If chapter four is the "beginning" the more you advance the more you will notice the discordance with chapters 1 to 3. Even so, I hope there will be no rework. In this moment of good fortune it is better to move forward.Tô make this change fully work it would need to be a rework, but nobody wants that, but at least rewriting some scenes and dialogue should be in the picture. My fear is that the story becomes more disjointed as it moved forward.
If you have a patch you cannot continue.Is Where_it_all_Began-Season_1-market the season 4 update?
If i continue from my last save it end after a few saves. Do we have to continue fresh again?
It has already been officially stated that there are canon elements that do not depend on the choice of the players.Just something to think about: If William is actually Ayua's father, Ayua's conception must be "independent" of player decisions. By the way, Ayua's mother doesn't necessarily have to be Miru. Based on her traits, this applies to two other women, one of whom is only mentioned!
Miru is always static. Breaking up with her will never be a choice, sharing her will though.Just something to think about: If William is actually Ayua's father, Ayua's conception must be "independent" of player decisions. By the way, Ayua's mother doesn't necessarily have to be Miru. Based on her traits, this applies to two other women, one of whom is only mentioned!
But it would go against the whole point of Ocean doing all this to eliminate the family relationship between William, Katie and Leia. I honestly have no idea why Ocean continues to use Zane for William.OK, whut? Why couldn't Ayua Zane be William Grimaldi ZANE and Miru (or whatever her real name)'s child? The Grimaldi family doesn't exist anymore. William and Leia both use Zane, and are referred to by outsiders including cops as Zane. I am pretty sure that is their actual legal last names now. Despite not being adopted or foster kids... (yeah, that's stupid, but so's Palimony). Maybe they're common-law adopted?
Well, Mav loves Spaceballs, I liked old WiaB, reworked WiaB and now bright shiny new WiaB. Yes there's issues. I'm still enjoying it![]()
That...was fucking beautiful! I got a little choked up halfway through that majestic post
I think this might just be the most eye to eye we've seen on anything so far hahaha
Now we just gotta wait until Bob wakes up from his stupor, the hopium high he's currently riding before he overdoses
I basically agree on pretty much everything. The only positives this has left (besides of course Ocean's talent as an artist) are the interactions with the side characters and all the side plots. I loved every second spent with Gina and Kat. Zoe actually grew on me and I thoroughly enjoyed their business endeavour shenanigans. The only time spent with Miru I enjoyed was the apartment tour in chapter 4. She got done dirty imo. Katie has a few moments here and there when the retarded plot isn't mentioned. And I want more from Mon and Daphne.
Everything else is an abomination in my eyes. And whatever "testers" Ocean has are certainly chimps with cerebral palsy because the amount of grammar errors is still too high for something that was cooking for over a year and a half. Render errors too. Case and point:
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I don't think Jabba the Don is supposed to be illiterate. I call the tard Giopepe as mockery. I don't think she meant to do the same.
I disagree on one thing. I'm 99% out of this shitshow. A little toe is all I got in. And after Ocean stated Nami and the MC aren't connected to William/Miru/Katie/Leia, what the fuck is even the point of playing this trash? This plot is an unsalvageable, senseless abomination with a ridiculous scope straight out of a 12 year old's mind.
Well here's a thought: Emilio and Riri are the ones that decided to get William back in Wollust, they forced Leia to approach him. Which means... Helen's muteness is a red herring. The reason is that Leia's out of control , and Emilio and Riri are worried tha it'll impact the Zanes. So who are milio and Riri? If they were Leia's hired help, they wouldn't have a say. I think they're Joe's and they were left to manage things, show Leia the ropes.I figure its a red herring. Someone is playing the same game William did with that Krayt member. Stir shit up, pit gangs/families against each other. The attacks are not meant to be lethal, only scare and push the orgs' paranoia up until they fuck up and do the actual dirty work themselves.
Wollust is a powder keg, and this unknown player is just trying to get the fuse lit.
Thats my guess.
Presumably we find out by Ch28-30 or whatever how that dynamic works. How does William become a fully fledged Zane? Possibly he has to take on the name as a condition to prove his allegiance, abandoning his own. A dead family can still be a rallying point or figure head.But it would go against the whole point of Ocean doing all this to eliminate the family relationship between William, Katie and Leia. I honestly have no idea why Ocean continues to use Zane for William.
Despite the new regulations about naming and name changes in Germany (it makes some names accessible which were not before), the general ruling is still as follows: Names are not for fun, so parents are adviced to give names with meaning and not idiotic stuff like "Whisky Cola" or "Bilbo Beutlin" (It was actually requested once). As for family names changes are only allowed with important reasons. And no, our flatsharers have no good reason, only a full adoption would function. But as we now know that is not the case anymore.It's a bit of a stretch, but in my country you can change your surname in a judicial way, I could not find out how it is in Germany, since all the news lead me to a new disposition about the adoption of surnames since this year.
But it would go against the whole point of Ocean doing all this to eliminate the family relationship between William, Katie and Leia. I honestly have no idea why Ocean continues to use Zane for William.
You're drinking again, aren't you? Helen is not now, nor ever was an Arano. That's Joe's family. Scarlett, Helen's sister, married Joe and became an Arano. Not sure if that's a Latin name, but Latin Americans come in many colors, even in single families. Also, interracial marraiges exist? Also also, Helen is pretty dark skinned, but that's from tanning in the shade, right?Not comon-law adopted, probably more like once you are actually part of the family and not just an underling mook, you get the family name. That would explain why the Krayt leader is an Aranos despite being black and the other Aranos like Helen very much not being so. The families take in and uplift people to the Family even if they're not blood related.
Maybe Ocean introduced that as a custom for all the families to make it seem not so weird that the Zanes did so for William and Leia.
Personally if we have to go in this direction I prefer to go full mafia John Wick styleThe biggest thing missing in Ch4 is William's regret, he turns from emot gigachad to action hero gigachad.
So we have to become GodfatherHow does William become a fully fledged Zane? Possibly he has to take on the name as a condition to prove his allegiance, abandoning his own. A dead family can still be a rallying point or figure head.
But for the weight it would be more natural to say "I am William Grimaldi and I am here representing the Zane Family"I seem to recall Ocean using all three variants:
If it's official, then William Grimaldi Zane
If he wants to add weight, then William Zane
And I seem to recall (not just at the FBI) that he's called William Grimaldi
Same reason people don't really simp for Daphne, just not given enough screen time yet.Also: why the fuck don't I ever hear anyone simping for Scarlett, clearly one of the hottest women in this game? Something about that tiny hat....
Scar was never considered a LI, so there was little to root for... that said, she was a cougar who didn't let any opportunity pass her by. Since the rework Scar was never shown as an option, so there wasn't much to root for here either.You're drinking again, aren't you? Helen is not now, nor ever was an Arano. That's Joe's family. Scarlett, Helen's sister, married Joe and became an Arano. Not sure if that's a Latin name, but Latin Americans come in many colors, even in single families. Also, interracial marraiges exist? Also also, Helen is pretty dark skinned, but that's from tanning in the shade, right?
Also: why the fuck don't I ever hear anyone simping for Scarlett, clearly one of the hottest women in this game? Something about that tiny hat....
Why does Ocean hate me? XDI'm waiting for the bombshell of SG getting reworked and Nami being cut as a LI.
The hats make her too "Posh"Also: why the fuck don't I ever hear anyone simping for Scarlett, clearly one of the hottest women in this game? Something about that tiny hat....
In the US, too, but it's a very expensive process due to identity theft and financial crimes. Many states require you to pay for a full background search (over $10K) to prove you're not trying to change names to avoid debts or a criminal prosecution, etc..It's a bit of a stretch, but in my country you can change your surname in a judicial way, I could not find out how it is in Germany, since all the news lead me to a new disposition about the adoption of surnames since this year.
Yeah, I meant Scarlett, not Helen. My brain is melting.You're drinking again, aren't you? Helen is not now, nor ever was an Arano. That's Joe's family. Scarlett, Helen's sister, married Joe and became an Arano. Not sure if that's a Latin name, but Latin Americans come in many colors, even in single families. Also, interracial marraiges exist? Also also, Helen is pretty dark skinned, but that's from tanning in the shade, right?
Also: why the fuck don't I ever hear anyone simping for Scarlett, clearly one of the hottest women in this game? Something about that tiny hat....
The Krayt leader is why Joe is in prison, Joe laid him out cold. Joe is the leader of the bike club. Joe is the Arano. Krayts are a gang, just pure thuggery, no need for family names, just the law of the concrete and asphalt.Yeah, I meant Scarlett, not Helen. My brain is melting.
Fair point on the interracial marriage point. Curious that he took the Aranos name while remaining a Krayt leader. Also, I guess that means the Krayts are under the Aranos umbrella? So William is stirring shit up with Joe's boys by fucking with them? Heh.![]()
Katie is a fish from the single weird lake of Wollust.Personally if we have to go in this direction I prefer to go full mafia John Wick style
Anyway my friend you forgot the biggest inconsistency: is Katie a freshwater or saltwater fish? In chapter 3 he defines her as a creature of the deep in chapter 4 he tells her to rest in his lake... I demand answers
So we have to become Godfather
But for the weight it would be more natural to say "I am William Grimaldi and I am here representing the Zane Family"