VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[jadepaladin]

Edited my comment to add more.
Some of the images are missing and it ends with Leia calling the MC

That's the end of chapter 3. Delete any mods you are using (except URM, it's fine) and definitely chuck the i-patch, then start over. The story has changed and incest doesn't exactly fit anymore.

 

[mmbeast23]

where is chapter 4? i downloaded it and it plays only to the end of chapter 3. even in the game folder it only has chapter 1-3 no 4 at all. am i missing something?

Did you ever find a fix? I ran into the same issue. Might have missed the solution if someone responded.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Edited my comment to add more.
Some of the images are missing and it ends with Leia calling the MC

I'm pretty sure you need to remove the mods

You are still the same, you don't accept the inconsistencies of the old, you only want to hear that the new is shit and on top of that you want everyone to say that the new is shit. And then the fanatics are the others.

Hey new shit is always more interesting than old shit XD

I was wondering when we will succeed in our intent Katie/Miru.. what will the structure of the sandwich be?
William → Katie ← Miru
William → Miru ← Katie
Miru → William ← Katie

 

[sorco2003]

Did you ever find a fix? I ran into the same issue. Might have missed the solution if someone responded.

you have to play without patch.

 

[byaaahh]

You are still the same, you don't accept the inconsistencies of the old, you only want to hear that the new is shit and on top of that you want everyone to say that the new is shit. And then the fanatics are the others.

Your idea of inconsistent is Leia gets out the car to make a phone call in the rain (clearly an artistic choice) and none of the family contacted William in the 7 years he was gone (like he didn't have reasons to avoid some of them and others wouldn't want to).

 

[sorco2003]

I'm pretty sure you need to remove the mods


Hey new shit is always more interesting than old shit XD

I was wondering when we will succeed in our intent Katie/Miru.. what will the structure of the sandwich be?
William → Katie ← Miru
William → Miru ← Katie
Miru → William ← Katie

Yes





and Zoey too.

 

[sorco2003]

Your idea of inconsistent is Leia gets out the car to make a phone call in the rain (clearly an artistic choice) and none of the family contacted William in the 7 years he was gone (like he didn't have reasons to avoid some of them and others wouldn't want to).

Those are your explanations, not explanations given within the story. If you can't realize that you do the same thing you accuse others of, I'm not the one you should be talking to.
Have a nice day.

 

[mmbeast23]

you have to play without patch.

I

you have to play without patch.

Thank god for the skip button. That was the fix, appreciate the help.

 

[byaaahh]

Those are your explanations, not explanations given within the story. If you can't realize that you do the same thing you accuse others of, I'm not the one you should be talking to.
Have a nice day.

An inconsistency would be if Leia's phone only ever worked in the rain, then she suddenly could make phone calls on the surface of the sun.

Also, William's actions in leaving without explanation prove he was avoiding certain members of the family.

 

[LHDLLB]

Wait are you saying that the game made sense before Ch4 ? I relly like Ocean work, but is not like things are air tight back then. Is not that Ch4 makes more or less sense that 1-3 is that it seem to contradict each other and at times Ch4 seems to contradict itself. I won't make judgemant until the end of the seasons but WiaB was never with out plot holes if you thought deep enough. The thing is the emotional punch and "mob law" will never have the same impact of incest, specially one as ill define as the one Ocean presented in this update, specially one that the punishing is as vague as this one Ocean presented in this update. And here is the problem because where WiaB shined, and still does, is in its characters and relationship ans right now those are incredible ill define. Who is Helen now? A caring mother or a rutheless crime boss ? I don't know. She could even be both but the story goes back and fort and dosen't make clear nothing, for plot it fine, for characters not so much.

I was much more invested on William and his characters relationship when it had incest ? Yes. It just had much more weight. Does I hate the game now ? No. But if we are leaving incest behind lets leave it all behind, there is not substitute for it, só lets move forward, lets suck Katie tiddies and fuck Leia and cuck Dylan and let it be. Don't make mob rules that nobody understand, political marriages that dosen't make sense. Make the story about mob and forget the rest. Long life to the New- New Where it all Began.

 

[Maviarab]

I have a Q for everyone....some may actually know if in Disco, I have the Disco perma muted so only ever get notification of dev logs:

Prior to 4, this line was very, very ambigious:

How do you get a car like this? Don't have sex for 15 years.

It was often discussed at the time and also at the time, we had no frame of reference at all regarding how long Gigachad was in prison for, we only had Miru's 5 years, 11 days stuff regarding how long they had been together.

So now we know, one month after leaving Wollust, he was then sent down for 2 years and we assume that Miru is only counting them being 'together' since his first day of release...

It throws Leia's comment about 15 years into more confusion....or am I just missing something plainly obvious?

 

[FalconLover420]

Wiab has not had a patreon since March of last year. As for missing scenes, how does what you played end?

That's the end of chapter 3. Delete any mods you are using (except URM, it's fine) and definitely chuck the i-patch, then start over. The story has changed and incest doesn't exactly fit anymore.

I'm pretty sure you need to remove the mods

Thank you all!! it woks perfectly, I removed the patch and the mod.

 

[Maviarab]

Thank you all!! it woks perfectly, I removed the patch and the mod.

Enjoy

 

[byaaahh]

Wait are you saying that the game made sense before Ch4 ? I relly like Ocean work, but is not like things are air tight back then. Is not that Ch4 makes more or less sense that 1-3 is that it seem to contradict each other and at times Ch4 seems to contradict itself. I won't make judgemant until the end of the seasons but WiaB was never with out plot holes if you thought deep enough. The thing is the emotional punch and "mob law" will never have the same impact of incest, specially one as ill define as the one Ocean presented in this update, specially one that the punishing is as vague as this one Ocean presented in this update. And here is the problem because where WiaB shined, and still does, is in its characters and relationship ans right now those are incredible ill define. Who is Helen now? A caring mother or a rutheless crime boss ? I don't know. She could even be both but the story goes back and fort and dosen't make clear nothing, for plot it fine, for characters not so much.

I was much more invested on William and his characters relationship when it had incest ? Yes. It just had much more weight. Does I hate the game now ? No. But if we are leaving incest behind lets leave it all behind, there is not substitute for it, só lets move forward, lets suck Katie tiddies and fuck Leia and cuck Dylan and let it be. Don't make mob rules that nobody understand, political marriages that dosen't make sense. Make the story about mob and forget the rest. Long life to the New- New Where it all Began.

The game made the most sense when all of them were Zanes.
Less so when Helen/Dylan/Katie were Zanes and William and Leia were twins raised by a surrogate family, but adoption exists so... forgivable.
Now "La famiglia", it makes zero sense for William to return being overly concerned for the woman who was party responsible for him being orphaned and used as a pawn.

 

[byaaahh]

I have a Q for everyone....some may actually know if in Disco, I have the Disco perma muted so only ever get notification of dev logs:

Prior to 4, this line was very, very ambigious:

How do you get a car like this? Don't have sex for 15 years.

It was often discussed at the time and also at the time, we had no frame of reference at all regarding how long Gigachad was in prison for, we only had Miru's 5 years, 11 days stuff regarding how long they had been together.

So now we know, one month after leaving Wollust, he was then sent down for 2 years and we assume that Miru is only counting them being 'together' since his first day of release...

It throws Leia's comment about 15 years into more confusion....or am I just missing something plainly obvious?

Are we even certain Will and Leia fucked? We know William was fucking others prior to leaving, but Leia was never confirmed.

Ocean may have been keeping it as an incest buffer and forgot to retroactively change it. Considering Will is confirmed 24, slanging wang 15 years ago is far more egregious than all the incest Ocean wiped.

 

[sorco2003]

I have a Q for everyone....some may actually know if in Disco, I have the Disco perma muted so only ever get notification of dev logs:

Prior to 4, this line was very, very ambigious:

How do you get a car like this? Don't have sex for 15 years.

It was often discussed at the time and also at the time, we had no frame of reference at all regarding how long Gigachad was in prison for, we only had Miru's 5 years, 11 days stuff regarding how long they had been together.

So now we know, one month after leaving Wollust, he was then sent down for 2 years and we assume that Miru is only counting them being 'together' since his first day of release...

It throws Leia's comment about 15 years into more confusion....or am I just missing something plainly obvious?

To me, I always understood that Leia was making a joke to William, that if he didn't fuck for 15 years he was going to get it. I never associated it with Leia being a virgin or anything like that (not even in the old WIAB Leia was a virgin). Or that that was how long Leia had gone without fucking.

 

[LHDLLB]

To me, I always understood that Leia was making a joke to William, that if he didn't fuck for 15 years he was going to get it. I never associated it with Leia being a virgin or anything like that (not even in the old WIAB Leia was a virgin). Or that that was how long Leia had gone without fucking.

Yeah, I agree. Never took for anything more than that.

 

[FalconLover420]

To me, I always understood that Leia was making a joke to William, that if he didn't fuck for 15 years he was going to get it. I never associated it with Leia being a virgin or anything like that (not even in the old WIAB Leia was a virgin). Or that that was how long Leia had gone without fucking.

This!
We know during the meeting with MC and Leia
she has two versions
NTR ON Leia says that she meets people semi regularly including the MC's time at that place
NTR OFF Leia claims that she had dates here and there, but no relationships recently

ngl I am still confused in the relationships with all the characters or how they say one thing but say/do another.
Hell im still confused on the story haha

 

[Penfold Mole]

What's funny is I was a huge fan who would overlook small inconsistencies in the past, but after the horrendous butchering of Ch4, nope!

Also no examples of inconsistencies prior to Ch4 have been presented.

Inconsistencies-inconshmistencies... It's not like Ocean is the worst author ever because of these inconsistencies and absurdities

Spoiler: Who says that this was the worst movie ever because, you know... raindrops?! Right?

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And this is just one example.
We'll get over this! The rope just squeezes and hurts at first, but we'll get used to it after a while.

 

[X2JZcf]

Inconsistencies-inconshmistencies... It's not like Ocean is the worst author ever because of these inconsistencies and absurdities

Spoiler: Who says that this was the worst movie ever because, you know... raindrops?! Right?

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And this is just one example.
We'll get over this! The rope just squeezes and hurts at first, but we'll get used to it after a while.

Everything will be forgiven when Ocean makes an analogue of this scene, but for Helen and William.

Spoiler: Family abuse

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