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Well, Katie goes to the same college as Kat, it's possible that Zoey does, but Zoey might be helping Willi find his way around because Katie's being difficult or something. THere's really nothing to go on. I'd hope for multiple days in the update - there's no real branching yet, so if Ocean was able to do a day in ~1800 renders, ~3500 should be two days. But it depends on if there's lots of optional paths being rendered.
The first chapter was two days in 700 renders.
And beyond... I see you holding back... free yourselves. It's closing the prologue arc, let's ask ourselves questions...
Will he do something with Daisy? Will Emilie still exist? Will Elena be part of the introduction or will she be the mid-game surprise LI? Will the blonde who accused Will of attempted rape still exist?
Does Abigail's niece/weird thing exist?
 

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Well, Katie goes to the same college as Kat, it's possible that Zoey does, but Zoey might be helping Willi find his way around because Katie's being difficult or something. THere's really nothing to go on. I'd hope for multiple days in the update - there's no real branching yet, so if Ocean was able to do a day in ~1800 renders, ~3500 should be two days. But it depends on if there's lots of optional paths being rendered.
Yeah, at this point SG already had branching scenes, nothing major, but still. For the rest I agree, was just throwing ideas, Zoey could be meeting William for any reason. I think that multiple days would be a wonderful thing but I am unsure if it will happen.
 

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The first chapter was two days in 700 renders.
And beyond... I see you holding back... free yourselves. It's closing the prologue arc, let's ask ourselves questions...
Will he do something with Daisy? Will Emilie still exist? Will Elena be part of the introduction or will she be the mid-game surprise LI? Will the blonde who accused Will of attempted rape still exist?
Does Abigail's niece/weird thing exist?
I'm up for all of it. I expect Donna will have to have something happen before we get to Elena. I'm expecting that arc will remain. The question is whether there will be the two paths, Donna or the blonde? And given Ocean's added an extra antagonist than existed, we should hopefully find out more about Asavera and Krayt this update. That has the potential to alter the characters and the story from what we've expected significantly - is control over the criminal turf a three or fourway power struggle? Krayt, Asavera, the Zanes and they mystery cult we've heard about?

Do you mean Gina? I don't think William's seen Daisy yet.

My gut feeling is we'll see the mystery blonde/Donna before Elena, because OCean's been building Kat's path - Donna works at the college right? So we'll potentially find out more about that mystery professor/chaplain and his connection to the cult.
 
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sorco2003 I assume you mean this about Abigail's niece?

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My guess is that it's a flashback to Abigail's sister and that Abigail in some way failed to save her sister. No idea if that's true. (Edit: scrap that, her parent's sent her to Abigail, so no weird trauma, just weird Ocean) I never got this part of the scene that i can recall, or it flashes by too quickly and I blinked.

What about these? I don't know the choices that lead to these, or were they redundant renders for something that didn't happen? Again, I might have blinked. I didn't recall Zoey there, I presume that's meant to be Zoey?

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sorco2003 I assume you mean this about Abigail's niece?

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My guess is that it's a flashback to Abigail's sister and that Abigail in some way failed to save her sister. No idea if that's true. I never got this part of the scene that i can recall, or it flashes by too quickly and I blinked.

What about these? I don't know the choices that lead to these, or were they redundant renders for something that didn't happen? Again, I might have blinked. I didn't recall Zoey there, I presume that's meant to be Zoey?

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And because of all these things I'm looking forward to chapter 4.... as an introductory phase it still owes us a lot, if we add the probable changes and what we already know, that gives us as a result that the 4000 or more renders should be used to advance the common story and not only the relationship with the LIs.
 

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And because of all these things I'm looking forward to chapter 4.... as an introductory phase it still owes us a lot, if we add the probable changes and what we already know, that gives us as a result that the 4000 or more renders should be used to advance the common story and not only the relationship with the LIs.
Honestly I would prefer more story, but almost every LI hates William. Ocean has to give time to those relationship to developed, I believe he can do it in a small enough time but is time not advancing the story. I can't talk much of OG as I barely remember it but the more we progress with the rework the more different they will become, maybe not even for plot poins it can be looked at.
 
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Ocean not using Miru trip for the cheating/NTR would be a shoot in the foot. There is two types of OR, one everything must be agreed upon and another where only penetration has to be okayed first.

For a horny Miru is the perfect opportunity to blow some steam, with a person she might never see again. For william is a opportunity for player to explore others LIs, with out guilt. I don’t think nothing crazy will hapen but will be the first steps in this direction.
Absolutely no shot. I know this is an Ocean story but it would make no sense whatsoever. All we've gotten from Miru so far is utter reluctance to the idea of fucking around with anyone other than William. It's way too early for that. Even if you deny her sex she doesn't get to a point where that would happen. Maybe if the upcoming update makes great strides in that direction it could happen in the next one.
 

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Honestly I would prefer more story, but almost every LI hates William. Ocean has to give time to those relationship to developed, I believe he can do it in a small enough time but is time not advancing the story. I can't talk much of OG as I barely remember it but the more we progress with the rework the more different they will become, maybe not even for plot poins it can be looked at.
Even if you don't want to see the main thread (even if it is branched and developed) it is still the same, so let's take what we already know without counting the OG...
Petrova exists, that's a fact... how she will appear in WIAB? that's an unknown.
Uncle Joe exists, how will he come back? will we see him in jail or already out? will a visit to the jail open the arc of the jail?
Daisy exists, will she be LI? what information about the gangs can a "mother of pain" bring?
Leia being Leia as she is, are all those who work with her are loyal? or will there be someone who points to William as her Achilles heel and will be targeted by the enemy?
Is a lot...
 

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Honestly I would prefer more story, but almost every LI hates William. Ocean has to give time to those relationship to developed, I believe he can do it in a small enough time but is time not advancing the story. I can't talk much of OG as I barely remember it but the more we progress with the rework the more different they will become, maybe not even for plot poins it can be looked at.
Well, I think the inclusion of a different angle (Asavera) necessitates a different main plot. That doesn't mean Ocean won't reuse a prison scene. I kinda think Ocean felt he jumped the gun a bit there, William gets thrown in jail without a trial, gets brutalised in custody, then gets released, then gets a proper trial? It was like getting whiplash from the plot playing leapfrog with itself, then with the flashbacks to young Willi.... I feel that this time, there will be a slower weaving together, with the stakes raising appropriately, rather than swerving all over the highway so to speak.
 
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Absolutely no shot. I know this is an Ocean story but it would make no sense whatsoever. All we've gotten from Miru so far is utter reluctance to the idea of fucking around with anyone other than William. It's way too early for that. Even if you deny her sex she doesn't get to a point where that would happen. Maybe if the upcoming update makes great strides in that direction it could happen in the next one.
I don't know. She has a high libido and is growing frustrated with not getting any, she up the stakes in Ch3 and the player can let her fool around. She might want to up it a bit more, not saying that Miru will cheat William, but is a too good of a oportunity to let is pass in my view.

We don't know how much time she will be gone, if William is okay with it, why would she suffer ? Does not seems that crazy to me.
 

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Even if you don't want to see the main thread (even if it is branched and developed) it is still the same, so let's take what we already know without counting the OG...
Petrova exists, that's a fact... how she will appear in WIAB? that's an unknown.
Uncle Joe exists, how will he come back? will we see him in jail or already out? will a visit to the jail open the arc of the jail?
Daisy exists, will she be LI? what information about the gangs can a "mother of pain" bring?
Leia being Leia as she is, are all those who work with her are loyal? or will there be someone who points to William as her Achilles heel and will be targeted by the enemy?
Is a lot...
Petrova was hyped up as a antagonist on the OG, I don't know if she will play the same role here.

My guess is that we will see him out of jail and that he will join Leia and William as a muscle man. Not sure if we will get the jail arch, if so I don't wanna a false rape allegation.

does not remember Daisy. Or Mother of Pain

Leia being betrayed is almost certain. The thing with Leia is that she is either 5 steps ahead or 10 behind. Either way I think that Leia will be betrayed by someone, Emilio ? Ryru ?

Well, I think the inclusion of a different angle (Asavera) necessitates a different main plot. That doesn't mean Ocean won't reuse a prison scene. I kinda think Ocean felt he jumped the gun a bit there, William gets thrown in jail without a trial, gets brutalised in custody, then gets released, then gets a proper trial? It was like getting whiplash from the plot playing leapfrog with itself, then with the flashbacks to young Willi.... I feel that this time, there will be a slower weaving together, with the stakes raising appropriately, rather than swerving all over the highway so to speak.
Sure, but at the same time is like you said, OG was so all over the place that is hard to guess things. If the prison thing happens I expect to be quite different and much more ahead in the story. By OG next update we should be fucking Donna and being accused of rape. Chances are we will be getting something like the Leia conversation we had in Ch6. I see the OG as not even a skeleton of the story, more like the firsts drafts, some things will be the same others much different.

Of the new things he add, I am curious of the uncles that are not on speaking terms anymore and the bartender with a scar who is a new LI.
 
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Petrova was hyped up as a antagonist on the OG, I don't know if she will play the same role here.

My guess is that we will see him out of jail and that he will join Leia and William as a muscle man. Not sure if we will get the jail arch, if so I don't wanna a false rape allegation.

does not remember Daisy. Or Mother of Pain

Leia being betrayed is almost certain. The thing with Leia is that she is either 5 steps ahead or 10 behind. Either way I think that Leia will be betrayed by someone, Emilio ? Ryru ?



Sure, but at the same time is like you said, OG was so all over the place that is hard to guess things. If the prison thing happens I expect to be quite different and much more ahead in the story. By OG next update we should be fucking Donna and being accused of rape. Chances are we will be getting something like the Leia conversation we had in Ch6. I see the OG as not even a skeleton of the story, more like the firsts drafts, some things will be the same others much different.

Of the new things he add, I am curious of the uncles that are not on speaking terms anymore and the bartender with a scar who is a new LI.
Daisy is Gina's mother. And "mother of pain" is a name for mothers who have gone through a traumatic experience with their children, such as mothers with children killed in traffic accidents, or in this case, mothers with children in criminal gangs.
 

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Daisy is Gina's mother. And "mother of pain" is a name for mothers who have gone through a traumatic experience with their children, such as mothers with children killed in traffic accidents, or in this case, mothers with children in criminal gangs.
OOOOh I vaguely remember it. Mother of Pain is such a cool title for something so real. We know that Gina hates de Kryat we can assume her mother does too, they can help us bring them down or even Gina's brother. Given Ocean last threats he can play a role in the Miru NTR route, either you pimp Miru out to him or in some other form. So many threads and so little to go by.

She was an advocate for donna but I'm not sure about antagonist part
She worked for the people accusing William, at least in the way she acted against the protagonist she could be called a antagonist, but maybe not a vilan.
 
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Petrova was hyped up as a antagonist on the OG, I don't know if she will play the same role here.

My guess is that we will see him out of jail and that he will join Leia and William as a muscle man. Not sure if we will get the jail arch, if so I don't wanna a false rape allegation.

does not remember Daisy. Or Mother of Pain

Leia being betrayed is almost certain. The thing with Leia is that she is either 5 steps ahead or 10 behind. Either way I think that Leia will be betrayed by someone, Emilio ? Ryru ?



Sure, but at the same time is like you said, OG was so all over the place that is hard to guess things. If the prison thing happens I expect to be quite different and much more ahead in the story. By OG next update we should be fucking Donna and being accused of rape. Chances are we will be getting something like the Leia conversation we had in Ch6. I see the OG as not even a skeleton of the story, more like the firsts drafts, some things will be the same others much different.

Of the new things he add, I am curious of the uncles that are not on speaking terms anymore and the bartender with a scar who is a new LI.
The bartender? That was just the shadow from her hair I think, the next render has nothing like that. I also think Riri is far more likely than the bartender, but we'll see.
 

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The bartender? That was just the shadow from her hair I think, the next render has nothing like that. I also think Riri is far more likely than the bartender, but we'll see.
Yeah, unless I am triping really high here Ocean said in one log for Ch3 that she is a LI. The scar I am less sure. Riri, that is her name. as a LI ?

EDIT: Yeah, no scar on the bartender, my bad.
 

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Yeah, unless I am triping really high here Ocean said in one log for Ch3 that she is a LI. The scar I am less sure. Riri, that is her name. as a LI ?
Riri's one of Leia's servers/companions/hosts/whatever they are. No scar on her either unless I'm blind. I do expect her to complicate things in all kinds of good ways (for us at least). I thought you meant the actual bartender, who looks like she has a scar in one lighting, but I suspect it's a shadow:

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Riri's one of Leia's servers/companions/hosts/whatever they are. No scar on her either unless I'm blind. I do expect her to complicate things in all kinds of good ways (for us at least). I thought you meant the actual bartender, who looks like she has a scar in one lighting, but I suspect it's a shadow:

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Yeah, was talking about her. Did not Ocean said she was a LI ? I am sure of it, in one of Ch3 logs
 
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