you made up yourself. I even wrote that ocean could have written a story where Willy goes back to his friends instead of his family.
 
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sorco2003

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Sep 3, 2020
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Workstation is a given, even if he still did got it he will mention something. Taxes saga are in hiatus till 2026 and I have a good feeling for WiaB
Just dream with me... Monday, he wrote to the seller, the seller answered "your taxes are wrong, the credit was rejected", the arc take peak moment!!!! all the drama!!!!
And the delay because a missing scene or past Ocean fucking with future Ocean is a tradition in WIAB! (3 of 3 times in a row!)
 

LHDLLB

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Oct 3, 2019
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Just dream with me... Monday, he wrote to the seller, the seller answered "your taxes are wrong, the credit was rejected", the arc take peak moment!!!! all the drama!!!!
And the delay because a missing scene or past Ocean fucking with future Ocean is a tradition in WIAB! (3 of 3 times in a row!)
Lets have some faith. I am weirdly optimistic
 

The Krogan Dude

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IIRC Miru can fuck Dylan on the 3rd day...after the argument. Stay with Lucas or Katie. If she stays with Katie, believe that's when she fucks Dylan. Been a while though, memory is a little fuzzy.
I checked this out last night. She can fuck Lucas but Dylan doesn't fuck her. He rejects her advances and explains her that a scorned woman shouldn't lowered herself to the level of her cheating asshole boyfriend.

Dylan > William.

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LHDLLB

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Oct 3, 2019
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I checked this out last night. She can fuck Lucas but Dylan doesn't fuck her. He rejects her advances and explains her that a scorned woman shouldn't lowered herself to the level of her cheating asshole boyfriend.

Dylan > William.

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Mad respect for Dylan. But again old Miru is a lot easier to say no to. Makes me think how or even if a NTR route for Dylan was thought. I am sure that there is plenty who would like it.
 

John972

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Apr 24, 2018
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This week log! let's start with the bingo.
What should not be missing?

*Workstation
*taxes
*the delay in WIAB renders for X reason.

Anything else?
My Bingo Card says there will be a MAJOR delay to both AVNs due to a totally unforeseen circumstance - Summer showed up on Ocean's doorstep a decade too early and that's really put a spanner in the works.
 

LHDLLB

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Oct 3, 2019
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My Bingo Card says there will be a MAJOR delay to both AVNs due to a totally unforeseen circumstance - Summer showed up on Ocean's doorstep a decade too early and that's really put a spanner in the works.
We all forgot the mostly likely bingo card, there will no DevLog because Ocean is hyper focusing and forget it.
 

VicLex22

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Oct 31, 2022
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Hello,

Workstation stuff
The contract is finalized, and they told me that I should get it next week. So, I guess it’s safe to say that the Workstation will be with me in the next 10 days.

However, I will have to move a lot of data and assets over before I can use it. It took around 4 days with my last PC. (~3TB)

The phone code is progressing well. After it's added to SG, WiAB will receive a similar phone with its own design.

I saw the first test yesterday, and it worked great. The coder will now finish the ability to send and receive images and videos.

So, if Miru wants to send you a video of her blueberry cake... or her ass… She’ll be able to do that.

I ordered multiple logos through Fiverr, and while it wasn’t a pleasant experience, I have now received them.

Next time I’m in need of a logo, I’ll search for an artist on Twitter or Twitch.

I mentioned one of the logos in the last update and here is one of them:

Logo.jpg

All the logos are meant for in-game companies, teams, groups, or whatever you can think of.

This up there is just one of Katie's logos... It will evolve over the course of the game(s).

The bibi hast to start somewhere.

Some bad news:
I had the worst workout ever this morning and I'm still not over it. I moved maybe 60 percent of my normal workload. I left the gym with my head held down.

I’m traumatized.

More good news:
I'm having an incredible run at the moment, however... Remember when I said we'll end up with around 3500 renders? Yeaaah... About that...

I think it's closer to 4000 to 4200 renders.

One issue, my render queue is full... It features ~350 SG renders and ~490 WIAB renders right now... If I'm lucky it renders 35 of them a night.

The attack of the Workstation will fix this.

I added some 8TB enterprise SSDs that fit my entire 3D library and software on them... So let's hope that the SSD speeds up the loading between scenes even further.

I would also love to start the animations soon because I have quite a few to do.

Soon… Very soon.

As soon as the workstation is here, I’ll update every dev log on how many renders I have been able to create and render in between.

With the WiAB release approaching, the WiAB GOG Page will be available later today (at 15:00 German time, I think).

Previews
K-A-T-I-E.png
Bibi-Miru.png
Helens-Melons.png

I'll see you in two weeks.

Hopefully, with a new and very powerful PC and some data regarding the daily output.

Ocean
 
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