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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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byaaahh

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exuses excuses... but you buy all of this because your reasons.
What's funny is I was a huge fan who would overlook small inconsistencies in the past, but after the horrendous butchering of Ch4, nope!

Also no examples of inconsistencies prior to Ch4 have been presented. (y)
 
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FalconLover420

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So I finished playing but it looks like some scenes are missing and the patreon button gets deleted.

If anyone can help me out, that would be great.

Also would be greatful if someone can give me a TLDR, because the story is still foggy regarding the events.

All I know is Katie hates the MC's guts but Leia kinda at times likes him and other times, doesnt.
Then the accident involving the family and Leia being blackmailed. Im lost lol
 

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So I finished playing but it looks like some scenes are missing and the patreon button gets deleted.

If anyone can help me out, that would be great.
Not really much to go on. What do you think is missing and where does it end?
 

sorco2003

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What's funny is I was a huge fan who would overlook small inconsistencies in the past, but after the horrendous butchering of Ch4, nope!

Also no examples of inconsistencies prior to Ch4 have been presented. (y)
You are still the same, you don't accept the inconsistencies of the old, you only want to hear that the new is shit and on top of that you want everyone to say that the new is shit. And then the fanatics are the others. :rolleyes:
 
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sorco2003

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So I finished playing but it looks like some scenes are missing and the patreon button gets deleted.

If anyone can help me out, that would be great.

Also would be greatful if someone can give me a TLDR, because the story is still foggy regarding the events.

All I know is Katie hates the MC's guts but Leia kinda at times likes him and other times, doesnt.
Then the accident involving the family and Leia being blackmailed. Im lost lol
Wiab has not had a patreon since March of last year. As for missing scenes, how does what you played end?
 

mmbeast23

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where is chapter 4? i downloaded it and it plays only to the end of chapter 3. even in the game folder it only has chapter 1-3 no 4 at all. am i missing something?
Did you ever find a fix? I ran into the same issue. Might have missed the solution if someone responded.
 

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Edited my comment to add more.
Some of the images are missing and it ends with Leia calling the MC
I'm pretty sure you need to remove the mods

You are still the same, you don't accept the inconsistencies of the old, you only want to hear that the new is shit and on top of that you want everyone to say that the new is shit. And then the fanatics are the others. :rolleyes:
Hey new shit is always more interesting than old shit XD

I was wondering when we will succeed in our intent Katie/Miru.. what will the structure of the sandwich be?
William → Katie ← Miru
William → Miru ← Katie
Miru → William ← Katie
 
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byaaahh

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You are still the same, you don't accept the inconsistencies of the old, you only want to hear that the new is shit and on top of that you want everyone to say that the new is shit. And then the fanatics are the others. :rolleyes:
Your idea of inconsistent is Leia gets out the car to make a phone call in the rain (clearly an artistic choice) and none of the family contacted William in the 7 years he was gone (like he didn't have reasons to avoid some of them and others wouldn't want to).
 

sorco2003

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I'm pretty sure you need to remove the mods


Hey new shit is always more interesting than old shit XD

I was wondering when we will succeed in our intent Katie/Miru.. what will the structure of the sandwich be?
William → Katie ← Miru
William → Miru ← Katie
Miru → William ← Katie
Yes :p





and Zoey too.
 

sorco2003

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Your idea of inconsistent is Leia gets out the car to make a phone call in the rain (clearly an artistic choice) and none of the family contacted William in the 7 years he was gone (like he didn't have reasons to avoid some of them and others wouldn't want to).
Those are your explanations, not explanations given within the story. If you can't realize that you do the same thing you accuse others of, I'm not the one you should be talking to.
Have a nice day.
 

byaaahh

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Those are your explanations, not explanations given within the story. If you can't realize that you do the same thing you accuse others of, I'm not the one you should be talking to.
Have a nice day.
An inconsistency would be if Leia's phone only ever worked in the rain, then she suddenly could make phone calls on the surface of the sun.

Also, William's actions in leaving without explanation prove he was avoiding certain members of the family.
 

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Wait are you saying that the game made sense before Ch4 ? I relly like Ocean work, but is not like things are air tight back then. Is not that Ch4 makes more or less sense that 1-3 is that it seem to contradict each other and at times Ch4 seems to contradict itself. I won't make judgemant until the end of the seasons but WiaB was never with out plot holes if you thought deep enough. The thing is the emotional punch and "mob law" will never have the same impact of incest, specially one as ill define as the one Ocean presented in this update, specially one that the punishing is as vague as this one Ocean presented in this update. And here is the problem because where WiaB shined, and still does, is in its characters and relationship ans right now those are incredible ill define. Who is Helen now? A caring mother or a rutheless crime boss ? I don't know. She could even be both but the story goes back and fort and dosen't make clear nothing, for plot it fine, for characters not so much.

I was much more invested on William and his characters relationship when it had incest ? Yes. It just had much more weight. Does I hate the game now ? No. But if we are leaving incest behind lets leave it all behind, there is not substitute for it, só lets move forward, lets suck Katie tiddies and fuck Leia and cuck Dylan and let it be. Don't make mob rules that nobody understand, political marriages that dosen't make sense. Make the story about mob and forget the rest. Long life to the New- New Where it all Began.
 
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