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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Oasis951

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New to this thread. Why is everyone hating? Haven't played the new update but have been following his progress on Reddit. Feel free to spoil me
 

Crashbullet

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Well, I'll never buy any Ocean games in future. It's a never ending loop of reworks and changing story lines.
I made a refund in steam, God knows I've been waiting for this game for almost a year and didn't expect such "twists" of the plot. This does not concern SG, at the moment, although the hand of the "master" has also worked there, there was a complete story, it became a pruning for children 16+
 

jadepaladin

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New to this thread. Why is everyone hating? Haven't played the new update but have been following his progress on Reddit. Feel free to spoil me
Multiple reworks. Long development time. Most recent changes removed the incest (though there's some inconsistencies which will probably get removed in later patches). It doesn't matter if you're in the incest crowd or not, the way the story changed due to its removal makes it sound much less competent than it already was.

Will leaving home over Leia made sense when they were related. He's in a relationship with his "sister." It loses credibility when Leia and Will stop being related because Will left over a person he's not even related to.
 

Badboy8151

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Hey guys need some help
I tried playing WIA In joiplay but the game is not opening I tried man older and, new version but still the same problem someone know hot to fix this
 

Eleanorduval

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Multiple reworks. Long development time. Most recent changes removed the incest (though there's some inconsistencies which will probably get removed in later patches). It doesn't matter if you're in the incest crowd or not, the way the story changed due to its removal makes it sound much less competent than it already was.

Will leaving home over Leia made sense when they were related. He's in a relationship with his "sister." It loses credibility when Leia and Will stop being related because Will left over a person he's not even related to.
The game is supposed to be based on incest,remove it don't make any sense and change the plot.Any reason for his decision?
 

StingerWolf

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Wohooo, this went downhill fast. This currently is on the level of a Mexican telenovela, but with even worst writing. He will feel the backlash hard. I was once his patron for his other game, it was the only game I have supported and the last one. I feel really sorry for those, who pay for this cheap drama. His writing was never top-notch, in this one reached a new low. Renders are still good, but that's it, it is now on the level of those engrish games done by milking Russian devs with great renders but shite content.
 

Crashbullet

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The game is supposed to be based on incest,remove it don't make any sense and change the plot.Any reason for his decision?
The reason is that he was removed from patreon, he will not return there from the wiab, and now he is worried that SS is also pursuing such a policy, and he will lose money there. He probably didn't take into account how much money he would lose from the fans who left.
 
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xorihe3734

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I get wanting to sell your game everywhere you can, so censoring the game to do so would be necessary. But changing things that you've already written and which people have become invested in to the extent that no one can easily undo the censorship that is forced on you just doesn't make sense. It would be one thing to write things in an attempt to make patches difficult if the incest wasn't your original intent, but to actively try to prevent people from restoring what was your original intent is asinine.

I'm upset that Ocean wasted my time and I became invested in characters and relationships that I no longer have any interest in, but since I never spent a dime on it, they don't owe me anything. That doesn't change the fact that this move is pure greed and a slap in the face to those that have financially supported them for years. But I guess it will be worth it for them. They'll eventually make more money in the long run AND they get to complain even more about all that increase in funds being taxed and stolen from them. It's a win-win for them.
 

Maviarab

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I wouldn't publish a game on Steam with controversial themes like incest. If they remove you once you are done for good.
Steam didn't remove anything and neither does it have an issue with incest.

Patreon removed him..and 'future proofing' means absolutely no related content that would appear in the cash cow that is SG. That is what he is protecting, along with SubStar also taking Patreons stance of late.
 

Eleanorduval

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I wouldn't publish a game on Steam with controversial themes like incest. If they remove you once you are done for good.
from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.
 

Éama

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from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.
I'm only on the sidelines but I have observed how Steam treats developers and believe me, they don't give a shit. If they want incest gone tomorrow it has to be gone the day after or you get removed without a second chance. Nobody in their right mind should publish there with controversial stuff. It's suicide.
 

jadepaladin

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from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.
Steam isn't the issue, subscribestar is. There's information about incest in their TOS. Ocean is concerned they will turn out to be another Patreon.
 
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