VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Massagecook01

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I think it's reverse psychology on this forum the very people that have not or is not right now supporting Oceanlab are the ones defending him.Verses the once that complain are the ones that been and are currently supporting him because they are the ones out the money so have the biggest reason to complain because it's costing them something. And the ones that are white knights act like they are the heroes to defend Oceanlab but have no stake it the game whatsoever.:cool::coffee:
 
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Maccabbee

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I think it's reverse psychology on this forum the very people that have not or is not right now supporting Oceanlab are the ones defending him.Verses the once that complain are the ones that been and are currently supporting him because they are the ones out the money so have the biggest reason to complain because it's costing them something. And the ones that are white knights act like they are the heroes to defend Oceanlab but have no stake it the game whatsoever.:cool::coffee:
That's a pretty stupid take. Nobody is forcing supporters to give money to Ocean. They could have stopped at any point in time, could stop, then start again after progress is shown, whatever. If you want to support someone, and have a problem with doing it, then either complain on that platform, where it's appropriate, or get therapy to find out why you're either continuing to give money to someone you're angry with, or why you're angry about something you keep doing. Neither sounds particularly healthy.

People who "white knight" are not always defending Ocean, they're just sick of all the bitching and complaining. This forum is the main way many of us follow the progress of the game and find out about updates. Getting a notification and finding out that it's just bitching and whining all the time is really frustrating. It also serves no real purpose.
 

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I think it's reverse psychology on this forum the very people that have not or is not right now supporting Oceanlab are the ones defending him.Verses the once that complain are the ones that been and are currently supporting him because they are the ones out the money so have the biggest reason to complain because it's costing them something. And the ones that are white knights act like they are the heroes to defend Oceanlab but have no stake it the game whatsoever.:cool::coffee:
And not a word about those who are just waiting to throw money at the screen. h_45P6yKcHk.jpg
 

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That's a pretty stupid take. Nobody is forcing supporters to give money to Ocean. They could have stopped at any point in time, could stop, then start again after progress is shown, whatever. If you want to support someone, and have a problem with doing it, then either complain on that platform, where it's appropriate, or get therapy to find out why you're either continuing to give money to someone you're angry with, or why you're angry about something you keep doing. Neither sounds particularly healthy.

People who "white knight" are not always defending Ocean, they're just sick of all the bitching and complaining. This forum is the main way many of us follow the progress of the game and find out about updates. Getting a notification and finding out that it's just bitching and whining all the time is really frustrating. It also serves no real purpose.
And how would you or others suppose to handle the bitching and whining and complaing by saying don't do it to grown men and women that have just as every right to come to this website and forum as you all do. Because all I hear is you all don't like to read what others have to say. So i say either block/ignore the said people so you don't have to read what they say and get into a dark place in life and get all bent out of shape because some words on a website upset you ,sounds kinda like lack of mental maturity to deal with people but we all are not at the same level in life i guess.:unsure:
 

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No, I am saying several things here, none of which are that.

1. Complain where complaining is appropriate: on Patreon or on Discord, where the person you're giving money to, and other people doing the same, will see and respond. Ocean IS NOT HERE. You're just whining here, and pissing people off that don't fucking care.

2. Patreon supporters are not buying anything. They're supporting artists or projects or whatever. You get privileges for doing it other than the delivered game. Nobody's holding a gun to your head to do it. Nobody is making you continue doing it. Do it or don't. There's no reason to complain or be angry. If you are, do it there. Stop screaming in our ears.

3. This is a pirate site. This is not a therapy session. Get therapy. This is for discussing the game. That doesn't mean complaining about the dev, it means talking about plot, mods, walkthroughs, gameplay advice, etc. If the rules say we can't post fan art, then why would Patreon bitching be allowed?
 

Massagecook01

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No, I am saying several things here, none of which are that.

1. Complain where complaining is appropriate: on Patreon or on Discord, where the person you're giving money to, and other people doing the same, will see and respond. Ocean IS NOT HERE. You're just whining here, and pissing people off that don't fucking care.

2. Patreon supporters are not buying anything. They're supporting artists or projects or whatever. You get privileges for doing it other than the delivered game. Nobody's holding a gun to your head to do it. Nobody is making you continue doing it. Do it or don't. There's no reason to complain or be angry. If you are, do it there. Stop screaming in our ears.

3. This is a pirate site. This is not a therapy session. Get therapy. This is for discussing the game. That doesn't mean complaining about the dev, it means talking about plot, mods, walkthroughs, gameplay advice, etc. If the rules say we can't post fan art, then why would Patreon bitching be allowed?
And again if people complaining, whining, bitching, moaning, growning are piss you off and screaming in your ears as you say then you know what you can do it might sound crazy but i'll say it IGNORE/BLOCK said people i'm sure they can give a fuck if you do, so do it. Because they have every right to praise said Developer or cry about the AVN as you do stop acting like you all have a right be be here are the others don't ,you aint special.
 

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And how would you or others suppose to handle the bitching and whining and complaing by saying don't do it to grown men and women that have just as every right to come to this website and forum as you all do. Because all I hear is you all don't like to read what others have to say. So i say either block/ignore the said people so you don't have to read what they say and get into a dark place in life and get all bent out of shape because some words on a website upset you ,sounds kinda like lack of mental maturity to deal with people but we all are not at the same level in life i guess.:unsure:
So, uhh, the game's getting an update in a week. I'm going to buy it on steam. I don't fit in to the caregories you describe as black and white.

Are you bored today? Everyone's just waiting for the steam release. And yes, Ocean's screwed that a bit, he should be announcing it loud and clear on steam so people don't spend all their money in the summer sale before WiaB gets released.

Anyway, soon I'll have twice as much WiaB as I had before. It'll be interesting to see how it's grown.
 

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So, uhh, the game's getting an update in a week. I'm going to buy it on steam. I don't fit in to the caregories you describe as black and white.

Are you bored today? Everyone's just waiting for the steam release. And yes, Ocean's screwed that a bit, he should be announcing it loud and clear on steam so people don't spend all their money in the summer sale before WiaB gets released.

Anyway, soon I'll have twice as much WiaB as I had before. It'll be interesting to see how it's grown.
I'll buy it on steam too and all the DLC's if they come out and also the DLC's on summers gone too just waiting is the game now but i'm cool with it.
 

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The man should finally put all his time and resources on wiab.
Sounds good. SG will fail, which will stop his primary source of income, which will lead to this one failing as well. Good job, you killed both projects. That's what you want, obviously.

I love WIAB more than SG but can't deny that SG is more popular and brings in more money. Money he needs for development. That's not even getting into his perfectionist standards, I'm talking strictly keeping the lights on, food on the table, taxes (heh), and other necessities. WIAB doesn't exist in its current state without SG.
 

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Sounds good. SG will fail, which will stop his primary source of income, which will lead to this one failing as well. Good job, you killed both projects. That's what you want, obviously.

I love WIAB more than SG but can't deny that SG is more popular and brings in more money. Money he needs for development. That's not even getting into his perfectionist standards, I'm talking strictly keeping the lights on, food on the table, taxes (heh), and other necessities. WIAB doesn't exist in its current state without SG.
Therefore the upcoming wiab update will be an indicator for its success (or not). I think SG is more popular because it has more content so far (if I'm not being wrong). I personally think that the massive wiab update can do wonders to its success. We'll see. And naturally my statement was just a little bit of exaggeration even if I really prefer wiab over SG by FAR.
 

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Sounds good. SG will fail, which will stop his primary source of income, which will lead to this one failing as well. Good job, you killed both projects. That's what you want, obviously.

I love WIAB more than SG but can't deny that SG is more popular and brings in more money. Money he needs for development. That's not even getting into his perfectionist standards, I'm talking strictly keeping the lights on, food on the table, taxes (heh), and other necessities. WIAB doesn't exist in its current state without SG.
College settings will always get more general audience attention than shady business families.
 

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Sounds good. SG will fail, which will stop his primary source of income, which will lead to this one failing as well. Good job, you killed both projects. That's what you want, obviously.

I love WIAB more than SG but can't deny that SG is more popular and brings in more money. Money he needs for development. That's not even getting into his perfectionist standards, I'm talking strictly keeping the lights on, food on the table, taxes (heh), and other necessities. WIAB doesn't exist in its current state without SG.
send him your bank card detail will help him a little bit lol Wiab are more enjoyable for me.
 
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