VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Crowangel

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rolling back the scenes seems to be removed too.. ie reversing what you have just seen if you missed a line of dialogue or made a wrong choice.. bought the steam version but also this version ready for the walkthrough mod so i dont miss stuff this time through
 

ianzaracod

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I'm not sure if a patch would help. Quickly flipping through chapter four without really getting into the plot I came across this:
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Holy hell, so William isn't even a Zane anymore, i'm not a fan of incest but ngl, when Leia and William were still a Zane, i feel like it was more prominent and relevant, especially when you play Summer's Gone. I don't have a backing statement why I said that, but it felt right. with Miru having different names, I wonder if she even used "Nojiko" xD Ok im reaching at this point. Well, at least I won't feel weird "romancing" Leia and Katie now if William ain't a Zane

seems like a full restart is needed? Or is that my saves being the problem
Yes, I am playing now with no patch at all, you will have to restart, i am guessing there are a lot of changes in the dialogue. The example of Miru talking about Leia is also that.
 
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If you had the patch, you need to restart. Even reapplying the patch to the new version shit the bed.
Holy hell, so William isn't even a Zane anymore, i'm not a fan of incest but ngl, when Leia and William were still a Zane, i feel like it was more prominent and relevant, especially when you play Summer's Gone. I don't have a backing statement why I said that, but it felt right. with Miru having different names, I wonder if she even used "Nojiko" xD Ok im reaching at this point.


Yes, I am playing now with no patch at all, you will have to restart, i am guessing there are a lot of changes in the dialogue. The example of Miru talking about Leia is also that.
Thanks for your replies, with the reworked relationships I guess a restart was necessary anyway
 
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ianzaracod

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rolling back the scenes seems to be removed too.. ie reversing what you have just seen if you missed a line of dialogue or made a wrong choice.. bought the steam version but also this version ready for the walkthrough mod so i dont miss stuff this time through
which walkthrough mod are you using? Joker's and Scrappy's aint updated yet.
 

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I'm not sure if a patch would help. Quickly flipping through chapter four without really getting into the plot I came across this:
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This shit jumped the shark so hard :ROFLMAO: We need Ethan Hunt!

And these guys changed their last names to Zane :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

That whole scene was a hilarious mess
 

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Holy hell, so William isn't even a Zane anymore, i'm not a fan of incest but ngl, when Leia and William were still a Zane, i feel like it was more prominent and relevant, especially when you play Summer's Gone. I don't have a backing statement why I said that, but it felt right. with Miru having different names, I wonder if she even used "Nojiko" xD Ok im reaching at this point. Well, at least I won't feel weird "romancing" Leia and Katie now if William ain't a Zane


Yes, I am playing now with no patch at all, you will have to restart, i am guessing there are a lot of changes in the dialogue. The example of Miru talking about Leia is also that.
:mad:Oh that's just SAD!:mad:
 

ianzaracod

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This shit jumped the shark so hard :ROFLMAO: We need Ethan Hunt!

And these guys changed their last names to Zane :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

That whole scene was a hilarious mess
I haven't read his logs consistently, so I don't know why Ocean made this change, honestly I wanna know.
Seems like a pretty big deal to have William as a Zane, then suddenly give him no connections like Nika
 

denadm

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Instead of making content for his novels, the author, like others like him, makes wallpapers in 2k-4k (who the fuck needs them). Of course, the time it takes to create stories increases, and the author needs to somehow justify the subscribers' costs for his fap content
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RNasc4444

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I haven't read his logs consistently, so I don't know why Ocean made this change, honestly I wanna know.
Seems like a pretty big deal to have William as a Zane, then suddenly give him no connections like Nika
Incest is the reason. He heavily sanitized both games to make them more mainstream. No publishing platform loves incest so he had to do away with it all.

From what I've seen (which is not a lot) this looks like Sharknado levels of stupid. Dude is combining Mafia storylines with 16 and 17th century notions of arranged marriages and shit. It's bonkers butkinda hilarious at the same time :LOL:
 

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As a staunch defender of Ocean, I just can't get passed this retcon.

He has basically shifted the entire narrative of the entire Oceanverse, changing names which have been established in both WiaB and SG. I will not be surprised if he will have to go back and rework the reworked SG to align the now altered relations.

Imagine constructing half a house, then deciding you need to change the foundation from cement to play-doh...
 
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Already bought the second masterpiece from the author. 5 bucks you do not feel sorry for such a cool and atmospheric and story game with very beautiful characters, which the author makes and tries very hard to add his love to his game, I recommend buying it to all fans of this game!
 
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