VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Khan@123]

Man i love helen I need some new content of helen i can't sleep

 

[Cabin Fever]

Ocean is probably vacationing somewhere..for the last 6 months not giving a damn about their subs and eventually we will see a abandoned tag on both games since Ocean must have made a fortune collecting those sub fees all this time without actually doing anything.

Here we go again with the "Ocean made a fortune..." conspira-idiocy...

People either have no idea what a fortune means these days (hint - even someone with a net worth of a million can't really be considered as having a "fortune" nowadays) or worse, living in mommy's basement and has no clue what the real cost of living is nowadays.

 

[dan_roger69]

Here we go again with the "Ocean made a fortune..." conspira-idiocy...

People either have no idea what a fortune means these days (hint - even someone with a net worth of a million can't really be considered as having a "fortune" nowadays) or worse, living in mommy's basement and has no clue what the real cost of living is nowadays.

Yep robrize2169

That's just from Steam. Even if he made just half of Steam revenue estimate give or take 70 - 80K after taxes it's not a fortune but a comfortable living plus leasing upgraded hardware.

From Patreon income he can afford all living expenses as well.

 

[robrize2169]

unless he lives in a war zone, there is zero excuses for how long these updates take with him making that kind of money off his games. Ocean..Milking his fans for years..wish i had a job where i could sit back, do nothing and make thousands of dollars a month..

 

[zoe_meat]

Here we go again with the "Ocean made a fortune..." conspira-idiocy...

People either have no idea what a fortune means these days (hint - even someone with a net worth of a million can't really be considered as having a "fortune" nowadays) or worse, living in mommy's basement and has no clue what the real cost of living is nowadays.

So, are you suggesting that one cannot live the rest of their life with a million dollars without ever having to work again?

 

[KrusherKev]

So, are you suggesting that one cannot live the rest of their life with a million dollars without ever having to work again?

No, probably not, depending on a person's age. Straight up house purchase / years of mortgage or rent / expenses such as transportation, utilities, property taxes, food, clothing, all add up and a block of one million dollars, at today's really low interest rates on savings, won't last forever....could put money in the market, but that's taking a chance with how the Donald has been f'ing with the markets latety.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Yep Cabin Fever
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That's just from Steam. Even if he made just half of Steam revenue estimate give or take 70 - 80K after taxes it's not a fortune but a comfortable living plus leasing upgraded hardware.

From Patreon income he can afford all living expenses as well.
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Right, it's a decent and comfortable living, but nowhere close to a fortune.

 

[Cabin Fever]

So, are you suggesting that one cannot live the rest of their life with a million dollars without ever having to work again?

Depends on how old you are.

If you are 55, and mortgage/rent free with no kids to support, sure you can, as long as you are not a big spender.

If you are 55, and mortgage/rent free with no kids to support, but lives an extravagant lifestyle, then no you can't.

If you are 35 with a mortgage/rent and kids to support, no you cannot. Not even close.

Folks, welcome to reality in the 21st Century western world.

 

[Mortarion]

So, are you suggesting that one cannot live the rest of their life with a million dollars without ever having to work again?

Not even close in a western land. Ocean is 28, that's a lot time to kill until kicking be bucket. And then we are not talking about getting married, become a parent, spending money on health care and education.

 

[lalka]

unless he lives in a war zone, there is zero excuses for how long these updates take with him making that kind of money off his games. Ocean..Milking his fans for years..wish i had a job where i could sit back, do nothing and make thousands of dollars a month..

Delusional. If you wanna see actual milking go see Summertime Saga. Oceean is working on 2 games and outputs very decent sized updates.

So, are you suggesting that one cannot live the rest of their life with a million dollars without ever having to work again?

lol

 

[faramata]

No, probably not, depending on a person's age. Straight up house purchase / years of mortgage or rent / expenses such as transportation, utilities, property taxes, food, clothing, all add up and a block of one million dollars, at today's really low interest rates on savings, won't last forever....could put money in the market, but that's taking a chance with how the Donald has been f'ing with the markets latety.

If you earn 6 percent on 1 million dollars, that's 60,000 a year. You can't live on that? And if you're really that strapped, you can always go back to work. 60,000 a year would be pretty good even in the US, I'd say. In Eastern Europe or South America you'd be the damn Kingpin with that kind of money.

 

[Mortarion]

Yep Cabin Fever
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That's just from Steam. Even if he made just half of Steam revenue estimate give or take 70 - 80K after taxes it's not a fortune but a comfortable living plus leasing upgraded hardware.

From Patreon income he can afford all living expenses as well.
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Your guess is close to bullseye, our greedy, incompetent, fucking warmongering asshole gov fucks almost every little self employed in the ass without lube.

A quick and dirty calculation from me came to ~73k under the line for Ocean. Well

My salary is roughly at 37k/year.
Congratulations...
Roughly two times of my annually income - one time(!)
And four this alms a six day week, with a >= 11h work days?

Well, no thanks. I would never take this deal. I stay at my 39H week, with flexible working times.

 

[KrusherKev]

If you earn 6 percent on 1 million dollars, that's 60,000 a year. You can't live on that? And if you're really that strapped, you can always go back to work. 60,000 a year would be pretty good even in the US, I'd say. In Eastern Europe or South America you'd be the damn Kingpin with that kind of money.

Props for knowing the math, I'll agree with you on that 60K per year....but what about the income taxes on the $60K, that eats probably 12 to 15 right there of the 60, plus, IF someone was sitting on a million dollars, don't you think one of the first purchases would be buy a house / pay off their house, so after that cost, they would have way less than a million in the bank for the interest to be earned on. Also, higher interest rates on savings normally also means that country might be experiencing inflation, where things cost more period over period, so the amount the person has to live on buys less each year.

 

[TheDuke9999]

I WANT THE FUCKING UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Radon-]

Props for knowing the math, I'll agree with you on that 60K per year....but what about the income taxes on the $60K, that eats probably 12 to 15 right there of the 60, plus, IF someone was sitting on a million dollars, don't you think one of the first purchases would be buy a house / pay off their house, so after that cost, they would have way less than a million in the bank for the interest to be earned on. Also, higher interest rates on savings normally also means that country might be experiencing inflation, where things cost more period over period, so the amount the person has to live on buys less each year.

Exactly, and I'd love to get on that guaranteed 6% interest for the next 60 years, like what even.

 

[Mortarion]

If you earn 6 percent on 1 million dollars, that's 60,000 a year. You can't live on that? And if you're really that strapped, you can always go back to work. 60,000 a year would be pretty good even in the US, I'd say. In Eastern Europe or South America you'd be the damn Kingpin with that kind of money.

As you have said, IF, that's the magic word. In no place on the financial markets will you get this amount of return your a lousy million. And if you get offered something like this, it will be high risk/volatile or a fucking scam. The rest was greatly pointed out from KrusherKev.

Props for knowing the math, I'll agree with you on that 60K per year....but what about the income taxes on the $60K, that eats probably 12 to 15 right there of the 60, plus, IF someone was sitting on a million dollars, don't you think one of the first purchases would be buy a house / pay off their house, so after that cost, they would have way less than a million in the bank for the interest to be earned on. Also, higher interest rates on savings normally also means that country might be experiencing inflation, where things cost more period over period, so the amount the person has to live on buys less each year.

 

[minibaer12]

I know you are very anxious but for now......... until the update drops.................
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[TheDuke9999]

I know you are very anxious but for now......... until the update drops.................
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that calms my heart thank you.. i love that woman above all else

 

[dan_roger69]

I know you are very anxious but for now......... until the update drops.................
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Can anyone create a game signature of Helen, this gif in the post. Thanks

 

[Cabin Fever]

If you earn 6 percent on 1 million dollars, that's 60,000 a year. You can't live on that?

Someone with a net worth of $1000000 likely has 50-75% of that tied down in their house, so no, they won't earn that $60k per year.

But let's disregard that critical point for a minute. Because the $60k is income, tax takes a big chunk out of it. If they rent instead of own so that the entire $1000000 is cash flow, then they have to pay rent. Once you add rent on top of tax, half, if not more, of that $60k is gone in just 2 basic expense items. And that's before food, let alone utilities, phone bills, etc. Now tell me, how comfortable a life is it to live on $30k a year to cover all that? All this doesn't even account for inflation, which makes all those dollar figures worth less and less every single year.

If they have free cashflow of $1000000, then their net worth is likely double that if not more.

And if you're really that strapped, you can always go back to work. 60,000 a year would be pretty good even in the US, I'd say. In Eastern Europe or South America you'd be the damn Kingpin with that kind of money.

If they have to go back to work, then they are not retired, which defeats the entire premise of "retiring on $1000000 for the rest of their life".

60,000 a year would be pretty good even in the US, I'd say.

As already debunked, no, not even close to decent, let alone pretty good.

In Eastern Europe or South America you'd be the damn Kingpin with that kind of money.

The entire discussion is about whether Ocean is living the good life in Germany with his earnings from the games. Last I check, Germany isn't Eastern Europe or South America. So unless Ocean is moving there, your last point entirely irrelevant.