VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[NewTricks]

I didn't realize this was a supernatural game about a disembodied spirit trying to live again. So is it Summer who is trying to find a body to animate?

I think that in this sense "spirit" is used in its uncommon definition of being an individual, not a ghost. I think it could be phrased better and if I was editing it I would have put "BW" over it. It is referring to the MC, who has been a shut-in for years after his prepubescent crush left, disappeared, died, etc. Now he is being hit in the face with a tidal wave of pussy but is still a miserable bastard. Have fun!

 

[Jhon99x]

can mc fuck his mom up to now??

 

[lipe2410]

can mc fuck his mom up to now??

Since "up to now" is one single and short chapter, no

 

[Agrik]

The sad trend to remake famous games continues.
Terrible looking new MC (doll face and tattoo on the whole arm), handsome Miru, who completely changes your attitude towards other characters, a snake in a bag, a snake around his neck (I don’t like snakes since childhood).
I don't think I'll be waiting for a sequel.
It's a good thing I didn't see this before - last year was a sad one anyway.

 

[Cabin Fever]

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I have to agree with most here. New Scarlet looks too young. And maybe this is just my silly opinion, but if lighting makes that much of a difference, then Scarlet simply wasn't "aged" enough to begin with. For example, you don't see anybody saying that Helen didn't look old enough in any lighting conditions.

And that "high-end couture meet modern witch" hat and dress, it's just not age- & situation-appropriate. I think that also contributed greatly to the new Scarlet problem. Put it on Leia, it's "Va-va-vroom, I'm sexy bitch!". Put it on Scarlet, it's "I'm a stupid cougar that still wears a red-carpet dress to a backyard home barbeque!" Yikes!

 

[NeroZee]

Yes, Helen and Scarlet are sisters.
Daphne is a new character.
Leia would be sister of the MC.
And I agree with your assessment about Scarlet's appearance.
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Once again i have to preface that i love Oceanlabs games, i have nothing against the developer at all. Butttt......... this seems like a big cope... I dont think "light conditions" are gonna do anything to change the fact that she at the very most looks maybe around 30 years old... and that's if i am being very charitable, while Helen could easily pass of as being in her early 40's or at least late 30's.
But beyond just that she looks bland... I mean if these 2 women stood next to each other, i wouldn't even notice Scarlett was there.


Lets be real with one another, she can wear the lowest V cut shirt in existence and she still looks like a peasant next to a Queen. Once again not trying to harp on Ocean or anything, it's just weird because as i said many times before out of all the developers out there he is the only one that has made me LOVE every single girl he has ever designed in Summers Gone, like every single one looks breathtaking and i was expecting the same with WITB once he started redoing them and it was going like that so far but here it was a total miss IMO. I think the game is kind of missing a proper "cougar" MILF that is a bit more "naughty" and open about things than her sister which Scarlett was suppose to be. Kind of a shame really, also changing her from blonde was another big mistake IMO.

 

[NewTricks]

For those who hate the snake, I don't think that you will have to worry about seeing him again. I think that he was just there to show that the MC likes snakes and from Leia's jewelry she likes them too. It is a visual shorthand for how similar they are even though they have spent so much time apart. Plus, if MC cheats on her Miru will probably eat him.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

For those who hate the snake, I don't think that you will have to worry about seeing him again. I think that he was just there to show that the MC likes snakes and from Leia's jewelry she likes them too. It is a visual shorthand for how similar they are even though they have spent so much time apart. Plus, if MC cheats on her Miru will probably eat him.

I have a theory / idea about the snake

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-1-reworked-full-oceanlab.19856/post-7000050

 

[Agrik]

I think that he was just there to show that the MC likes snakes and from Leia's jewelry she likes them too.

I don't know what the developer meant by this, but I know for sure that in version 0.6 of the game, I considered Leia one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen . After updating the graphics, such thoughts do not come to my mind.

 

[slightchance]

Scarlet from chapter 2 + 3 looked her age and was still sexy whereas the new Scarlet got the plastic doll treatment. Really boring development so far. The new graphics do nothing for me.

 

[tttttttt84]

Anybody else having problems with missing save, load, main menu buttons at the android version?

 

[Laehtsia]

Once again i have to preface that i love Oceanlabs games, i have nothing against the developer at all. Butttt......... this seems like a big cope... I dont think "light conditions" are gonna do anything to change the fact that she at the very most looks maybe around 30 years old... and that's if i am being very charitable, while Helen could easily pass of as being in her early 40's or at least late 30's.
But beyond just that she looks bland... I mean if these 2 women stood next to each other, i wouldn't even notice Scarlett was there.
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Lets be real with one another, she can wear the lowest V cut shirt in existence and she still looks like a peasant next to a Queen. Once again not trying to harp on Ocean or anything, it's just weird because as i said many times before out of all the developers out there he is the only one that has made me LOVE every single girl he has ever designed in Summers Gone, like every single one looks breathtaking and i was expecting the same with WITB once he started redoing them and it was going like that so far but here it was a total miss IMO. I think the game is kind of missing a proper "cougar" MILF that is a bit more "naughty" and open about things than her sister which Scarlett was suppose to be. Kind of a shame really, also changing her from blonde was another big mistake IMO.

Sorry but IMO the MC looks so ridiculous and cliche in this game

 

[J1215]

For those who hate the snake, I don't think that you will have to worry about seeing him again. I think that he was just there to show that the MC likes snakes and from Leia's jewelry she likes them too. It is a visual shorthand for how similar they are even though they have spent so much time apart. Plus, if MC cheats on her Miru will probably eat him.

Snakes are one of the most common phobias among people. This means that these people will no longer be able to play games where snakes are present. (Even if they want to play). - (Even if otherwise like this game).

 

[akiostein]

best game i have ever played. but for this version I have not tried it. but I know that it will be better than the previous game. i love you dev. good game.

 

[NewTricks]

Snakes are one of the most common phobias among people. This means that these people will no longer be able to play games where snakes are present. (Even if they want to play). - (Even if otherwise like this game).

 

[ytytm]

what the song playing in menu

 

[lonelyk]

Sorry but IMO the MC looks so ridiculous and cliche in this game

That's another thing I agree with. I liked the original MC better as he looked like a normal, trustworthy guy. The new MC is just a visual overload to be honest. And not in the right way.
But that's the second character I criticize the rework of, so I feel compelled to say that I find that Helen and Miru benefited a lot from the rework. There's still room for improvement with those two I feel, but they look much, much better than they did originally.

 

[geraltriss]

Ch.6 Scarlet > New Scarlet

Change my mind

yeah right..

 

[Laehtsia]

That's another thing I agree with. I liked the original MC better as he looked like a normal, trustworthy guy. The new MC is just a visual overload to be honest. And not in the right way.
But that's the second character I criticize the rework of, so I feel compelled to say that I find that Helen and Miru benefited a lot from the rework. There's still room for improvement with those two I feel, but they look much, much better than they did originally.

To be honest I played the original version just 15min like 2 years ago so I can't remember old characters design, but yes I feel like I'm a generic falsely deep character on juice. However I hated Miru's model but I like it pretty much now. So I totally agree, some reworks are cool and others are not, but I think it's still an huge improvement overall.

 

[TheDukeofWeapons]

If you think NTR is bad there is a certain couple I knew....Last name Winters...Their stories started with her telling her husband Shhhh Daddies coming.....Poor Poor Ethan.