VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[sorco2003]

Guys, at least put some pictures of Katie, so you avoid the possible purge!

 

[yossa999]

I think you all should head over to the Eternum thread and take your HS lolis with you.
This is the WiAB on topic thread.

 

[sorco2003]

I think you all should head over to the Eternum thread and take your HS lolis with you.
This is the WiAB on topic thread.

Annnnnd You forgot Katie's picture, here you go to complete the post:




ps... no kink shaming!
ps2... if HS is loli, then Maddison too!

 

[sorco2003]

since we have refocused the debate, and bearing in mind that theorizing about "the family" is risky, let's bring the other LIs into the light.
Starting with Miru:
Solo trip, I imagine at least a couple of days... surrounded by Wollust Fakers, what can go wrong?

 

[yossa999]

since we have refocused the debate, and bearing in mind that theorizing about "the family" is risky, let's bring the other LIs into the light.

There is no debate because there are no family relationships in the game.
Just fantasies and theories of people that have nothing to do with the canonical scenario of the game.

Starting with Miru:
Solo trip, I imagine at least a couple of days... surrounded by Wollust Fakers, what can go wrong?

It's an NTR game, wrong would be not to go on the solo trip. Although the current version of Miru does not make you want to send her somewhere, as long as it asap and far enough.

 

[BobTheDuck]

since we have refocused the debate, and bearing in mind that theorizing about "the family" is risky, let's bring the other LIs into the light.
Starting with Miru:
Solo trip, I imagine at least a couple of days... surrounded by Wollust Fakers, what can go wrong?

Shouldn't we be saying "what will go right?" The question is, why is she going? We've seen a shot of her naked in the old apartment, but is she just going to pack, or does she have her own goodbyes? It looks like there's enough home locations that Miru and Willi move into the new apartment, but without knowing how much time elapses in the update, it's really hard to guess whats going on. Does Daphne make a solo trip to bring Gefritzel because Miru wants a snake skin handbag?

I think we can safely say there's going to be some serious teasing of Willi if nothing else, Kat and Dana at least.

I'm thinking the scenes with Zoey we saw might be William applying for jobs as a trainer, or at the college (seems that's probably a thing based on SG's bookclub comments). The biggest problen is that for an update of 3500 renders (or whatever it is), we've seen what 30? And they're all so different. I can sense a timeline for the ones with Katie, Kat and Helen, but how the ones with Miru, Dana, Zoey and the gym fit in with that I'm left guessing.

Which is as it should be

 

[yossa999]

Shouldn't we be saying "what will go right?" The question is, why is she going?

If I remember correctly, it's her nerdy gamer friends gathering.

 

[sorco2003]

Shouldn't we be saying "what will go right?" The question is, why is she going? We've seen a shot of her naked in the old apartment, but is she just going to pack, or does she have her own goodbyes? It looks like there's enough home locations that Miru and Willi move into the new apartment, but without knowing how much time elapses in the update, it's really hard to guess whats going on. Does Daphne make a solo trip to bring Gefritzel because Miru wants a snake skin handbag?

I think we can safely say there's going to be some serious teasing of Willi if nothing else, Kat and Dana at least.

I'm thinking the scenes with Zoey we saw might be William applying for jobs as a trainer, or at the college (seems that's probably a thing based on SG's bookclub comments). The biggest problen is that for an update of 3500 renders (or whatever it is), we've seen what 30? And they're all so different. I can sense a timeline for the ones with Katie, Kat and Helen, but how the ones with Miru, Dana, Zoey and the gym fit in with that I'm left guessing.

Which is as it should be

Beyond the images, or the quantity of images, there are things that we already know and from there we can theorize. We know that Miru/William are moving, and we know that from chapter 3 not from the previews, we know that the talk with Leia can be long and painful, we know that Miru has a trip scheduled with her online game partners, all this without going into the previews.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Beyond the images, or the quantity of images, there are things that we already know and from there we can theorize. We know that Miru/William are moving, and we know that from chapter 3 not from the previews, we know that the talk with Leia can be long and painful, we know that Miru has a trip scheduled with her online game partners, all this without going into the previews.

Of course. But the previews show us whether something is simple or involved. The fact that Ocean shows us multiple renders of that once scene with Katie, Kat, Helen and Willi suggests it's a really big scene that Ocean's focused on for example, while the scene with Zoey and Willi dressed in black is probably quite short.

My guess is the update will end with MIru in the old apartment and the scene with Willi with Kat.

I'm wondering what the situation with the gym will be - Willi and MIru are talking about being detectives, but the way the first gym scene we've seen is set up, the gym could be WiaB's equivalent of the bookclub, personal trainer Willi And, to some extent it makes sense, because Willi and Miru will presumably start their own (...or Leia buys all the business in town and hands them out? Nah) that will become the place Ayua works at.

 

[LHDLLB]

since we have refocused the debate, and bearing in mind that theorizing about "the family" is risky, let's bring the other LIs into the light.
Starting with Miru:
Solo trip, I imagine at least a couple of days... surrounded by Wollust Fakers, what can go wrong?

Ocean not using Miru trip for the cheating/NTR would be a shoot in the foot. There is two types of OR, one everything must be agreed upon and another where only penetration has to be okayed first.

For a horny Miru is the perfect opportunity to blow some steam, with a person she might never see again. For william is a opportunity for player to explore others LIs, with out guilt. I don’t think nothing crazy will hapen but will be the first steps in this direction.

If I remember correctly, it's her nerdy gamer friends gathering.

That but she also says something like money to collect and the like. I think we might see some of the darker side of Mirus life, not only the sex drive cute girlfriend.

Shouldn't we be saying "what will go right?" The question is, why is she going? We've seen a shot of her naked in the old apartment, but is she just going to pack, or does she have her own goodbyes? It looks like there's enough home locations that Miru and Willi move into the new apartment, but without knowing how much time elapses in the update, it's really hard to guess whats going on. Does Daphne make a solo trip to bring Gefritzel because Miru wants a snake skin handbag?

I think we can safely say there's going to be some serious teasing of Willi if nothing else, Kat and Dana at least.

I'm thinking the scenes with Zoey we saw might be William applying for jobs as a trainer, or at the college (seems that's probably a thing based on SG's bookclub comments). The biggest problen is that for an update of 3500 renders (or whatever it is), we've seen what 30? And they're all so different. I can sense a timeline for the ones with Katie, Kat and Helen, but how the ones with Miru, Dana, Zoey and the gym fit in with that I'm left guessing.

Which is as it should be

The update starting with Leia is a good bet, then we have Dana and the apartment, training with Katie or meet up with Zoey, Miru leaving Wollust. Helen and Katie previews seems like end of the day and feels kinda end of update. Is not much and mostly just speculation.

Zoey goes to the same college as Kat ? Maybe we will move on her plot, WiaB also needs to pick up some speed.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Ocean not using Miru trip for the cheating/NTR would be a shoot in the foot. There is two types of OR, one everything must be agreed upon and another where only penetration has to be okayed first.

For a horny Miru is the perfect opportunity to blow some steam, with a person she might never see again. For william is a opportunity for player to explore others LIs, with out guilt. I don’t think nothing crazy will hapen but will be the first steps in this direction.



That but she also says something like money to collect and the like. I think we might see some of the darker side of Mirus life, not only the sex drive cute girlfriend.



The update starting with Leia is a good bet, then we have Dana and the apartment, training with Katie or meet up with Zoey, Miru leaving Wollust. Helen and Katie previews seems like end of the day and feels kinda end of update. Is not much and mostly just speculation.

Zoey goes to the same college as Kat ? Maybe we will move on her plot, WiaB also needs to pick up some speed.

Well, Katie goes to the same college as Kat, it's possible that Zoey does, but Zoey might be helping Willi find his way around because Katie's being difficult or something. THere's really nothing to go on. I'd hope for multiple days in the update - there's no real branching yet, so if Ocean was able to do a day in ~1800 renders, ~3500 should be two days. But it depends on if there's lots of optional paths being rendered.

 

[johnwickmay17]

So it seems my friend, and in general, the new Dana is far below the old Dana.
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These renders were never used in both old and new game (yet), right?

 

[sorco2003]

Well, Katie goes to the same college as Kat, it's possible that Zoey does, but Zoey might be helping Willi find his way around because Katie's being difficult or something. THere's really nothing to go on. I'd hope for multiple days in the update - there's no real branching yet, so if Ocean was able to do a day in ~1800 renders, ~3500 should be two days. But it depends on if there's lots of optional paths being rendered.

The first chapter was two days in 700 renders.
And beyond... I see you holding back... free yourselves. It's closing the prologue arc, let's ask ourselves questions...
Will he do something with Daisy? Will Emilie still exist? Will Elena be part of the introduction or will she be the mid-game surprise LI? Will the blonde who accused Will of attempted rape still exist?
Does Abigail's niece/weird thing exist?

 

[sorco2003]

These renders were never used in both old and new game (yet), right?

No, even the first one is a discarded image from the 0.6 times, and I doubt that the second one will be used (although it was presented in the rework)

 

[LHDLLB]

Well, Katie goes to the same college as Kat, it's possible that Zoey does, but Zoey might be helping Willi find his way around because Katie's being difficult or something. THere's really nothing to go on. I'd hope for multiple days in the update - there's no real branching yet, so if Ocean was able to do a day in ~1800 renders, ~3500 should be two days. But it depends on if there's lots of optional paths being rendered.

Yeah, at this point SG already had branching scenes, nothing major, but still. For the rest I agree, was just throwing ideas, Zoey could be meeting William for any reason. I think that multiple days would be a wonderful thing but I am unsure if it will happen.

 

[BobTheDuck]

The first chapter was two days in 700 renders.
And beyond... I see you holding back... free yourselves. It's closing the prologue arc, let's ask ourselves questions...
Will he do something with Daisy? Will Emilie still exist? Will Elena be part of the introduction or will she be the mid-game surprise LI? Will the blonde who accused Will of attempted rape still exist?
Does Abigail's niece/weird thing exist?

I'm up for all of it. I expect Donna will have to have something happen before we get to Elena. I'm expecting that arc will remain. The question is whether there will be the two paths, Donna or the blonde? And given Ocean's added an extra antagonist than existed, we should hopefully find out more about Asavera and Krayt this update. That has the potential to alter the characters and the story from what we've expected significantly - is control over the criminal turf a three or fourway power struggle? Krayt, Asavera, the Zanes and they mystery cult we've heard about?

Do you mean Gina? I don't think William's seen Daisy yet.

My gut feeling is we'll see the mystery blonde/Donna before Elena, because OCean's been building Kat's path - Donna works at the college right? So we'll potentially find out more about that mystery professor/chaplain and his connection to the cult.

 

[BobTheDuck]

sorco2003 I assume you mean this about Abigail's niece?



My guess is that it's a flashback to Abigail's sister and that Abigail in some way failed to save her sister. No idea if that's true. (Edit: scrap that, her parent's sent her to Abigail, so no weird trauma, just weird Ocean) I never got this part of the scene that i can recall, or it flashes by too quickly and I blinked.

What about these? I don't know the choices that lead to these, or were they redundant renders for something that didn't happen? Again, I might have blinked. I didn't recall Zoey there, I presume that's meant to be Zoey?

 

[sorco2003]

sorco2003 I assume you mean this about Abigail's niece?

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My guess is that it's a flashback to Abigail's sister and that Abigail in some way failed to save her sister. No idea if that's true. I never got this part of the scene that i can recall, or it flashes by too quickly and I blinked.

What about these? I don't know the choices that lead to these, or were they redundant renders for something that didn't happen? Again, I might have blinked. I didn't recall Zoey there, I presume that's meant to be Zoey?

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And because of all these things I'm looking forward to chapter 4.... as an introductory phase it still owes us a lot, if we add the probable changes and what we already know, that gives us as a result that the 4000 or more renders should be used to advance the common story and not only the relationship with the LIs.

 

[LHDLLB]

And because of all these things I'm looking forward to chapter 4.... as an introductory phase it still owes us a lot, if we add the probable changes and what we already know, that gives us as a result that the 4000 or more renders should be used to advance the common story and not only the relationship with the LIs.

Honestly I would prefer more story, but almost every LI hates William. Ocean has to give time to those relationship to developed, I believe he can do it in a small enough time but is time not advancing the story. I can't talk much of OG as I barely remember it but the more we progress with the rework the more different they will become, maybe not even for plot poins it can be looked at.

 

[RNasc4444]

Ocean not using Miru trip for the cheating/NTR would be a shoot in the foot. There is two types of OR, one everything must be agreed upon and another where only penetration has to be okayed first.

For a horny Miru is the perfect opportunity to blow some steam, with a person she might never see again. For william is a opportunity for player to explore others LIs, with out guilt. I don’t think nothing crazy will hapen but will be the first steps in this direction.

Absolutely no shot. I know this is an Ocean story but it would make no sense whatsoever. All we've gotten from Miru so far is utter reluctance to the idea of fucking around with anyone other than William. It's way too early for that. Even if you deny her sex she doesn't get to a point where that would happen. Maybe if the upcoming update makes great strides in that direction it could happen in the next one.