VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Crowangel

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So after finishing my playthrough, I absolutely can't understand that dumpster fire starting here about the removed taboo shit.
Nothing important was lost or will ever be missed. Especially not from newer players, players that don't carry that mess/bias of old luggage from the old game around.
From the reaction of you guys here, I was concerned about a total clusterfuck of a story. But I was proven wrong.

Even the old WIAB had a strong tendency to swing into the direction of a crime story, the framing for the rape or the final cinematic in the court.

One of the loudest crybabies here - forgot to quote that shit - has complained about Miru was enabling thug mode.
Miru was batshit crazy in the old game and had connection to some/her(?) kind of Yakuza family. At least one trait of her was portet over ...
It was mentioned that Miru and William had meet after/in prison, in Ch3 or earlier - IIRC.

The only thing I just ask myself is, do you guys even spend a fraction of a braincell and think about what is going on in the dialogs? Or are you just drooling over the one render after the another?





Just drop this adventure, it will just be wasted time.
Make your peace with the thought that this ship has sailed away and has sunk.
We are not talking about patching one or another scene back into the game. You have to think about the workload you get to catch up with this sort of stuff, and for what? From now on, including the present chapter, all future chapters have to be rewritten to force that taboo shit into it, until a point that your patch will alienate the patched game compare to original to the point of fubar.

Let's be honest with ourselves, we are not anymore in the early 2000s/2010s. The complete taboo stuff was the real shit, back in the AIF times, but that horse is dead, get it finally, stop beating it and move on.

If you really want to patch something back into the game. Build a patch to restore the cinematic back into the game from the start that has to be dropped because of the music license issues. That was something I have really missed. :)




On the first glance I recognised Noji, the reporter bitch Nicole, Sashas Mother - her used model is the same as used in the old WIAB, just without being pregnant, not 100% sure about this, to much time past ...

Well, time to get a replay of the book club scene in SG to find the other ones.



Nope, it will not work on the gallery because there is noting from chapter 4 present to be unlocked. Gallery version chapter 3 final.
marie or mary as she calls herself in wiab, the girl with hair up in a bun is her friend and the one sat with dark hair also hitting on mc is the one who gives sg mc her number not to mention a few others
 

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Maja's mother gave birth to Maja when she was in her 40s.
The time gap between WIAB and SG is around 20-25 years and Maja is in her early 20s.
So Maja's mother should be in her late 30s or early 40s.
It's mafia, don't ask, it's just mafia, all the non-dockable in this game is now mafia, not to be confused with magic, it's mafia.
 

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Is that the gal who gets pushed to William with the comment "take one for the team" and is asking him about a interview ?
If yes, than this is the reporter bitch Nicole from SG
yes its the reporter with the glasses who reports on the scandals and if route taken mc and girl in toilet stall
 

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someone earlier mentioned seeing nojika? is that miru or have i missed something.. i caught the others but that 1 threw me

anyone notice the badik winks too with the dana's work guy in elevator/mc and girl at gym/josyish type
 

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someone earlier mentioned seeing nojika? is that miru or have i missed something.. i caught the others but that 1 threw me
That was me.

It's in the workout scene with William and Katie. there is now and then a turn to Noji after the banter between the two, thefirst after Katies threatens William about a rumor of harassment.

And she's shown waiting outside the gym beside a pillar, shortly before Dana complains about the traffic on her way to the office.
 
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That was me.

It's in the workout scene with William and Katie. there is now and then a turn to Noji after the banter between the two, thefirst after Katies threatens William about a rumor of harassment
ooooooooh i thought it was a josy badik joke lol ty


i still think one of williams offspring will turn out to be 'ajax?' in sg.. the mother in the pizza place mentions him hiding his beautiful eyes behind the shades.. plus he shares a similar physic and look as william.. by the end of all this... if we get there.. it'll prob turn out william impregnated half the town, college, leia's club.. and porn studio recruits lol.... speakin of... opinions on Zoey surviving? i see her being a casualty of the end game, then again the porn studio must take off as they name dropped venus and the actress in sg was a star of note so maybe she is just illusive by sg story events
 
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I can't wait for the reveal that Bella missing dad was a gangster too and that her sister was hurt during a gang war :WeSmart:
Ya I have assumed for a bit that Amber is / was married to a head honcho of one of the crime families (who is likely still alive and will return at some point).
 

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I finally finished playing it—oh fuck, what a bottomless pit Ocean dug themselves into! All this flirting, so much garbage across 4,800 renders, and the plot progression… Oh, and then this dumbass introduces a whole new storyline after eight years? The best idea his fried brain could come up with was taking a mafia world where we only knew Zane, Rivera, and the Petrovs… and dumping in an entire mafia nation?! Some people joked that John Wick doesn’t seem so unrealistic now—fine, whatever, keep the mafia. But then they cram in these medieval-ass marriage-of-convenience tropes? Brilliant plan! Take the mafia + arranged marriages + John Wick’s dog, chop it all up, flush it down the toilet, and hit ‘publish on Steam.’ A recipe as reliable as a Swiss watch. Now we’ve got seven more years of development for the rest of the mafia families, and if SS doesn’t ban incest, Ocean’s officially a clown. How they’ll dig themselves out of this mess? I don’t even care anymore. I refunded it on Steam. I supported a different game—one with actual logic and none of this mafia bullshit. And yes, ‘Giuseppe’ is a first name, not a surname. Germany was Italy’s ally—embarrassing not to know that. Whatever you’re smoking, quit it. Drugs are bad. For all your pedantry, how could you write this nonsense? Hire a student screenwriter. Stop wasting money on music.

I'm disappointed, first my ass was on fire, and now I'm just disappointed. I was waiting for this game, waiting for it on Steam to just blast through it, and now I'm sitting here writing this angry speech. Let's wait until SG comes out, I'm already anticipating what pile of mafia he's put there.

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Summer is a Zane... and if the new info they added about inter 'family' relationships leading to bad things then id say either they took her away cos of possibly who sg mc is related too.. or because he wasnt worthy of their 'blood' being with a low born like his true family.. or rival 'family'.. that said and i dont wanna make the universe too interconnected but he could be Leia's son... or that would be mt assumption if she wasnt the funder of the college bar already in sg
 

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But - at this point in the story she's got a toddler called Maja, and she's soon to be pregnant with Vic. Just like who I think is Elena will have to get pregnant with Sasha soone, and Amber will have to get pregnant with Bella and her sister pretty quick. There's only ~ 20 years between WiaB and SG, and some of the are older than 18 (Maja).
Bob, let's be more rational, it is predicted that 20 years passed between SG and WiAB, but it does not mean that it was 20 years at the exact moment that William and Miru set foot in "THE CITY THAT THEY ARE IN", a lot of things will still happen before we start counting the 20 years, and as everyone is sick of knowing, characters were remade, killed, new characters entered, the story changed, so I still maintain that this is Vic's mother, if it is Maja's too, I don't know.

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Summer is a Zane... and if the new info they added about inter 'family' relationships leading to bad things then id say either they took her away cos of possibly who sg mc is related too.. or because he wasnt worthy of their 'blood' being with a low born like his true family.. or rival 'family'.. that said and i dont wanna make the universe too interconnected but he could be Leia's son... or that would be mt assumption if she wasnt the funder of the college bar already in sg
Someone just posted today a quote from Ocean that Nika is not related to anyone we've met yet in WIAB. Yet being the operative word.
 
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Someone just posted today a quote from Ocean that Nika is not related to anyone we've met yet in WIAB. Yet being the operative word.
Ocean will never say anything, he likes to keep the suspense and if he's not careful he enjoys the theories of the crowd, unfortunately we'll have to wait about 5 years to find out more about Nika and Summer.
 
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