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Maviarab

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Stuff like the intro cinematic got re-added, renders that weren't used got tossed back in, etc. You can read all about it on the mod page under features.
Which I also did...without changing any of the dynamic/dialogue.
 

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Stuff like the intro cinematic got re-added, renders that weren't used got tossed back in, etc. You can read all about it on the mod page under features.
Yeah I did read it, just didnt want to list everything... My question that is it worth a replay? Cuz if its just some dialog diff and a few images (which you can check btw in the mod folders before installing it...), I dont want to spend another x hours to play it again. Btw the mod rewrites the persistent file or something since I cant even use skipp option on the already seen texts to fast forward to the new dialogs...
 

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Yeah I did read it, just didnt want to list everything... My question that is it worth a replay? Cuz if its just some dialog diff and a few images (which you can check btw in the mod folders before installing it...), I dont want to spend another x hours to play it again. Btw the mod rewrites the persistent file or something since I cant even use skipp option on the already seen texts to fast forward to the new dialogs...
I would say no in that case. Maybe save it for a future replay if you choose to start over. Other than images left out that were added and grammar corrections there isn't that much more if you're satisfied with what you got so far. I'm sure there are other ways to check out the intro cinematic if you're really interested but it doesn't contain anything worth much trouble, imo.
 

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I'm sure there are other ways to check out the intro cinematic if you're really interested but it doesn't contain anything worth much trouble, imo.
It can be found easily on YouTube or unpack the cinematic.rpyc (in Ch3 folder or alaian's mod, or dl my own fix for it seperately) for the hd version.

 

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So.. Is anyone working on a full family patch on this one? Or should I make my own? I'm asking since the rushed "uncut" edition probably ruined this game for half the forum users. Anyone works on a patch? I can help, I'm already working on this, so send me a PM if anyone is interested
 
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Maviarab

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Is anyone working on a full family patch on this one?
What? One in the OP...
Or should I make my own?
Entirely up to you if you think you can do it better than Alain.
I'm asking since the rushed "uncut" edition probably ruined this game for half the forum users.
What?
Anyone works on a patch?
See first comment...

You also can't just 'patch it. Would make no godamn sense. To change to 'family'...it needs a rewrite, which is exactly what Alain did...but apparently, for some reason, you like stating unfounded facts based on...well, not really sure what you're basing that on...
 

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Probably Katie didn't trust you enough in your playthrough and you haven't reached this branch:
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I guess I brushed past that a little, even though I do remember it. I just don't think that was given as the reason why he ran away. It's hard to say for sure with all the changes. The 'first domino' implying that there are more reasons. Oh well. I still have trouble keeping up with all of the rewriting and retcon fuckery.
 
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I know its an offtopic question, but do you guys know any other games with this high quality renders? I know the main ones(Summers Gone, Summer Heat, Being a DIK, City of Broken Dreamers...) But can you recommend me some hidden ones? Or link me the forum discussion where I can find it. Thanks. :)
 

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I know its an offtopic question, but do you guys know any other games with this high quality renders? I know the main ones(Summers Gone, Summer Heat, Being a DIK, City of Broken Dreamers...) But can you recommend me some hidden ones? Or link me the forum discussion where I can find it. Thanks. :)

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Go to the OP and download the Uncut Edition Mod. It was made by Alain. When chapter 5 comes out next decade or whenever, you'll need to wait on them to update the mod to continue your save but it'll give you the incest if that's what you're looking for.
Ok, thanks. Katie is so hot sister, so I can't wait. It's shame that Miru isn't MC:s sister, because Miru is very hot too. But maybe in mod I can make Miru MC's sister, i don't know.
 

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So.. Is anyone working on a full family patch on this one? Or should I make my own? I'm asking since the rushed "uncut" edition probably ruined this game for half the forum users. Anyone works on a patch? I can help, I'm already working on this, so send me a PM if anyone is interested
Yes please a full family patch it would be incredible. Without it it loses its essence..
 
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So.. Is anyone working on a full family patch on this one? Or should I make my own? I'm asking since the rushed "uncut" edition probably ruined this game for half the forum users. Anyone works on a patch? I can help, I'm already working on this, so send me a PM if anyone is interested
I might be interested. As long as you don't completely re-write the whole game like the Taboo patch has it. I've played it with and without that patch, and I actually like it without. At least it isn't the stupid landlady when it is meant to be mom. The Dev changed it to adoptive parents. Which works good.
 

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I might be interested. As long as you don't completely re-write the whole game like the Taboo patch has it. I've played it with and without that patch, and I actually like it without. At least it isn't the stupid landlady when it is meant to be mom. The Dev changed it to adoptive parents. Which works good.
And once again, you can't change it back to family without rewriting parts of the entire story.
 

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And once again, you can't change it back to family without rewriting parts of the entire story.
I get that. But almost every piece of dialogue was changed. Even conversations with Miru before Leia calls him was changed. And they didn't need to be, in my opinion. There's changing a little bit to make it incest-able. And there is completely changing what the Dev had envisioned in the first place. That's all I'm saying. Don't change the entire game. Just the parts about mom, dad, and sisters.
 

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I get that. But almost every piece of dialogue was changed. Even conversations with Miru before Leia calls him was changed. And they didn't need to be, in my opinion. There's changing a little bit to make it incest-able. And there is completely changing what the Dev had envisioned in the first place. That's all I'm saying. Don't change the entire game. Just the parts about mom, dad, and sisters.
Ahhh I didn't actually realise that (I have no interest in it). I'll agree, that's just utterly pointless changes for the sake of it.

I have no issue with it as it is. Sure, dropping the ic is disappointing but the story hasn't really changed and I'm not obsessed enough with a fetish to either whine all day about it or rewrite entire sections of the plot to put it back in. Why in my own mod I only added back the cinematic and one render. No script changes at all (dialogue).
 

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Ahhh I didn't actually realise that (I have no interest in it). I'll agree, that's just utterly pointless changes for the sake of it.

I have no issue with it as it is. Sure, dropping the ic is disappointing but the story hasn't really changed and I'm not obsessed enough with a fetish to either whine all day about it or rewrite entire sections of the plot to put it back in. Why in my own mod I only added back the cinematic and one render. No script changes at all (dialogue).
Yeah. I like your mod. I was only talking about the Taboo mod itself. I don't usually use mods when I play the version I buy on Steam. That's how I know that the Taboo one rewrote almost the entire game. As far as I had gotten into it anyway. I like where it gives a player a heads up on what to chose.
 
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alain8891

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I get that. But almost every piece of dialogue was changed. Even conversations with Miru before Leia calls him was changed. And they didn't need to be, in my opinion. There's changing a little bit to make it incest-able. And there is completely changing what the Dev had envisioned in the first place. That's all I'm saying. Don't change the entire game. Just the parts about mom, dad, and sisters.
You missed the point of what my mod was all about. It comes in two flavors: one standard and one taboo. Both reintroduce the intro cinematic and renders there and there, and the Taboo goes further in reintroducing MC and Leia as being siblings. But that was not the main purpose of the mod.

Changing the whole dialog was a deliberate choice of mine. I'm not doing mods the way someone else would feel like it should be done, I'm doing them the way I would appreciate them. Ocean's storytelling (and the same is true of Summer's Gone) is poor. Its dialog writing is not proper English, there are typos all around, grammar mistakes and awkward phrasing in almost every sentence. You can live with that, fine. I can't. It distracts me from really enjoying the game.

Changing the parts about Mom, Dad and sisters would mean rewriting the whole story. Essentially making a whole different game. You wanna do that? Fine, be my guest, everyone is entitled to creating a mod if he feels like it.

But people on here thinking they can do a full incest mode with how the story currently pans out are either delusional, or haven't even paid attention to the story in Chapter 4.
 

alain8891

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So.. Is anyone working on a full family patch on this one? Or should I make my own? I'm asking since the rushed "uncut" edition probably ruined this game for half the forum users. Anyone works on a patch? I can help, I'm already working on this, so send me a PM if anyone is interested
"rushed" uncut...right, I even went as far as altering several renders to not distract from Leia and MC being siblings in my Taboo mod, but it's "rushed".
Or maybe it's "rushed" because you think you can do a full family rewrite of Chapter 4? At least my mod does preserve the story, there's no way yours could...

As for ruining the game for "half the forum users"...thanks for the vote of confidence, I hardly doubt half the forum users play WiAB, let alone with my mod.
 

Ratonton

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You missed the point of what my mod was all about. It comes in two flavors: one standard and one taboo. Both reintroduce the intro cinematic and renders there and there, and the Taboo goes further in reintroducing MC and Leia as being siblings. But that was not the main purpose of the mod.

Changing the whole dialog was a deliberate choice of mine. I'm not doing mods the way someone else would feel like it should be done, I'm doing them the way I would appreciate them. Ocean's storytelling (and the same is true of Summer's Gone) is poor. Its dialog writing is not proper English, there are typos all around, grammar mistakes and awkward phrasing in almost every sentence. You can live with that, fine. I can't. It distracts me from really enjoying the game.

Changing the parts about Mom, Dad and sisters would mean rewriting the whole story. Essentially making a whole different game. You wanna do that? Fine, be my guest, everyone is entitled to creating a mod if he feels like it.

But people on here thinking they can do a full incest mode with how the story currently pans out are either delusional, or haven't even paid attention to the story in Chapter 4.
Since you are here, can you give me an example how you rewrote the dialogs? Like before and after dialogs examples. I asked a few days ago about ur mod, that should I replay the game (played only the original), tbh it was fine for me (english not my native lang), but thinking about replaying it if its worth it.
 

alain8891

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Since you are here, can you give me an example how you rewrote the dialogs? Like before and after dialogs examples. I asked a few days ago about ur mod, that should I replay the game (played only the original), tbh it was fine for me (english not my native lang), but thinking about replaying it if its worth it.
Here's an example...in Chapter 1, when MC says his goodbyes to Daphne...I'd be honest and say that if you've enjoyed the original, you might not want to replay it again with my mod, unless you wanna go for the Taboo version and/or the additional renders/cinematic. But the script itself wouldn't probably be reason enough for a replay.

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