VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Crashbullet

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Candidates for parenthood and sudden death.
It's just that the redheads in the game are Benjamin and Dylan, but we know why Dylan can't be the father of anyone. Although what confused me and I still keep it in mind is that when William and Dylan talk about dating, Dylan talks about "losing two" of whatever.
 

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Candidates for parenthood and sudden death.
It's just that the redheads in the game are Benjamin and Dylan, but we know why Dylan can't be the father of anyone. Although what confused me and I still keep it in mind is that when William and Dylan talk about dating, Dylan talks about "losing two" of whatever.
I mean could be. We also have to take into account that the ginger gene is a recessive gene that can skip one or multiple generations as well. So technically Nami could still be the daughter of a non ginger that simply carries the gene.

If we can be certain about anything in Ocean's games is that there is no certainty because the dev prob doesn't know the answer either :ROFLMAO: Or his only answer was taken away by the incest police. This is why I am a devout supporter of deep script reworks for both damn games!
 

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I mean could be. We also have to take into account that the ginger gene is a recessive gene that can skip one or multiple generations as well. So technically Nami could still be the daughter of a non ginger that simply carries the gene.

If we can be certain about anything in Ocean's games is that there is no certainty because the dev prob doesn't know the answer either :ROFLMAO: Or his only answer was taken away by the incest police. This is why I am a devout supporter of deep script reworks for both damn games!
Sure, let's add another two years to the update cycle! We should just be grateful to get anything at all! :ROFLMAO:

I am not disagreeing with you, by the way, I do agree, but the situation is fucking hilarious.
 

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Sure, let's add another two years to the update cycle! We should just be grateful to get anything at all! :ROFLMAO:

I am not disagreeing with you, by the way, I do agree, but the situation is fucking hilarious.
No no no! I wouldn't touch the renders! I'm only advocating for changing the lines in the script. No extra scenes or renders needed. If he truly knows where the story is headed he would have no problem in sorting it all out in 2 or 3 weeks tops.

Problem is we all know where this is headed. He's gonna keep what he has so far intentionally vague and senseless and just gradually apply retroactive changes as he moves along :(
 

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I mean could be. We also have to take into account that the ginger gene is a recessive gene that can skip one or multiple generations as well. So technically Nami could still be the daughter of a non ginger that simply carries the gene.

If we can be certain about anything in Ocean's games is that there is no certainty because the dev prob doesn't know the answer either :ROFLMAO: Or his only answer was taken away by the incest police. This is why I am a devout supporter of deep script reworks for both damn games!
Well, I don't think the Ocean will immerse itself so much in the theory of genes, I still haven't moved away from the theory of one forum member about "Pheromones MC":HideThePain:
 

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Candidates for parenthood and sudden death.
It's just that the redheads in the game are Benjamin and Dylan, but we know why Dylan can't be the father of anyone. Although what confused me and I still keep it in mind is that when William and Dylan talk about dating, Dylan talks about "losing two" of whatever.
The Discord canon is that every beautiful character is a child of William and Helen.
 

Victoria Vix

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It's been mentioned many times over the last few pages...



Not sure what being employed has to do with opening up Steam and looking.
The employment means I don't have the time or patience to look it up. It's just a joke that's been going around, it's not that deep.

I do appreciate the help, though.
 

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I mean...would I say no? Of course not but time travel shenanigans would have to be involved.

There's a huge logistical predicament in your hypothesis. Try to keep up:

If Nami is Willi and Daphne's daughter then SG's MC would have to be Willi and possibly Leia's. Since in SG they claim both the MC's and Nami's parents are dead then Daphne, Willi and Leia would be dead making the threesome impossible.

During the book club scene with Katie however we have some snippets of conversation that seem to imply both Willi and Leia are still alive 20 years into the future. Same with Miru since Coach Dahl claims he wouldn't want to piss off Auya's mother. Because of the "why is she red" question not being followed up by an immediate explanation we know they have to be at least half siblings. They would have to share Willi as a father for Nami to be Daphne's.

Therefore we are left with an impossible hypothesis unless time travel is involved OR both SG's MC and Nami were lied to about their true parentage/their fate.
I don't think Nika is Leia's child, but Nami could be Daphne's daughter with Will, so yes, we could have a threesome between them with Nika being a wimp. And fuck incest.

Seriously now, I wouldn't believe the fact that their parents are dead, maybe the mother or father of one of them, Ocean didn't insert Nami into Nika's life so that in the end she would be a half-sister, from what I remember they said that Ayua is just an extra that we won't even steal a kiss from, so that makes it pretty obvious that she is Will's daughter just like Nika, could Ayua be Will's father's daughter? No, because she calls Katie aunt and not sister. But these are all theories, I would really like Ocean to release a book because it's easier for the world to end than for him to finish this whole arc of WiAB, SG, and the other game he's "planning".
 

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I don't think Nika is Leia's child, but Nami could be Daphne's daughter with Will, so yes, we could have a threesome between them with Nika being a wimp. And fuck incest.

Seriously now, I wouldn't believe the fact that their parents are dead, maybe the mother or father of one of them, Ocean didn't insert Nami into Nika's life so that in the end she would be a half-sister, from what I remember they said that Ayua is just an extra that we won't even steal a kiss from, so that makes it pretty obvious that she is Will's daughter just like Nika, could Ayua be Will's father's daughter? No, because she calls Katie aunt and not sister. But these are all theories, I would really like Ocean to release a book because it's easier for the world to end than for him to finish this whole arc of WiAB, SG, and the other game he's "planning".
This is exactly why it is important to keep your own biases and personal preferences out of a discussion such as this one. The fact that there are far more pieces of evidence, in and outside of the game, that Nami and the MC are related by blood than the fact that Auya is Miru and Willi's daughter ot that the MC is Willi or anyone else's son yet you refuse to believe it while buying the other 2 is very telling.

I's important to keep a grasp on reality. It's important to understand how a guardianship or adoption process works. For us and Ocean. He can't tell a grounded and real story and then add unicorns and aliens to it at a whim. Look at Noji. Single, can't be older than 45, has a fulltime job in a profession where people work LOOOOONG hours with decent pay. Where people usually take years of school and internships to complete. And somehow she was awarded the custody of 2 completely unrelated orphans before she was even 30 years old as a single adoptive mother with barely any time to raise kids.

Does none of this strike you as odd? Nami and the MC could be from different parts of the country, they could have lost different parents at different times yet they both landed "on the lap" of an unqualified and unprepared legal guardian with barely any money or time to raise them. Are you aware of a developed country that does not have Social Services and Child Protective Services? Do you think the governments just hand over orphan kids to anyone without months or years of extreme and careful selection?

Even more weird, there is a lady that suddenly comes to a book club and takes great interest in 2 unrelated orphans that landed on the lap of an unqualified person that this lady appears to know. Let's use our brains here. If you put together everything we know and add some common sense what do you get? 2 + 2 equals 4 not 5.

I don't know what the truth is or where this story is going but for the meantime I have to work with what we have.
 
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