VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[yossa999]

It seems like a sneak attack. This morning, in almost every thread I follow, there are a couple of guys asking "update when?"
If this isn't a flashmob, the only answer you can receive: "when it's ready."
Almost no developer (except for a few well-organized guys) can plan their releases in such a way that they can announce them several months in advance. So the question makes no sense. Sorry for the bitter truth.

 

[BadassDolphin]

When released next chapter

Tomorrow.

 

[sorco2003]

It seems like a sneak attack. This morning, in almost every thread I follow, there are a couple of guys asking "update when?"
If this isn't a flashmob, the only answer you can receive: "when it's ready."
Almost no developer (except for a few well-organized guys) can plan their releases in such a way that they can announce them several months in advance. So the question makes no sense. Sorry for the bitter truth.

I'm starting to see a pattern.... If you are on the thread, there is no up date, if I don't see you on the thread there is monthly, bi-monthly or quarterly up date.....

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Tomorrow.

 

[Miranha157]

I finished WIAB of the old testament, little content with Miru, more focus on Katie and Leia, interesting the branches of options it had, including Elena is a hottie, I understood Katie's scar at the beginning I thought Sasha was her daughter kkkkkk, anyway, I think that some things Ocean reused in both games after the rework.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I finished WIAB of the old testament, little content with Miru, more focus on Katie and Leia, interesting the branches of options it had, including Elena is a hottie, I understood Katie's scar at the beginning I thought Sasha was her daughter kkkkkk, anyway, I think that some things Ocean reused in both games after the rework.

Did you notice Elena's surname was Petrova (so Sasha's mum who is Elena Petrova in SG who owns the golf course and tennis club we have heard about already), and Donna's was Revera (presumably the mom of the Revera who is on the first team)? It's strange how a lot of people focus on the plot in the Zane household as being the important plot, but to some extent, the way two seeming enemies become a consortium that purchase a college seems most interesting to me. Both pre and reworked versions kept these details mysterious, so I think they're more important than who bangs who. And it's tied in with Helen's past.

Also notice the basketball theme with Katie, and Abigail wanting William to go undercover at the college prerework, while post rework Willi and Miru want to snoop around the college, and Willi's looking for work, in SG Jenna mentions he was coaching the team Katie was on, and Katie went to the same college as Kat...

These are the kind of connections that are good examples to show how Ocean is keeping some elements, changing others, but still broadly developing a similar story while keeping us second guessing him.

 

[Miranha157]

Did you notice Elena's surname was Petrova (so Sasha's mum who is Elena Petrova in SG who owns the golf course and tennis club we have heard about already), and Donna's was Revera (presumably the mom of the Revera who is on the first team)? It's strange how a lot of people focus on the plot in the Zane household as being the important plot, but to some extent, the way two seeming enemies become a consortium that purchase a college seems most interesting to me. Both pre and reworked versions kept these details mysterious, so I think they're more important than who bangs who. And it's tied in with Helen's past.

Also notice the basketball theme with Katie, and Abigail wanting William to go undercover at the college prerework, while post rework Willi and Miru want to snoop around the college, and Willi's looking for work, in SG Jenna mentions he was coaching the team Katie was on, and Katie went to the same college as Kat...

These are the kind of connections that are good examples to show how Ocean is keeping some elements, changing others, but still broadly developing a similar story while keeping us second guessing him.

I actually played for the first time in March 2024 and it was the rework WIAB, a friend recommended me at the time to wait for S1 to come out to play SG, so I waited for months and looked at the photos of the games and even on a website it showed the scar of both Kate and Sasha and I didn't know about the Petrova relationship that's why I mentioned in the "beginning I thought Sasha was a daughter" precisely because of the scar, after I played SG I realized they weren't kkkk. I played the Old Testament WIAB for the first time this week.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I actually played for the first time in March 2024 and it was the rework WIAB, a friend recommended me at the time to wait for S1 to come out to play SG, so I waited for months and looked at the photos of the games and even on a website it showed the scar of both Kate and Sasha and I didn't know about the Petrova relationship that's why I mentioned in the "beginning I thought Sasha was a daughter" precisely because of the scar, after I played SG I realized they weren't kkkk. I played the Old Testament WIAB for the first time this week.

Oh cool, I hope you picked up on some of those things though - such as if you get Donna pregnant in the old version does that imply she might have been intended as a LI once the game developed further? Does that have any implication for the new Donna? Is the new Donna still a Revera? We also see William playing basketball with Katie, we see Abigail ask him to be an undercover coach in the college, and we know in SG Jenna talks about William as a coach, does that mean we'll see Jenna in WiaB? And the uncle who taught Nika basketball? There's a lot of material worth uncovering and plenty of different paths that reveal different things, so it's at least a good way to pass time while waiting for the update because there's a lot of branching.

Even if it's no longer canon, it does suggest a few things to look out for once ch4 drops, areas to pay attention to.

 

[Miranha157]

Oh cool, I hope you picked up on some of those things though - such as if you get Donna pregnant in the old version does that imply she might have been intended as a LI once the game developed further? Does that have any implication for the new Donna? Is the new Donna still a Revera? We also see William playing basketball with Katie, we see Abigail ask him to be an undercover coach in the college, and we know in SG Jenna talks about William as a coach, does that mean we'll see Jenna in WiaB? And the uncle who taught Nika basketball? There's a lot of material worth uncovering and plenty of different paths that reveal different things, so it's at least a good way to pass time while waiting for the update because there's a lot of branching.

Even if it's no longer canon, it does suggest a few things to look out for once ch4 drops, areas to pay attention to.

Exactly, but in the old WIAB I didn't have sex with Donna, Katie got screwed with the ISTs. But I noticed that Katie and Leia's relationship is very different in the new WIAB, I noticed that at the beginning of the old one they called themselves "best friends" and in the middle it became "father, mother, sister and brother", I'm curious to know if Ocean will keep this relationship since he lost the patreon. In theory it wouldn't make sense for him to come back as "best friends"

I talked to a friend about Nika, I would say he's William or Leia's son but thinking about the patreon's policies, if it's true Ayua for example will be nothing more than a friend, and only Ocean knows how many daughters Will had so he's kind of preserving SG, in my head he cut the relationship between the Zanes or will only reveal it at the end of the game, I'm curious to know why Nojiko doesn't like Katie.

 

[Miranha157]

If it is considered that William and Leia are twins, for example, even if Nkka is Leia's son with someone else, he would still carry William's genes and it would make a lot of sense for him to be the "uncle" who taught him basketball, but in any case there would still be incest between cousins taking into account if he has something with Ayua or one of William's daughters.

It sucks that you like something and know so little about it, I don't like being in the dark, Ocean could have released a book kkkkk

 

[BobTheDuck]

Exactly, but in the old WIAB I didn't have sex with Donna, Katie got screwed with the ISTs. But I noticed that Katie and Leia's relationship is very different in the new WIAB, I noticed that at the beginning of the old one they called themselves "best friends" and in the middle it became "father, mother, sister and brother", I'm curious to know if Ocean will keep this relationship since he lost the patreon. In theory it wouldn't make sense for him to come back as "best friends"

I talked to a friend about Nikka, I would say he's William or Leia's son but thinking about the patreon's policies, if it's true Ayua for example will be nothing more than a friend, and only Ocean knows how many daughters Will had so he's kind of preserving SG, in my head he cut the relationship between the Zanes or will only reveal it at the end of the game, I'm curious to know why Nojiko doesn't like Katie.

Even though WiaB isn't on patreon eventually things like that will be problematic. SS won't avoid the same attitude in the end, it is simply a question of time. It's also a simple maths question - Ocean makes his living by selling stories, what happens if he can't sell them? Some devs do things in their spare time, but dev time is already slow enough. And Ocean has leases on gear, he's unlikely to risk those leases.

We might not see it in the next release, or we might, but in my mind the longer Ocean leaves that uncertainty around, the harder it will be to develop the games.

 

[mammonite]

where it all began , will begin in 2050.

 

[LHDLLB]

It sucks that you like something and know so little about it, I don't like being in the dark, Ocean could have released a book kkkkk

If he ever come to the conclusion that he will no longer continue development I would like to see a book version of the story, at least of the "canonical" one. Writing a book is a lot different than writing a AVN and maybe he will not be good at it, but is a decent enough compromise, at least the story will have some sort of closure.

Regarding the rest I think that Bob has spoken well enough and I agree with him, but this grounds are already worn out, we have been talking about the same thing since Ocean dropped the nuke and the only thing that is left to do is wait for the releases. And then have more months longer conversations about it. Not that I am complaining.

 

[Miranha157]

If he ever come to the conclusion that he will no longer continue development I would like to see a book version of the story, at least of the "canonical" one. Writing a book is a lot different than writing a AVN and maybe he will not be good at it, but is a decent enough compromise, at least the story will have some sort of closure.

Regarding the rest I think that Bob has spoken well enough and I agree with him, but this grounds are already worn out, we have been talking about the same thing since Ocean dropped the nuke and the only thing that is left to do is wait for the releases. And then have more months longer conversations about it. Not that I am complaining.

I am aware, but understand my side. I entered the Oceanverse in 2024 and not in 2018 kkkkkk, some here are in the same boat and since it is recent for me I would like to have some exchange of theories. If you already feel worn out I ask you to ignore it, don't take it the wrong way, it was just a comment.

 

[LHDLLB]

I am aware, but understand my side. I entered the Oceanverse in 2024 and not in 2018 kkkkkk, some here are in the same boat and since it is recent for me I would like to have some exchange of theories. If you already feel worn out I ask you to ignore it, don't take it the wrong way, it was just a comment.

Sorry if I came across as rude, did not intended to kill your vibe, just say that there is not much to be said. I am happy to engage with anyone who like the games, and exchange theories.

 

[c.mork]

WiAB Chapter 4 - Dev Log #21
Hello,

If you want to know the Workstation specs and "why I don't hire another artist", check the SG Dev log here: https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-15807653

It's a very long section.

So, the WiAB part.

I took it easy over the holiday's but did work through New Years Eve. I have a high focus on getting Chapter 4 out as soon as possible.

I needed a Logo, so I decided to try Fiverr for a while. Let's see what comes out of that. I already had to send one design back for revision because it looked like some drunk had drawn it.

I might actually have to find a talented graphic designer that specializes in logos, etc.

Besides that, I don't have much more to add. I will return to 110% and get things done.

Previews.



Protect the bibi.



I wish you a Happy New Years, lads!

• Ocean

 

[BobTheDuck]

...Helen looks human again!

 

[LHDLLB]

...Helen looks human again!

Yeah, she seems different than even the christmas treats. And I am not one to notice such things.

 

[sorco2003]

Transition log, Katie blurred and Katie behind William... a lot, but at the same time a little.
The logo is not a bad idea, although he already has a signature image with the leaf.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Transition log, Katie blurred and Katie behind William... a lot, but at the same time a little.
The logo is not a bad idea, although he already has a signature image with the leaf.

I'm assuming the same night with Helen and Kat talking on the deck, Katie straddling William with her phone, early evening with Helen in that outfit by the pool, and William in his blacks. The question is what is the end of the evening?